For those who agree with the verdict...help me understand.

[Smelly Squirrel]

Yes, I'm quite familiar with the many things RK has said. In November he had to read the meters at the school (end of Suburban Drive). You have to drive past the swamp to get there. He said he didn't stop.

You mean you know he should have stopped, because.....? And this proves, what exactly.....?

 

[beccalecca1]

You mean you know he should have stopped, because.....? And this proves, what exactly.....?

That was an answer to my post about why RK was out there in November, because he had to read the meters at the school and didn't stop.

 

[kelian36]

You mean you know he should have stopped, because.....? And this proves, what exactly.....?

Did you watch and LISTEN to the trial? (WS has transcriptions here if you missed it. )
Kronk's driving to the school and driving by the swamp are in the trial transcripts.

 

[Hot Dogs]

Stand by...

I made a mistake. It's not in the ME report. I read it in some other report. I think it was the technician who cut the hair to detach the tape. It was stated that tape was adhered to hair and a portion of the mandible (jaw).

 

[Hot Dogs]

You mean you know he should have stopped, because.....? And this proves, what exactly.....?

Non sequitur.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Did you watch and LISTEN to the trial? (WS has transcriptions here if you missed it. )
Kronk's driving to the school and driving by the swamp are in the trial transcripts.

I'm not questioning whether he said it. My question is, if he did, what does it prove exactly about anything important?

 

[Hot Dogs]

I think you are wrong. Think about it. How could tape be stuck to the bone? It was never applied to bone...flesh and hair only.

No. I distinctly remember it. I've even mentioned it in other posts. A small portion of the tape was adhered to jaw bone. The person who detached it noted that.

 

[thedeviledadvocate]

No. I distinctly remember it. I've even mentioned it in other posts. A small portion of the tape was adhered to jaw bone. The person who detached it noted that.

I don't remember where I read it in the discovery either, but I did read it. It said that the tape was very weathered, but was adhered to a hair matt, and some of the tape fragments were adhered to the mandible by the plant growth and debris. Or something like that LOL

 

[Hot Dogs]

I'll probably never find it again, lol. I'll try tomorrow using Google. The doc dumps are too massive.

 

[grandmaj]

The remaining residue on the left side cannot be accounted-for by laying on the side in the trunk. That would have been very early decomposition when the brain mass still fills the skull cavity. The bit of clinging residue deposition only happens when there is nothing left inside the brain case other than a bit of "dust".

If indeed it was brain dust which we don't know because it wasn't tested by Spitz, and was considered organic by the State experts, having a head lying on its side while the brain was melting away in the trunk of the car it could have left the staining. The body in 170-180 degree heat would have liquified very quickly within a couple of days.

That could have left the staining from the brain puddling there, which then dried up to brain dust. Again we do not know if indeed it was brain dust or not.

 

[beccalecca1]

No. I distinctly remember it. I've even mentioned it in other posts. A small portion of the tape was adhered to jaw bone. The person who detached it noted that.

http://www.autopsyfiles.org/reports/Other/anthony, caylee_report.pdf

does any of this refresh your memory? I skimmed it but didn't see anything besides the tape was attached to the hair mat.

 

[beccalecca1]

I'll probably never find it again, lol. I'll try tomorrow using Google. The doc dumps are too massive.

#CaseyAnthony Clearest image yet showing how tape is adhering to jaw. Whiteness of remaining teeth is striking.by bobkealing via twitter at 2:38 PM

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[gngr~snap]

I'll probably never find it again, lol. I'll try tomorrow using Google. The doc dumps are too massive.

no worries! I believe ya Dr G did day there were still some patches of adipocere. Even hair can bond to the skull. I was just making sure the tape wasn't adhered to the skull. That would be funny business.

Well since it was the way I see it reported, and I do not even think drowning was a possibility because I do not believe Caylee saw the sun come up the 16th ...
A-no way Caylee drowned 6/16
B- ICA is lazy she'd use the duct tape OR
drown her IN the house where no one could see her.
C- Drowning victims leach fluid like crazy the
tape would NEVER have stuck and probably not in the wet/moist hair
D- no way GA helped dispose of her body he manner in which Caylee was disposed of points to a woman.
Not a cop. x-cop

AND if GA hadn't lied and placed Caylee in the home the morning of 6/16
he might not have been in the jurors hot seat.

I could lose my doubt and disagree with the jurors decision
fairly easily,but I'm missing a piece.
Or it's there and knotted up like a necklace!:waitasec:
I can't get past 11:30pm on 6/15!

 

[gngr~snap]

(CBS/WKMG/AP) ORLANDO, Fla. -Dr. Utz testified that...In the photos, tape could be seen sitting on the nose and mouth area of the skull. Utz said the tape was "lightly adhered" to the jaw bone, reports the station.:woohoo:

 

[beccalecca1]

I found this and can infer the tape was attached somewhere to the skull if I compare the tape fibers to the debris fibers found on the skull. Is this what you were referring to?



http://www.rosespeaks.com/wp-conten...-skull-and-tape-found-with-Caylee-remains.pdf

 

[Phoebeb]

What happened at 11:30 pm on the 15th? Or do you mean you don't think Caylee was alive after that?

 

[cluciano63]

Kind of OT, but was watching "Dateline" tonight about the Venus Stewart murder case and at the end of the trial, when her ex was convicted, the prosecutors hugged her family...and it just made me realize that in this case, with either ending, the prosecutors really did not have any family on their side for any verdict. I don't think I have ever seen a case where family members weren't right there with the prosecution to celebrate or grieve together at the end.

 

[beccalecca1]

Kind of OT here, I'm reading GA deposition, and when he's trying to fill in the blanks with too many details, I can't help but think it's just a bad episode of Leave it to Beaver. He acted like this on the stand too, KC says something along the lines of, "Well Dad, I think such and such would be great!" and they go off skipping down the street.

But, as soon as you start asking him some hard questions (the gas can questions JB brought up during trial), he gets real upset. He starts accusing you of trying to confuse him, etc. Listening to him and JB during trial is almost an exact replica of him and JA. Crazy, don't you think?

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

No. I distinctly remember it. I've even mentioned it in other posts. A small portion of the tape was adhered to jaw bone. The person who detached it noted that.

I don't remember where I read it in the discovery either, but I did read it. It said that the tape was very weathered, but was adhered to a hair matt, and some of the tape fragments were adhered to the mandible by the plant growth and debris. Or something like that LOL

I haven't seen it in a document, but Utz did testify to it.


In Session - Thursday, Jun 09, 2011 - Livedash TV Transcript

05:17:48 And -- here what we are doing is we areifting the tape to show how the fabric backing of the tape is actually partially attached to that lower mandible.
05:18:03 And also -- >> let me stop you.
05:18:05 Let me have this magnified.
05:18:08 If you can magnify this.
05:18:17 All right.
05:18:19 That may be easier for you.
05:18:20 Go ahead.
05:18:21 >> You can see the little strands of the fabric which is coming from the tape.
05:18:29 And it is sticking into the mandible and then over on the left side of the picture, will is a little bit of hair that's also still adherent to the tape.
05:18:39 >> By the strands, do you mean -- sort of being next to this.
05:18:44 >> Over here.
05:18:50 >> Sometimes this thing has a mind of its own.
05:18:55 Is there another one?
05:18:57 >> The fabric?
05:18:58 >> Yes.
05:18:58 >> Well, all of this is dash all of this.
05:19:01 >> Okay.
05:19:02 >> Fabric.
05:19:03 All of that.
05:19:05 >> So -- some of this is actually adhering to the bone of the mandible?
05:19:12 >> It is lightly adhered.
05:19:14 There are also -- mixed in with this are planted roots.
05:19:21 Which you can see here.
05:19:24 And -- here.

 

[beccalecca1]

I haven't seen it in a document, but Utz did testify to it.


In Session - Thursday, Jun 09, 2011 - Livedash TV Transcript

Now, how would tape fibers be adhered to the actual bone if the tape was over the skin that was decomposing?