Rehashing, debating and discussing the evidence

[coco puff]

Which reminds me, who was that Federal Judge that said there was plenty of evidene to convict her? Do you recall?

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[thedeviledadvocate]

I agree with you on this bolded point. But Baez didn't stop insisting that Caylee was missing until the remains were identified. His client also sat in jail for three years and then 6 weeks prior to trial the "accident" was born. Does this make any sense to you?

I don't recall exactly when JB started promising us we would all understand when he gave his OS. I know it was after Caylee's remains were found, and I think it was after the dt was not allowed to pursue RK as a SODDI defense. Whenever he first started saying we would all understand, is when I think they had decided to go with the drowning theory.

 

[bayouland]

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That is exactly where I read that.....your tagline! Thaks so much!!!

 

[bayouland]

A quick post. I just want to thank Nat and Logicalgirl for helping me see the truth today.
Smooch. I am off to the sidebar!!!

 

[thedeviledadvocate]

sure - when he was speaking on the spanish network after the trial and on many occasions afterwards. He is quick to say the words "theories" when speaking about his OS.

When CA said on Dr. P that she was called to JB's office and asked to come alone, what did JB want to talk to CA alone about?
I thought this was when she first found out about the abuse theory was going to be used?

 

[bayouland]

When CA said on Dr. P that she was called to JB's office and asked to come alone, what did JB want to talk to CA alone about?
I thought this was when she first found out about the abuse theory was going to be used?

CA said on Dr. Phil that FCA wanted her to know how Caylee died.

 

[LambChop]

sure - when he was speaking on the spanish network after the trial and on many occasions afterwards. He is quick to say the words "theories" when speaking about his OS.

He was also very careful in his wording to the jury and said "could have" in lieu she did. Something the jury did not pick up. With the statics making it very common for woman to have suffered sexual abuse or molestation in her lifetime what are the odds at least some of those women could relate to what JB was saying. That means they never got past the OS. Already had their minds made up. The problem with that is this was about KC being victumized this is about her child who died while in her mother's care...nothing else should have taken their focus off of that, nothing. jmo

 

[Harmony 2]

I don't recall exactly when JB started promising us we would all understand when he gave his OS. I know it was after Caylee's remains were found, and I think it was after the dt was not allowed to pursue RK as a SODDI defense. Whenever he first started saying we would all understand, is when I think they had decided to go with the drowning theory.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/27184822/ns/today-today_people


updated 10/15/2008 10:57:03 AM ET

"I sincerely believe that when we have finally spoken, everyone, and I mean everyone, will sit back and say, 'Now, I understand. That explains it,'" Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, said Tuesday as he stood next to his client before the indictment was issued.

On 12/10/2008 the DT was still going with the kidnapping theory.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18243300/detail.html

Baez wants access to the tapes because "in spite of the first-degree murder charges faced by Ms. Anthony, this is still a missing person's case."

"The inability to act could hinder the prompt and safe recovery of Caylee Marie Anthony," Baez wrote.

The only thing I learned is that in a court of law it isn't the truth, the whole truth, and only the truth presented (IMO)... I voted guilty BARD on all 7 counts.

 

[pcrum12]

That would have been the letters, I think, from the jailhouse which proved nothing because KC claims she thinks something happened not that it did. If it were that important JB would have put KC on the stand. He tried to get the letters to speak for her then she was sitting right there. SA had a right to object. It also had nothing to do with Caylee's death.

Had the judge allowed the letters it would have forced the State to bring in Robyn to testify about what brought up the response to her from KC about the suspected abuse as KC was clearly responding to something Robyn had told her. Not sure DT wanted that to happen.

Not sure, too, why DT went after GA because it looks as if KC may have told her parents LA was the father and that is why everyone was avoiding him before Caylee was born. I believe that was what upset him because he may not have known that until right before the trial. From the trial testimony it is clear LA was a potential target, too. My guess is KC had little use for GA and he became the victum.

KC is very, very dangerous because there are people out there who are willing to do anything to prove she did nothing wrong when it appears she has done nothing right. She destroys people lives and could care less. She will be your friend until you have outlived your usefulness and then slam you to the ground with her vindictive ways. She is trouble and I doubt she can change. So good luck with that folks. jmo

I hadn't even thought of those letters. I was actually speaking of testimony from JG and AL. They were proffered about abuse statements Casey made to them and the judge didn't allow the testimony in front of the jury. I think you may be right about LA and being accused of being Caylee's father. Never thought of that. :rocker:

 

[pcrum12]

What kind of evidence? If there was sexual abuse then two people knew about it first hand. GA and FCA. Anything else would be heresay. The Judge didn't allow it in because it was bogus.

I agree. I was just pointing out that the DT did try to get such statements that Casey made to boyfriends in front of the jury.

 

[thedeviledadvocate]

CA said on Dr. Phil that FCA wanted her to know how Caylee died.

Thanks,

 

[SecretaryGal]

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Yes.....and a guy RK's age must pee 40 times a day. Most men that age or older are on Flomax. lol

 

[logicalgirl]

I hadn't even thought of those letters. I was actually speaking of testimony from JG and AL. They were proffered about abuse statements Casey made to them and the judge didn't allow the testimony in front of the jury. I think you may be right about LA and being accused of being Caylee's father. Never thought of that. :rocker:

Couldn't testify - heresay...worthless

 

[okiedokietoo]

Not trying to stir this but the dt did try to present evidence to back the sexual abuse but the state objected and the judge sustained even after proffers. Therefore, some testimony was not allowed. fwiw.

It wasn't allowed because it was hearsay: unverified, unofficial information gained or acquired from another and not part of one's direct knowledge - this information could only come out of fca's mouth

 

[LambChop]

I agree. I was just pointing out that the DT did try to get such statements that Casey made to boyfriends in front of the jury.

The statement she made to JG was about LA, not GA. I don't think the judge thought the information JG was told by KC was specific enough and, again, KC was right there. There was no need to guess about what she meant, KC was there to testify herself if she chose to. So that may be why it was not allowed. The jury needed to hear it from KC, not RG or TL. jmo

 

[LambChop]

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I know. Isn't it awful. Another view of RK's personal life out there in the open for everyone to read. lol jmo

 

[logicalgirl]

The statement she made to JG was about LA, not GA. I don't think the judge thought the information JG was told by KC was specific enough and, again, KC was right there. There was no need to guess about what she meant, KC was there to testify herself if she chose to. So that may be why it was not allowed. The jury needed to hear it from KC, not RG or TL. jmo

The sexual abuse thing is always an endearing trait some women use to bring out the protectiveness in their men - it also helps to isolate those individuals the women feel most will bust their storytelling wide open. And those two people who were "on" to her were LA and GA. Not an event manager, not a graduate from Valencia, not employed at the movie studio, didn't have a nanny, etc. etc....dangerous folks to someone who invents a new set of accomplishments as she moves from friend to friend....
Sexual abuse is a "cut them off at the pass" kind of tool to a liar...

 

[belle3]

The statement she made to JG was about LA, not GA. I don't think the judge thought the information JG was told by KC was specific enough and, again, KC was right there. There was no need to guess about what she meant, KC was there to testify herself if she chose to. So that may be why it was not allowed. The jury needed to hear it from KC, not RG or TL. jmo

Another thing.....didnt the DT have the opportunity to grill GA about the abuse while he was on the stand. I seem to remember them glossing over it as well as the claims they made about GA in the OS. Or am I not remembering that correctly?

 

[Intermezzo]

I don't recall exactly when JB started promising us we would all understand when he gave his OS. I know it was after Caylee's remains were found, and I think it was after the dt was not allowed to pursue RK as a SODDI defense. Whenever he first started saying we would all understand, is when I think they had decided to go with the drowning theory.

IIRC, Baez made that "aha, now we will get it" statement in sept or october 2008...well before Caylee's skeletal remains were found.

 

[Intermezzo]

Mrs. Holmes, what are you saying? Did you read the autopsy report? It was stated in there at least twice that the tape was placed prior to decomposition.

By the way..I have been reading and lurking here for months, but my obsession with this case has finally brought me out of the woodwork. I think you guys are FABULOUS -- especially you lambchop and logic girl! Thanks to all of you!

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