GUILTY France - Explosions and shooting in Paris, including Bataclan concert hall, 13 Nov 2015 *arrest* #4

[Montjoy]

All anything needs to be is suspicious looking and a plane is grounded. It doesn't have to look like a bomb, all it has to look like is something someone deems "suspicious." Tape, paper, cardboard and watches are all now suspect.

JMO

I was able to get onto a flight with my VHS copy of Andrew "Dice" Clay's "The Adventures of Ford Fairlane". If that's not a bomb, I don't know what is.

 

[bluesneakers]

Why young people become jihadists, according to a top expert
And 8 other things to know about why Americans become terrorists

Some scholars argue nations must take a rigorous approach to understanding how people become radicalized — and, just as importantly, that religion itself is not the main motivation.

A substantial number of radical Islamic terrorists are recent converts who know surprisingly little about Islam, Olivier Roy, a professor at the European University Institute in Italy and well-known analyst of Islamist terrorism, said in a recent lecture, where he attempted to lay out "a scientific perspective on the causes/circumstances" of people joining radical groups.

"Radicalisation is a youth revolt against society, articulated on an Islamic religious narrative of jihad," he says. "It is not the uprising of a Muslim community victim of poverty and racism: only young people join, including converts who did not share the 'sufferings' of Muslims in Europe. These rebels without a cause find in jihad a 'noble' and global cause, and are consequently instrumentalised by a radical organisation (Al Qaeda, ISIS), that has a strategic agenda."

 

[cuffem]

http://news.yahoo.com/belgium-detains-1-person-part-paris-attacks-probe-204639947.html
Belgium detains one person in Paris attack probe.

 

[Elley Mae]

It worked great for "clockboy' and his family. He is suing the school district and the city for 15 million bucks, he was invited to the White House, and received a full scholarship in Yemen and brought his entire family. Just for making a school project that resembled a bomb.

You got it. Thanks.

 

[Elley Mae]

It's my opinion that it was a test run, but who knows. Ask James Woods about test runs. http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=102372

 

[cuffem]

http://news.yahoo.com/brussels-police-raid-home-arrest-paris-attacks-probe-200959907.html

 

[wendiesan]

Why young people become jihadists, according to a top expert
And 8 other things to know about why Americans become terrorists

Just jumping off of your post, blues, to an article from The Times of Israel regarding the conditions that have developed in Molenbeek. Depressing is too mild a word. Although similar quotes may have been published upthread, in light of the latest arrests and the writings of Olivier Roy, I'm quoting the last few paragraphs of this article. To my mind, they pack quite a punch.

The speaker, Hakim, had discussed his friend, Hadfi, the youngest of the Paris suicide bombers, with reporter Hamza Hendawi.

But Hadfi was the good kid in their crowd. He told his friends not to steal, and they turned to him for help in schoolwork, Hakim said. He prayed regularly but never displayed any sign of radicalism.

In early 2015, Hadfi disappeared, running off to Syria. Hakim and several other friends told the AP they never saw him again, only learning after the attacks that he’d blown himself up outside the Stade de France, killing only himself.

Hakim doesn’t know exactly what led Hadfi to do what he did. But he believes he was drawn out of anger over the victims of Syria’s civil war.

“Trust me, it is not reading the Quran that radicalizes young men here,” he said. “It is the images of dead Syrian children.”

 

[bluesneakers]

Just jumping off of your post, blues, to an article from The Times of Israel regarding the conditions that have developed in Molenbeek. Depressing is too mild a word. Although similar quotes may have been published upthread, in light of the latest arrests and the writings of Olivier Roy, I'm quoting the last few paragraphs of this article. To my mind, they pack quite a punch.

The speaker, Samir Youssef Ali, had discussed his friend, Hadfi, the youngest of the Paris suicide bombers, with reporter Hamza Hendawi.

BBM true.

“Trust me, it is not reading the Quran that radicalizes young men here,” he said. “It is the images of dead Syrian children.”

I believe it. Look how people here react (and rightly so) to images of beheadings and victims of bombings. I think witnessing cruelty and torture evokes strong reactions and that leads to harsh retaliations and so back and forth we go.

 

[Montjoy]

I believe it. Look how people here react (and rightly so) to images of beheadings and victims of bombings. I think witnessing cruelty and torture evokes strong reactions and that leads to harsh retaliations and so back and forth we go.

Indeed -- and I think most North Americans are largely shielded from what goes on "over there". There have been thousands of civilian casualties over the years in all of the different theaters of combat in which the west has waged war. Males and females of all ages -- people who were non-combatants -- have been killed. I definitely understand collateral damage, just as I understand how seeing your sister, daughter, granddaughter, mother, brother, son, father, neighbor get bombed while s/he was going to buy a Coke could make some people angry.

 

[FindHG]

The Islamic State creates a new type of jihadist: Part terrorist, part gangster
By Anthony Faiola and Souad Mekhennet, The Washington Post
December 20 at 8:55 PM

“We are revolting against this state and this society that never accepted us as Belgian. We are revolting against our parents and also their countries of origin,” he said. “I don’t feel Belgian. I don’t feel Moroccan. I think of myself as a Muslim and that’s how Abdelhamid saw himself.”




Brussels police raid home, make arrests in Paris attacks probe
AFP
3 hours ago


Paris attacks suspect got past three police checks: source
AFP via Expaitca
21st December 2015,

 

[bluesneakers]

The Islamic State creates a new type of jihadist: Part terrorist, part gangster
By Anthony Faiola and Souad Mekhennet, The Washington Post
December 20 at 8:55 PM

“We are revolting against this state and this society that never accepted us as Belgian. We are revolting against our parents and also their countries of origin,” he said. “I don’t feel Belgian. I don’t feel Moroccan. I think of myself as a Muslim and that’s how Abdelhamid saw himself.”

Part cult, part gang, part terrorist group, and part pyramid scheme.

They would target train stations and tourists, stealing luggage, even shoplifting for their cause. The profits, officials say, went to help cover the costs of sending recruits from Europe to the battlefields of the Middle East.
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Zerkani was “a charlatan who manipulates young men or socially awkward men, for the wrong cause and probably for his own business.”
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The Islamic State uses showy Internet propaganda to advertise the allure of a paradise where disenfranchised youths can feel a rush of adrenaline and enjoy the spoils of war.
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Officials and Muslim leaders say Islamic State recruiters are appealing to young Muslims with criminal pasts because they make some of the best targets. They are often angry and alienated,
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He described the life of young Muslims in the district as hopeless, with many feeling stateless and confronting unemployment rates well above the national average. Most of his friends, he said, had done jail time.

And very dangerous.

 

[pappa rob]

The Islamic State creates a new type of jihadist: Part terrorist, part gangster
By Anthony Faiola and Souad Mekhennet, The Washington Post
December 20 at 8:55 PM

“We are revolting against this state and this society that never accepted us as Belgian. We are revolting against our parents and also their countries of origin,” he said. “I don’t feel Belgian. I don’t feel Moroccan. I think of myself as a Muslim and that’s how Abdelhamid saw himself.”

Mean people and morons suck. Why don't we revolt against the revolting idiots? I see myself as a Father, Grandfather, friend, human. U.S. citizen, Christian.. part time idiot. It's so bad you don't feel accepted, deal with it like everyone else does..

 

[FindHG]

A Medieval Antidote to ISIS
by Mustafa Akyol, The New York Times
DEC. 21, 2015

"As one such Muslim, I call on my like-minded coreligionists to join me in wearing the irja badge with pride — and revived knowledge. We lost this key theology more than a millennium ago, but we desperately need it today to both end our religious civil wars and to establish liberty for all."

 

[dotr]

A Medieval Antidote to ISIS
by Mustafa Akyol, The New York Times
DEC. 21, 2015

"As one such Muslim, I call on my like-minded coreligionists to join me in wearing the irja badge with pride — and revived knowledge. We lost this key theology more than a millennium ago, but we desperately need it today to both end our religious civil wars and to establish liberty for all."

 

[dotr]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ved-Paris-attacks-suspect-Salah-Abdeslam.html

Pot-smoking friends saved Paris attacks suspect Salah Abdeslam
Friends who drove getaway car of Europe’s most wanted man smoked pot which distracted attention of police who stopped them

Mohamed Amri and Hamza Attou said that when the getaway car carrying Europe’s most wanted man was stopped by French police on the way to Belgium the day after the attacks, an officer, alerted by the smell, asked if they had been smoking pot.

Abdeslam, sitting in the back, remained silent, but the two others, who had just smoked a joint, replied “Yes”.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Hundreds attend funeral for British victim of Paris attacks: Eagles of Death Metal merchandise manager who was murdered at Bataclan concert is laid to rest

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tack-Bataclan-Concert-hall.html#ixzz3uypC9Aao
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[Momoffourboys]

Bullring 'bomb plot': New image found on Paris jihadi's phone points to plan by terror cell to target Birmingham shopping centre

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Birmingham-shopping-centre.html#ixzz3uypaP099
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[Momoffourboys]

Salah Abdeslam, the fugitive suspected of involvement in last month's terrorist attacks in Paris, got past three police checkpoints in France as he fled to Belgium,

http://www.france24.com/en/20151220-paris-attacks-suspect-salah-abdeslam-police-checks-hamza-attou

 

[bluesneakers]

Retired French policeman detained after fake bomb found on Air France

A retired French police officer traveling on Air France was detained Monday after a fake bomb hidden in a lavatory forced his Paris-bound flight to make an emergency landing in Kenya, according to prosecutors.

The hoax — the fourth against Air France in recent weeks — comes amid heightened concerns about extremist violence in many countries, and heightened passenger jitters around the holidays.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-air-france-fake-bomb-20151221-story.html

 

[FindHG]

Ex-French Policeman Freed in Air France Fake Bomb Search
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS via The New York Times
DEC. 21, 2015, 2:37 P.M. E.S.T.

[...]

in his late 50s was once a member of the elite emergency response unit RAID and hailed from the French Indian Ocean island of Reunion.

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He could eventually be summoned for a second period of questioning, but further investigation is needed, said the official in the prosecutor's office, adding, "He's not completely out of the woods."

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Kenya alerted French authorities about the suspected involvement

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He said sniffer dogs traced the package back to their seats and the bathroom.