France - Karen Carter, 65, stabbed to death, Dordogne, 29 April 2025

  • #581
The Husband doesn't strike me as the careless type. If he was responsible for arranging the 'hit' then I'm sure he would have avoided using any form of communication that could be traced back to him i.e phone or email.
Also, how easy would it be for French magistrates to investigate his bank accounts or investments for suspicious transactions, considering they are held in South Africs and oustide of their legal jurisdiction?
According to the report in La Parisien from November :- "Recently, the investigating magistrate encountered difficulties accessing the victim's bank accounts, most of which are held in her native country"

So if they couldn't even get access to KC'S own bank accounts as recently as last month then maybe they haven't been able to investigate the husband's finances yet?

According to WS rules
a family member of the victim is considered a victim too.

The husband
- has NOT been named as a Person of Interest,
- has NOT been charged,
- has NOT been arrested.

JMO
 
  • #582
The Missy Bevers and Liz Barraza cases seem to be perfect crimes too. No movement in years yet perps on CTV!
 
  • #583
So he would be the one of the few in history of Criminology to commit a perfect crime.

They say that Perfect Crimes don't exist,
but here you are!

And all this in 21st Century with advanced Technology
and Media watching like hawks.

Oh,
and knowing that he would be the 1st scrutinized by LE as the husband.

Phew!!!

JMO
I follow many unsolved cases on websleuths, going back decades. I guess those could be considered perfect crimes.

However, one thing in this case is they appear to have DNA. So it can be solved.

JMO
 
  • #584
I follow many unsolved cases on websleuths, going back decades. I guess those could be considered perfect crimes.

However, one thing in this case is they appear to have DNA. So it can be solved.

JMO

There is always some evidence left at the crime scene.
(According to Locard's Exchange Principle)
The thing is to find & collect it.

I'm glad Police have DNA in Karen's case.
Now
the next step is to find a suspect to compare DNA.
And this seems to be a problem.
Every aspect of the victim's life must be checked.
If this crime is not random,
then the answer lies in her contacts.

"Along the thread to the ball of yarn"
as we say in my country :)

JMO
 
  • #585
There is always some evidence left at the crime scene.
(According to Locard's Exchange Principle)
The thing is to find & collect it.

I'm glad Police have DNA in Karen's case.
Now
the next step is to find a suspect to compare DNA.
And this seems to be a problem.
Every aspect of the victim's life must be checked.
If this crime is not random,
then the answer lies in her contacts.

"Along the thread to the ball of yarn"
as we say in my country :)

JMO
Is it right, that a lab can differentiate between DNA of white people and DNA of black people? My memory doesn't seem the best .....
 
  • #586
Is it right, that a lab can differentiate between DNA of white people and DNA of black people? My memory doesn't seem the best .....

No.

"DNA testing can estimate ethnic background,
revealing connections to specific populations,
but these estimates are often broad
and don't neatly align with racial labels
like Black, White, or Asian,
which are socially constructed."

 
  • #587
One thing. In his FB, AC seems to be the person trying to pull his big family (wife, 3 kids and a stepson), living on different continents, together. He is the one posting photos of the kids. He didn't hire a lawyer. It is Monsieur JFG who immediately lawyered up and didn't say a word. It seems that AC would think of the kids.
^ snipped & bolded by me

It seems he did hire a lawyer, according to this article. (As he should, imo.)
It calls him “the family’s lawyer” Réda Hammouche.
It says he welcomes the fresh appeal by the gendarmes to find witnesses.



A google search shows a Maître Réda Hammouche to be a criminal attorney based in Périgueux, France.
 
  • #588
^ snipped & bolded by me

It seems he did hire a lawyer, according to this article. (As he should, imo.)
It calls him “the family’s lawyer” Réda Hammouche.
It says he welcomes the fresh appeal by the gendarmes to find witnesses.



A google search shows a Maître Réda Hammouche to be a criminal attorney based in Périgueux, France.

Good idea 👍

As a member of the victim's family
he needs an official representative to allow the information flow
between him/family in SA and Investigators in France.

Let's not forget
the husband was not informed by French Police about wife's murder.
His cousin - who read the info on FB - called him.
As was reported.


JMO
 
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  • #589
No.

"DNA testing can estimate ethnic background,
revealing connections to specific populations,
but these estimates are often broad
and don't neatly align with racial labels
like Black, White, or Asian,
which are socially constructed."

True, but the ethnic origin is becoming more precise every day as the whole human genome is being mapped. Especially those groups who have traditionally lived together in their homeland. Eg, there was a case in my country that identified the murderer as probably an ethnic Kurd, a group who'd recently arrived to that specific area in large numbers as Syrian refugees. The police gathered DNA specifically from cultural gatherings and did find the match, and got a conviction on a child murder.

However, France, as I just checked, is the most anti-DNA geneology country in Europe. Same as no one is allowed to have CCTV cameras facing the road, in case they capture images of a private citizen.

JMO
 
  • #590
Is it right, that a lab can differentiate between DNA of white people and DNA of black people? My memory doesn't seem the best .....

A lab like 23@me or MyHeritage, for example, can give a breakdown of the owner's ethnicity. 23@me was excellent in defining not only "the British Isles" but the counties the ancestors used to live in. (But that's for the Brits). For the rest of Europe, I would not trust them with the towns that much, but a Western European is such, and so is an Eastern European. With Africans, one could see 35% Senegal, 25% Mali, 10% Gabon, etc for example. They likely won't be able to say that the person's ancestors used to live in South Africa 200 years ago, or at least I doubt it, but different African ethnic groups you'd surely see.
 
  • #591
I live in a rural area. Left my home and returned tonight after dark. Had switched the lights on next to the front door before leaving.
Got out of the car, opended the front door. Fetched the groceries, brought them into the house.
Returned to the car to fetch the dog. (Prevents dog escaping / stumbling over dog while carrying groceries.)

If I go away during daytime, I usually do not leave the outside lights on, even if I plan to return late.
When I come home after sunset, I get out of my car, open the front door, switch the lights on and return to the car to fetch groceries first & then dog.

All perfectly logical and nothing special at all.

So now I wonder what the fuss is all about her possibly speaking to someone? because she did what I do without thinking almost daily?
 
  • #592
I live in a rural area. Left my home and returned tonight after dark. Had switched the lights on next to the front door before leaving.
Got out of the car, opended the front door. Fetched the groceries, brought them into the house.
Returned to the car to fetch the dog. (Prevents dog escaping / stumbling over dog while carrying groceries.)

If I go away during daytime, I usually do not leave the outside lights on, even if I plan to return late.
When I come home after sunset, I get out of my car, open the front door, switch the lights on and return to the car to fetch groceries first & then dog.

All perfectly logical and nothing special at all.

So now I wonder what the fuss is all about her possibly speaking to someone? because she did what I do without thinking almost daily?

I think that lights outside with movement sensors would be better
than running to and fro.

Especially as first run is in the darkness -
to open the front door to switch on the lights,
and then the front door is not locked when returning to the car.

Outside movement sensors lights are convenient also
to see who is outside without opening the door, no? 🤔

Just my general observation :)

JMO
 
  • #593
I live in a rural area. Left my home and returned tonight after dark. Had switched the lights on next to the front door before leaving.
Got out of the car, opended the front door. Fetched the groceries, brought them into the house.
Returned to the car to fetch the dog. (Prevents dog escaping / stumbling over dog while carrying groceries.)

If I go away during daytime, I usually do not leave the outside lights on, even if I plan to return late.
When I come home after sunset, I get out of my car, open the front door, switch the lights on and return to the car to fetch groceries first & then dog.

All perfectly logical and nothing special at all.

So now I wonder what the fuss is all about her possibly speaking to someone? because she did what I do without thinking almost daily?
Her movements are normal, but the perp's seem unusual. Why wait for her to return to the car? Did he know she would??? You'd think if he intended to kill her, he would do it right away.

jmo
 
  • #594
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Her movements are normal, but the perp's seem unusual. Why wait for her to return to the car? Did he know she would??? You'd think if he intended to kill her, he would do it right away.

jmo
IMO, the theory was created to explain why the dog was in the car, Karen was outside the closed car, and the house front door was unlocked.

I think there'd need to be more info about how far the car door with the dog was from the front door, and how far along Karen had gotten. Was she 2 seconds from the front door when she literally bumped into the perp sneaking up behind her? Was she leisurely lingering by the car door in pitch darkness, smelling the roses, so the perp - who'd been watching her for days - decided tonight was the night to launch his attack from the entrance to the driveway?

JMO
 
  • #595
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IMO, the theory was created to explain why the dog was in the car, Karen was outside the closed car, and the house front door was unlocked.

I think there'd need to be more info about how far the car door with the dog was from the front door, and how far along Karen had gotten. Was she 2 seconds from the front door when she literally bumped into the perp sneaking up behind her? Was she leisurely lingering by the car door in pitch darkness, smelling the roses, so the perp - who'd been watching her for days - decided tonight was the night to launch his attack from the entrance to the driveway?

JMO
It has been reported that se was retrieving the dog from the back seat when she was attacked. She had just opened the rear passenger door.

Picture of the driveway where she was found (with blood visible on the ground):
police-tape-house-tr-molat-991723084_48664c.jpg


Picture od the driveway with the car in this article (more graphic): Meurtre d’une femme en Dordogne. « Elle était aimée de tous » : le choc dans un petit village
Another pic of the car from further away at: Mort d’une sexagénaire à Trémolat : plus d’un mois après les faits, l’assassin court toujours
 
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