Found Deceased France - Maëlys De Araujo, 9, Pont-de-Beauvoisin, 27 Aug 2017

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  • #681
MAËLYS: BOTH PARENTS RECOGNIZE FORMALLY THEIR DAUGHTER ON VIDEO SURVEILLANCE

BFMTV.com
http://www.bfmtv.com/mediaplayer/vi...-fille-sur-une-videosurveillance-1024807.html

After viewing the video surveillance footage showing Nordahl Lelandais's alleged vehicle on the night of 27 August, the date of the little girl's disappearance, Maëlys' parents formally recognized the child because of certain clothing details. They are confident that the white dressed silhouette in the car next to the driver is that of their daughter.


BBM



This information emerges after the lawyer of Nordahl Lelandais requested his release in the disappearance of Maëlys. No such request has been made yet in the case of Arthur Noyer, but in the video their lawyer tells that he has informed the parents of Arthur Noyer that this is a possibility. He says that he is not shocked professionally, but admits that this request may be shocking for the families.
 
  • #682
COULD THE FILE OF LUCIE ROUX BE REOPENED?

Le Dauphiné.com
http://www.ledauphine.com/faits-divers/2018/01/17/le-dossier-de-lucie-roux-peut-il-etre-rouvert



It's a new name that comes out of oblivion. The name of Lucie Roux, a woman who was 43 years old in 2012 when she disappeared without a trace, on a Sunday afternoon in September of the same year.

Lucie Roux suffered from depression and lived in a house, under the care of the psychiatric hospital of Bassens, with three other patients.

Through her counsel, Maître Christian Saint-André, her mother Olga is asking the public prosecutor of Chambéry to reopen the case, which has already been closed without further action on two occasions. For Maître Saint-André, a new element justifies the request:"Lucie was treated from 2006 to 2012. And it seems from reading the press that Nordahl Lelandais was followed by the medical-psychological centre of Chambéry from 2012 to 2013." Olga Roux's lawyer is cautious, but he feels the trail deserves to be looked at.

Olga Roux can not get out of her head that at the time, the investigation had not been sufficiently thorough. But, according to a source close to the file, all the investigations carried out by the judicial research unit of the Chambéry police station have been unsuccessful. Lucie Roux did not have a smartphone, no account on social networks. She was also very fragile at the time, and had thought about entering a religious order after attempting suicide. The same source confirms that the internal investigation carried out by the Bassens hospital centre had not produced anything conclusive.

At the age of 80, Olga Roux has prepared herself for the worst: "We believed for a long time that Lucie was alive, we believe her to be dead today." Olga Roux is a mother waiting for an answer that may never come. But she makes a final appeal for justice, almost desperate.
BBM. This confused me a bit. I think it's referring to this, which auto-translates better:

According to our information, Lelandais was treated until early 2013 by the alcoholology center of Chambéry because of its heavy reliance on alcohol. He had also taken up with the medical-psychological center of Chambéry because of a depression.

http://www.lalsace.fr/actualite/2017/12/22/nordahl-lelandais-un-profil-inquietant
 
  • #683
BBM. This confused me a bit. I think it's referring to this, which auto-translates better:

The author of the text uses suivi this refers to being monitored or supervised. IMHO this is more general than being treated.

Prendre attache avec from the second text is also rather general: take up contact, approach....

Normally speaking, all things medical are protected by privacy laws, so any lawyer will be cautious with these references, and very cautious in contacts with the press.
 
  • #684
MAËLYS: NEW TESTIMONIES WEAKEN THE DEFENSE OF NORDAHL LELANDAIS


BFMTV.com
http://www.bfmtv.com/police-justice...blissent-la-defense-de-lelandais-1353158.html


According to information gathered by BFMTV and broadcasted this Thursday, a witness told that during the wedding party in Pont-de-Beauvoisin en Isère on the night of 26-27 August, he caught a conversation between Nordahl Lelandeis and Maëlys. In addition, the testimony of the mother's cousin allows investigators to better understand the evening's chronology.

Information gathered by BFMTV and broadcasted this Thursday on our channel reinforces the idea of the proximity established by Nordahl Lelandais and Maëlys during the wedding party held on the night of 26-27 August in Pont-de-Beauvoisin, Isère. At the end of the evening, the nine-year-old girl disappeared. Although it was previously known that the child had presented the 34-year-old former soldier as her uncle to her mother during the festivities, it is now known that a witness claims to have observed a conversation between the main suspect in the case and Maëlys outside the party hall.

He then heard Nordahl Lelandais ask the little girl to go through a certain entrance, telling her that he would take another way, before ending up inside.


This testimony was transcribed to Nordahl Lelandais during his hearings before the judges. He assured that, with these few words, he was trying to prevent the children (i. e. Maëlys, and that little blond boy of whom the suspect has spoken several times since his arrest without him ever being identified) from falling down by getting their feet caught in the DJ's cables, that were covering the route he had taken at the time.

A new appreciation of the chronology of the drama also contradicts Nordahl Lelandais' defence. On our station, in December, his lawyer, Alain Jakubowicz, assured us that the little girl was still present at 3:15 a. m., based on a statement by a cousin of Maëlys's mother, and that nobody was worried about her absence until 3:30 a. m. The public prosecutor, Jean-Yves Coquillat, established her disappearance at 2:45 am.

Although the cousin of Maëlys' mother did mention, at first, seeing the girl on the strokes of 3:15 a. m., he then went back on his statements. "First, I said goodbye to the bride who was at the door of the hall, and I went back into the hall to say goodbye to the groom, Eddy. I saw Maëlys then. She hit me on the butt and told me to give my daughter a kiss... It was between 2:45 and 3:00. I'm giving you a range because I didn't look at the time. When I left, it was 3:10 or 3:20," he told the investigators at his third hearing. This is crucial because it was at 2:47 a. m. that the image of Nordahl Lelandais's alleged car was captured by the village video surveillance.

On Wednesday, we also learned that a few weeks ago, while watching the video surveillance footage of the car allegedly used by Nordahl Lelandais on the evening of Maëlys' disappearance, the girl's parents formally identified her as the frail passenger sitting next to the driver. This certainty is based on the dimensions of the silhouette in the vehicle, the white colour of the dress but also on the rather wide width of the straps of the garment.

Nordahl Lelandais is indicted for murder preceded by another crime, namely the alleged abduction of a child in the Maëlys case, but also for murder in another case: the death of Corporal Arthur Noyer. The 24-year-old had disappeared on the night of April 12 after a nightclub trip in Chambéry. His skull was discovered last September.

On Tuesday, Nordahl Lelandais filed an application for release. The public prosecutor announced that he was going to seek the rejection of this petition.


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  • #685
Okay - one more time - I've put the italics in (SNIP-SNIP)..Nordahl Lelandais was (SNIP-SNIP..see original post for full text)

Just wanted to say, “THANK YOU!!”, you really do such an incredible job with those list summaries..I’ve been MIA from this forum for a little bit, but just reading your summary has basically caught me up to who/what is still relevant, so...

“Thank You! For all of your time and hard work, it is definitely appreciated!”..[emoji4][emoji1360]

P.S. Ok, I hadn’t seen the other thanks above when I posted (reading bottom up)..*chuckles* but, guess we can’t say it too much..*smiles*..
 
  • #686
'LIKE HE WAS MAD AT THE ENTIRE WORLD'...(SNIP-SNIP..see original post for full text)...NL had two or even three dogs? Take a look at those tiny balconies.... a true dog lover, our Mr Lelandais.

Yes, I realize you were being sarcastic..*smiles*..

However, you hit on a good point, as I honestly do not believe that N.L. was ever a ‘dog lover’, not like other normal people actually love dogs or cats, etc., and who would be concerned/worried/feel guilty about their pet’s or any animal’s welfare if leaving them for a long time without one or more of the following:food/water/room to run, etc...(imoo) he would view them as almost inanimate property that existed for his own convenience/amusement until he got bored w/them or they displeased him too much and then he’d simply disregard them until next time, (if they were lucky)....what I do think that he ‘loves’ is the control and power owning dogs gave him over another living creature/being..and I believe that is why he had dogs in the first place, and why he was originally drawn to the dog training corps, etc..it gave him a real sense of power, and dominance over weaker beings/creatures, which he craved and reveled in..(moo based on his type of personality)..and likely after a time, the dogs weren’t enough...which is why they’re lucky, as I believe he could just as easily murder them and replace one, both, all with a new dog(s) aka a new toy without hesitation, even having had one or all them for years or even since pups..no real emotional attachment (moo)

Not sure if LE or Media have interviewed any of his past partners of the opposite sex, but I would bet that his personal relationships would reflect his deep need to be controlling, and he likely had a very short fuse and hot temper with them as well as others (his neighbors seemed to have picked up on his temper), and that their personal relationships were probably pretty abusive, if not physically, then certainly mentally..his controlling/dominating them, their attempting to appease him (but always falling short)...etc..(moo)

All of the above is just my own humble opinions, theories, presumptions, and/or Big Fish Tales; unless otherwise indicated by a website URL or my reference to a specific source..Thanks!
 
  • #687
A SPECIAL CELL OF THE GENDARMERIE WILL TRACE THE PAST OF NORDAHL LELANDAIS

(SNIP-SNIP.. for full text please see original post)
Since Nordahl Lelandais was implicated in the murder of Arthur Noyer in Savoie, which happened four months before Maëlys' disappearance in Isère, the justice system has wondered whether the suspect did not strike before. (SNIP-SNIP)

Each time, these gendarmes will have to establish where Nordahl Lelandais was at the time of the victim's disappearance. Some investigations will be simple: in the Estelle Mouzin case, it was enough for the investigators to question the army to learn that he was on a mission in Guyana at the time of the girl's disappearance in 2003 in Seine-et-Marne. Others are expected to be much more complex.

As RTL explains, the cell will have to check the suspect's telephone records to determine some of his movements, analyse his bank accounts and also probe his relationships. The suspect's past must be fully traced. (SNIP-SNIP)

What I’m wondering, is if the Gendarmerie, plan to notify those other LE jurisdictions that at XX Date and time through YY Date and time, that N.L. was in THEIR jurisdiction and that THEY too should look at him as a potential suspect in any of THEIR open cases during that time period??!!

I mean, I seriously doubt that whomever contacted the Military for the following:

“it was enough for the investigators to question the army to learn that he was on a mission in Guyana at the time of the girl's disappearance in 2003 in Seine-et-Marne.”

Then bothered to go so far out of their way, as to then call up the Guyana LE of the district he was stationed in, and to say, Hey, You may have had a SK in your area, during XX timeframe so check your files against his movements there locally...AND (IMHO), their NOT contacting those other potential jurisdictions to give notice to them w/a Heads Up!, would be/is IRRESPONSIBLE!...just sayin’ I sure hope someone points that out to the Gendarmerie, that it would be helpful for them to equally ensure that other jurisdictions outside of France if he travelled to them or even potentially ‘could have’ travelled to those locations, were to then be clued in that they too should at least consider the possibilities on their side of jurisdictional lines....

As always all of the above are just my own humble opinions, views, theories, thoughts, presumptions, and/or Big Fish Tales; unless otherwise indicated by a website URL and/or my referencing a specific source.
 
  • #688
@NINER & @ZAZARA

As you’ve Both done most of the timeline work..

Is it me? (and my suspicious nature making mental leaps...my being overloaded w/info from reading too much at one time)...or...does there seem to be a pattern of people falling into a big blackhole right around Chambéry?...(and/or areas at/near the train station?)...I’m not familiar with the area, but sure seems like a lot of referenced ‘last’ pings, then ‘poof!’...*tilts head*...I thought I saw at least 2-3 separate mentions about that area while back reading to catch up tonight... I mean, really, am I seeing something where it doesn’t exist or is there a pattern going on there??..Yup!, asking for a reality check since you guys/gals are so familiar with the who, disappeared where last and when..and have kept up with all the press coverage that has mentioned...our daughter/sister/son/crazy uncle Eddie, etc...last pinged in/around/near/at Chambéry....

@ZAZARA
Btw, I wanted to stop and take a moment to say, “THANK YOU!![emoji4][emoji1360]” too for all of your invested time & hard work with the on-going timelines & news clippings and so much more, that is helping to keep us mere mortals so well informed!!.*smiles*..YOU ROCK![emoji1373][emoji16]..and I/we appreciate it!..[emoji6]

I am now backing away from this sub-forum, as clearly I need a break (the last 3 posts are all mine)..Back another time..Best Regards, All!!...

As always, all of the above are just my own thoughts, opinions, views, presumptions, assumptions, and/or Big Fish Tales; unless otherwise indicated by a Website’s URL and/or my referencing a specific source...Thanks!
 
  • #689
Maëlys's mother recognizes her daughter in the suspect's car

he identified the slightly wide shoulder strap of the white dress that the child was wearing. These images, on file, were viewed at least twice by the child's parents. Each time, the mother was certain.

http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-dive...-la-voiture-du-suspect-17-01-2018-7506624.php


MAËLYS: BOTH PARENTS RECOGNIZE FORMALLY THEIR DAUGHTER ON VIDEO SURVEILLANCE

BFMTV.com
http://www.bfmtv.com/mediaplayer/vi...-fille-sur-une-videosurveillance-1024807.html

After viewing the video surveillance footage showing Nordahl Lelandais's alleged vehicle on the night of 27 August, the date of the little girl's disappearance, Maëlys' parents formally recognized the child because of certain clothing details. They are confident that the white dressed silhouette in the car next to the driver is that of their daughter.


BBM



This information emerges after the lawyer of Nordahl Lelandais requested his release in the disappearance of Maëlys. No such request has been made yet in the case of Arthur Noyer, but in the video their lawyer tells that he has informed the parents of Arthur Noyer that this is a possibility. He says that he is not shocked professionally, but admits that this request may be shocking for the families.

That must have been so chilling and devastating, for them to have to see her there by that monster, in his car. My heart does out to them and I truly hope we can get some justice for this poor sweet baby girl. :rose:
 
  • #690
REQUEST DENIED, NORDAHL LELANDAIS REMAINS IN PRISON



LeParisien
http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-dive...-lelandais-est-rejetee-23-01-2018-7518183.php


Not surprisingly, Nordahl Lelandais remains in prison. According to BFM TV, the court refused Tuesday to release the main suspect of Maëlys' disappearance case.

Nordahl Lelandais, who denies any responsibility, had made this request on 16 January. As soon as it was filed, the prosecutor of Grenoble had "obviously" pronounced himself in favour of his continued detention.

This demand was above all symbolic because the ex-military is also suspected of the assassination of Corporal Arthur Noyer in Savoy in April 2017. In this second case, the suspect has not yet filed any request for release, according to Chambéry prosecutor Thierry Dran.


BBM


:jail: :jail: :jail:
 
  • #691
NORDAHL LELANDAIS' LAWYER DENOUNCES RELENTLESS MEDIA


LePoint.fr
http://www.lepoint.fr/faits-divers/...nement-mediatique-24-01-2018-2189166_2627.php


After several weeks of absence in the media, Alain Jakubowicz, the lawyer of Nordahl Lelandais, decided to step up to the plate. The man who represents the main suspect in Maëlys' disappearance has denounced a "obsession by the media" of which his client is allegedly the victim. "The media and public opinion will not set the pace of this issue. I am only accountable to justice," he insisted on RTL on Wednesday. "I regret that public opinion is nowadays conditioned by the media, and in particular media that create false information, that creates so-called scoops, almost unanimously adopted by the press who do not check them."

The continued detention of Nordahl Lelandais was confirmed Tuesday by the rejection of Alain Jakubowicz's request for release. New elements, considered disturbing, have tightened in recent days the clamp around the suspect, including video surveillance images of Pont-de-Bonvoisin, the night Maëlys disappeared, showing Nordahl Lelandais' car, with a white shape on the passenger seat. The girl's parents would have recognized her.

But for Alain Jakubowicz, this so-called scoop is "a disgrace."
"When it is said that the parents formally recognized their child, it is so inaccurate that lawyer for Maëlys' parents was forced to tone it down. Everyone has taken up this so-called information, which supposedly revolutionises the case, even though it is contrary to reality," Nordahl Lelandais' lawyer said.


"I'm the lawyer for a man who is accused of the worst crime that could possibly exist. And I note that there are a considerable number of inconsistencies in this case. We're so convinced it's him that we're neglecting any other leads. This is simply outrageous," Alain Jakubowicz added.


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  • #692
BONES FOUND IN MID-JANUARY IDENTIFIED AS THOSE OF CORPORAL ARTHUR NOYER


Le Parisien
http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-dive...poral-noyer-identifies-25-01-2018-7522251.php

The bones that were found in mid-January by a walker on the pass of Marocaz above the municipalities of Cruet and Montmélian (Savoie) belong to the body of Corporal Arthur Noyer. They were identified in less than 24 hours according to our information. But the judicial authorities have been silent ever since.

It was in this same geographical area that fragments of skull had been discovered on 7 September, also by a hiker. The find made it possible to formally identify the young soldier who had disappeared.

This 23-year-old young Alpine hunter had vanished in the early morning of April 12,2017 after a nightclub trip with fellow regimental fighters. Nordahl Lelandais was indicted for murder in this case by an investigating judge of the Chambéry court (Savoie). Charges which are based in particular on mobile phones, the suspect's and victim's cell phones having activated similar terminals in the night.

Nordahl Lelandais is also indicted for the murder of Maëlys De Araujo, aged 9, who disappeared at the time of a wedding in Pont de Beauvoisin (Isère) at the end of August. Her body was never found.


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  • #693
NEW SEARCHES FOR MAËLYS?

Le Dauphine.com
http://www.ledauphine.com/savoie/20...ements-du-caporal-arthur-noyer-cruet-chambery


On January 12th of this year and as revealed by the Dauphiné Libéré at the time, human bones were found on the hills above the municipalities of Cruet and Montmélian (Savoie). It was there that remains of the skull of Corporal Arthur Noyer, who disappeared in April 2017 in Chambéry, were discovered a few months later [ after April ] by a hiker.

Since then Nordahl Lelandais has been under investigation, suspected of murdering the young Alpine hunter.

According to information from the Dauphiné Libéré, these new bones, found scattered, were immediately removed by the specialized gendarmes.

Very quickly (at least 48 hours) the DNA analyses carried out on these various bones showed that they constitute the remains of Corporal Noyer.

According to our information, no other DNA was found.


Nordahl Lelandais is also indicted for the kidnapping and murder of Maëlys. The little girl had disappeared at a wedding party at the end of August in Pont-de-Beauvoisin. Her body hasn't been found since.

According to our information, this area made up of small cliffs was frequented by Nordahl Lelandais. The ex-military of Domessin practiced climbing with his dogs. Physical feats that he did not hesitate to immortalize by posting photos on his Facebook profile that has since been closed.

These frightening discoveries can only challenge Grenoble's investigating magistrates and the Grenoble police officers in charge of the Maëlys case, the girl missing at the end of August from Pont-de-Beauvoisin, for which Nordahl Lelandais was successively indicted for kidnapping on 3 September and then for murder on 30 November. In spite of colossal searches, the child's body remains hopelessly untraceable.

According to our information, discreet searches have been carried out in this area over the last few days, a helicopter of the gendarmerie was spotted just this Wednesday. And new bodies of water, such as Lake La Thuile, could be explored. This mountainous site is only an hour's drive from Pont-de-Beauvoisin, where Maëlys disappeared at 2:45 in the morning on 27 August. This night of the drama, and according to the chronology established by the prosecutor of Grenoble, Domessin's ex-military officer, who never ceases to claim his innocence, had put his phone in plane mode from 3:57 am to 7:06 am, a slot of more than 3 hours during which the magistrate considered that the girl's body had disappeared.



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  • #694
It would seem obvious to me to search for Maelys up there where they found Noyer. I HOPE they find something soon, for her parents sake!

Thanks again for all the update ZaZara! Any "next" court date that you have seen? I guess they would have to formally indicted NL on murder charges of Noyer.
 
  • #695
LAWYER OF MAËLYS PARENTS: NORDAHL LELANDAIS HAS THINGS TO TELL US

RTL.fr
http://www.rtl.fr/actu/societe-fait...rdahl-lelandais-avocat-des-parents-7791985983


The waiting is unbearable. Five months after their daughter's disappearance, Maëlys' parents are still without news. The situation is so bad that the couple feels "taken hostage (...) insofar as an individual who has been indicted, remanded in custody and charged in a second case, refuses to tell us what happened to the child," Fabien Rajon, lawyer for the girl's parents, explains to RTL.

Today, Jennifer and Joachim De Araujo "are waiting" and "logically turn to this individual under investigation". If they "hold out hope", pessimism is called for when looking at the case and new evidence about the disappearance of young Corporal Arthur Noyer.

For Fabien Rajon, there are certainties in the case, contrary to the opinion of Nordahl Lelandais's lawyer, Alain Jakubowicz, who assured us on Wednesday 24 January that there are "a significant number of inconsistencies" in the Lelandais case. "The defense attorney does not clearly mention the innocence of his client," Rajon says.

Master Jakubowicz focuses his defense on the presumed chronology of events, which would clear his client. Indeed, Nordahl Lelandais would have vanished from the marriage at 2h46. According to one witness, the girl was still in the party hall of Pont-de-Beauvoisin at 3:15 am. "A skillful strategy for better forgetting all the other elements that exist against the indictee," Mr. Fabien Rajon dismisses. He questions the credibility of a witness who "is by no means certain of the timetable he was able to communicate" to the court.

"For us, one thing is central: it's the issue of the picture and video surveillance where my clients will recognize their child's dress in the respondent's vehicle," the lawyer told RTL. "And if the defense tells us that it's not Maëlys, then who is this?" the couple's lawyer says.

In front of the investigators, Nordahl Lelandais answered everything. "However, we consider that this individual has things to tell us about what happened to the child," Fabien Rajon argues. The suspect's interest in the method to make bodies disappear, the diligent washing of his vehicle some time after Maëlys' disappearance, and his journeys back and forth between the premises of the marriage and his home are all troubling elements that deserve our attention. "We have reason to believe that he has some responsibility," the lawyer concludes.


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  • #696
DISAPPEARANCE OF ADRIEN FIORELLO: FILE ADDED TO INVESTIGATION OF NORDAHL LELANDAIS


Le Progrès
http://www.leprogres.fr/loire-42/20...iorello-l-enquete-jointe-au-dossier-lelandais

Adrien Fiorello, a 22-year-old boy who lived with his parents in Firminy, disappeared on 6 October 2010. The last traces of him are located in Chambéry. Where Nordhal Lelandais lived at the time.

"Our lawyer had written a letter to the investigating magistrate when we learned that the justice system was tracing Nordhal Lelandais' history. In 2010, he had a dog breeding operation in Chambéry. The last trace we have of our son Adrien dates back to October 6... in Chambéry."

Marie-France Fiorelli received confirmation from her lawyer that the examining magistrate of Saint-Etienne, in charge of Adrien's disappearance, had requested the Chambéry prosecutor's office that the investigation into the young man from Firminy, be added to that of the region's other disturbing disappearances.


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  • #697
It would seem obvious to me to search for Maelys up there where they found Noyer. I HOPE they find something soon, for her parents sake!

Thanks again for all the update ZaZara! Any "next" court date that you have seen? I guess they would have to formally indicted NL on murder charges of Noyer.


BBM


Haven't seen any new court date. His lawyer is very quiet about the Noyer case.
 
  • #698
NORDAHL LELANDAIS: FOUR CASES OF DISAPPEARANCES IN ISÈRE HAVE BEEN REOPENED

Ouest-France.fr
https://www.ouest-france.fr/faits-d...disparition-en-isere-ont-ete-rouverts-5538552


The Nordahl Lelandais saga continues. Jean-Yves Coquillat, public prosecutor of Grenoble, has decided to reopen four cases of disappearances in Isère since 2010. In addition, eleven families gathered in Lyon (Rhône) on Thursday 1 February to discuss cases of missing relatives in the region.

In Isère, Nordahl Lelandais has already been indicted for the disappearance of Maëlys and the death of Corporal Noyer. Is he responsible for other disappearances in the region as well? Many families are wondering over the revelations about this 34 year old former army dog handler. Eleven of them met in Lyon (Rhône) on Thursday 1 February to discuss the mysterious disappearance of one of their own in the Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes region.

Coming from Isère, the two regions of Savoie and Drôme, they met discreetly at the mayor's office of the 3rd arrondissement at the initiative of the association Assistance et recherche de personnes disparues (ARPD), of which they are members. "These families do not accuse Lelandais, that is very clear. They simply want investigations to be made to close this door and be reassured that everything has been done to find their missing relatives," according to Bernard Valézy, President of the ARPD, at the end of the meeting.

The justice departmentm also raises questions. At the request of several families, Jean-Yves Coquillat, the public prosecutor of Grenoble, has reopened four investigations since January 19, according to information released on Thursday, February 1 by the regional newspaper Le Dauphiné Libéré.

These cases concern: Nicolas Suppo, 30 years old, disappeared on 15 September 2010 near Echirolles; Malik Boutvillain, 32 years old, disappeared on 6 May 2012, also in Echirolles; Stéphane Chemin, 33 years old, disappeared in the Bourg-d' Oisans region on 23 September 2012; Georgette Bonnet, 79 years old, residing in Lumbin, disappeared when she went to pick mushrooms in the Belledonne massif.

"Families saw hope in the cases of Arthur Noyer," the prosecutor explained, when interviewed by France 3 Regions. "At the moment, we have no connection between the missing persons, nor any link with Nordahl Lelandais. However, they took place in a geographical area close to that of Maëlys or Corporal Noyer. So there are things to check," he told the Figaro.

In these four cases, no bodies were found. Two were entrusted to the judicial police and the other two to the gendarmes of the Grenoble investigation section.

Present in Lyon this Thursday, Malik Boutvillain's family welcomed the decision of the Grenoble prosecutor. "This is a step that has been taken and a door that opens. We seize the opportunity to talk about Malik and find out what happened to him above all," his sister Dalila Boutvillain said. "Mr. Lelandais lives in Savoie (Editor's note: in Domessin), a few kilometres from Isère. We'll explore his trail."


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According to the website of the ARPD, Georgette Bonnet is probably Georgette Amathantoux. She was reported missing in October 2016, but her phone had not been active since September 9, 2016. Georgette lived alone and had little contact with her family. According to the neighbours, she used go to the mountains to pick blueberries (not mushrooms). Het car was found there, in a parking lot. It had been there for weeks.

http://www.arpd.fr/actualite-3711-a...orgette-amathantoux-disparue-a-lumbin-38.html
 
  • #699
MORE THAN ONE?:
I’m still leaning towards N. Lelandis, NOT being the only SK operating in that area..I’m glad to hear that the local LE Agencies are giving cases a 2nd, 3rd or however many, *look* again..Even if you subtrack out N.L.’s activity in the area, there are just far too many cases of..’went to X area, and Poof disappeared’..(imho) for there NOT to be/have been another yet unknown SK operating in that area as a hunting ground..

THE CASE OF MAËYLS:
I did the typical google earth search, and peeked the location of the Party (I have no clue where his home is located), but if you look at the location of the party at the complex and surrounding areas..(thinking like a criminal), there are PLENTY of locations close enough to immediately drive to without the likelihood of getting caught driving between, that are still far away from the original kidnap spot, to ensure he had plenty of time to do whatever nefarious things he wished, no one around to see nor hear[emoji25]

LOCATIONS:
Q:[emoji848]WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

a)[emoji594]Would drive for a solid hour on roads & highways you know that they are checking?..to reach a past dumping ground..

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b)[emoji592]Immediately drive to a pre-selected area (because no doubt this was pre-planned), much closer to the kidnapping, where You had darkness as your cover & isolation as a benefit, where you would have plenty of time, before law enforce were able to get it together enough & perform a targeted search of that area..I can’t recall the locations, etc.. (it’s been far too long since I 1st pulled up the map locales for me to recall the names, etc.)..BUT, I do recall that just south of the complex there are one or two VERY significant bodies of water, with easily accessible roads/hwy on/off access/backroad access leading to both possible wooded areas & right on water access, where under cover of darkness N.L. wouldn’t likely have been seen/spotted, not for hours on end..and both within what had to be (presumption as I am unfamiliar w/the area), from the looks of them, only 20-30 minutes drive down the road from the kidnap site..🤷🏻

I’m extremely curious, and IF someone knows or can explain it via map in relation to where the party onsite at the Apt Complex was held, and the Camera location which caught the picture of N.L. & M. ..and if the camera placement indicates any directional driving (ex: turned on Jones Street which runs East/West..etc...)..*shrugs*

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curiosityscat:


I’m extremely curious, and IF someone knows or can explain it via map in relation to where the party onsite at the Apt Complex was held, and the Camera location which caught the picture of N.L. & M. ..and if the camera placement indicates any directional driving (ex: turned on Jones Street which runs East/West..etc...)..*shrugs*

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The venue of the part is in the blue circle on upper left of the picture, and the cameras are located on the right side of the lower part of that picture (big blue rectangle). This is near the bridge across the river, in the direction of Domessin where the suspect lives. He might also have taken the D1006 in the direction of the Gorges the Chailles.

The area where the wedding took place was searched with dogs, the houses were searched too.

According to the timeline established by LE, Maëlys left with NL in his car and the cameras recorded the car within like two minutes.
 
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