France - Machine Gun attack on magazine Charlie Hebdo #1

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One of the snipers cheered on yesterday!
 

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Found this on FB, courtesy of photographer Martin Argyroglo
My goodness, what a photo! Looking much like a modern Delacroix scene.
 

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I don't have a problem with immigrants living together in certain parts of a city/country. I do have a problem with them being allowed to follow their own laws, not being fluent in the language of the country they are living in, and sucking benefits off of taxpayers.

Absolutely bang on. Too often the compassion and generosity of a people and a culture are seen by immigrants and their subsequent generations as a weakness to be exploited. It seems to me that many of those who grab the benefits aren't grateful for the support, but, instead, despise the people whose tax dollars have helped them survive.

IMO, politically correct government policies are a dangerous form of appeasement that democracies can no longer afford.
 
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Found this on FB, courtesy of photographer Martin Argyroglo
My goodness, what a photo! Looking much like a modern Delacroix scene.

Amazing photo.
Thank you so much for posting it, Waddles.
 
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FRENCH NETWORK ITELE INTERVIEW WITH BENYETTOU, MENTOR OF KOUACHI BROTHERS


itele @itele tweets about this interview

Translation:



Exclusive of itele - Farid #Benyettou, the former mentor of #Kouachi brothers, explanis himself on itele - http://itele.fr/direct

Farid #Benyettou "My aim is not to proclaim my innocence, of my innocence there is no doubt" (exclusive of itele)

Farid #Benyettou "Farid Benyettou does not at all agree with what happened, he condemns it"

Farid #Benyettou "all this should not be attributed to Islam, if you do all that, it is because you are murderers"

Farid #Benyettou "two months ago Cherif #Kouachi came to visit me"

Farid #Benyettou "he wanted to discuss, especially everything that revolves has to do with the fight, he was fascinated by this"

Farid #Benyettou 'his knowledge of religion was limited to that part, the conduct of the Muslim in everyday life, he knew not"

F. #Benyettou "in the relationship with God, Cherif was not interested, everything around the fight is what interested him" (itele)

Farid #Benyettou "This is one further proof that what guided Cherif #Kouachi in all this, that it is nothing but ignorance" (itele)


BBM


Benyettou is training to become a paramedic / nurse in the hospital were some of the victims were brought to after the attack.
He was suspended from his job.
 
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FRENCH NETWORK ITELE INTERVIEW WITH BENYETTOU, MENTOR OF KOUACHI BROTHERS


itele @itele tweets about this interview

Translation:



Exclusive of itele - Farid #Benyettou, the former mentor of #Kouachi brothers, explanis himself on itele - http://itele.fr/direct

Farid #Benyettou "My aim is not to proclaim my innocence, of my innocence there is no doubt" (exclusive of itele)

Farid #Benyettou "Farid Benyettou does not at all agree with what happened, he condemns it"

Farid #Benyettou "all this should not be attributed to Islam, if you do all that, it is because you are murderers"

Farid #Benyettou "two months ago Cherif #Kouachi came to visit me"

Farid #Benyettou "he wanted to discuss, especially everything that revolves has to do with the fight, he was fascinated by this"

Farid #Benyettou 'his knowledge of religion was limited to that part, the conduct of the Muslim in everyday life, he knew not"

F. #Benyettou "in the relationship with God, Cherif was not interested, everything around the fight is what interested him" (itele)

Farid #Benyettou "This is one further proof that what guided Cherif #Kouachi in all this, that it is nothing but ignorance" (itele)


BBM


Benyettou is training to become a paramedic / nurse in the hospital were some of the victims were brought to after the attack.
He was suspended from his job.

Interesting, thank you for posting this!
 
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It's unbelievable to me that the amazing event in Paris yesterday can be twisted from a positive into a negative media campaign against Obama and the US. I don't know why I continue to be surprised by everything turning into an Obama slam. Have Americans nothing better to do?


It is unbelievable to scores of Americans that POTUS did not attend, and I find it unfortunate that this has been reduced to an "Obama slam". Across the political spectrum, the administration is being criticized for appearing cowardly and impassive, and not stepping up personally on behalf of the French people.

Former Press Sec'y Jay Carney had the nerve to say that this was a matter of "French solidarity". Really?

As an American, I find the US security excuse mind-numbingly lame, arrogant, and a display of executive self-absorption. If Israel can stand, literally, shoulder to shoulder with the French after a terrorist attack, then surely America can and should. What is our most iconic symbol? Lady Liberty gifted to us by the people of France through a French liberal thinker's gesture, as a symbol of solidarity.. Americans hold the First Amendment dear beyond all other freedoms, because all other freedoms fundamentally flow from the right to speech. Do you know how deeply embarrassing it is for so many Americans to see images of John Kerry sitting next to the Saudi royals with tables loaded with exquisite plates of food and drink and floral arrangements, as if we are at a family gathering, when Saudi bloggers are given 1000 lashes under radical Islamic law for having their own thoughts and sharing them publicly? And I personally think that if members of the media are too afraid to publish the Charlie Hebon cartoon, then their display of the JeSuisCharlie hashtag is the height of hypocrisy.

So, yes, there are times when Americans have nothing better to do, and for many of us, this includes saying out loud that we dissent when it comes to the lack of American executive presence in Paris. And as an American who cut her teeth on the documents that frame our nation and flow from European libertarian thought, from the time I was in kindergarten and receiving that instruction in the simplest terms, let me say emphatically: I am ashamed and angered and deeply saddened that our Executive branch did not have the heart and soul for France on 1/7/2015 that France had for us on 9/11/2001.

We may make jokes about France and have our own cartoons, but as someone noted on Twitter today, France was the midwife when we were birthed. So in my American mind, there is no excuse for America to shrink back when it comes to our executive leadership marching in the street with France after tyrants slaughtered its people. JMO
 
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It is unbelievable to scores of Americans that POTUS did not attend, and I find it unfortunate that this has been reduced to an "Obama slam". Across the political spectrum, the administration is being criticized for appearing cowardly and impassive, and not stepping up personally on behalf of the French people.

Former Press Sec'y Jay Carney had the nerve to say that this was a matter of "French solidarity". Really?

As an American, I find the US security excuse mind-numbingly lame, arrogant, and a display of executive self-absorption. If Israel can stand, literally, shoulder to shoulder with the French after a terrorist attack, then surely America can and should. What is our most iconic symbol? Lady Liberty gifted to us by the people of France through a French liberal thinker's gesture, as a symbol of solidarity.. Americans hold the First Amendment dear beyond all other freedoms, because all other freedoms fundamentally flow from the right to speech. Do you know how deeply embarrassing it is for so many Americans to see images of John Kerry sitting next to the Saudi royals with tables loaded with exquisite plates of food and drink and floral arrangements, as if we are at a family gathering, when Saudi bloggers are given 1000 lashes under radical Islamic law for having their own thoughts and sharing them publicly? And I personally think that if members of the media are too afraid to publish the Charlie Hebon cartoon, then their display of the JeSuisCharlie hashtag is the height of hypocrisy.

So, yes, there are times when Americans have nothing better to do, and for many of us, this includes saying out loud that we dissent when it comes to the lack of American executive presence in Paris. And as an American who cut her teeth on the documents that frame our nation and flow from European libertarian thought, from the time I was in kindergarten and receiving that instruction in the simplest terms, let me say emphatically: I am ashamed and angered and deeply saddened that our Executive branch did not have the heart and soul for France on 1/7/2015 that France had for us on 9/11/2001.

We may make jokes about France and have our own cartoons, but as someone noted on Twitter today, France was the midwife when we were birthed. So in my American mind, there is no excuse for America to shrink back when it comes to our executive leadership marching in the street with France after tyrants slaughtered its people. JMO

Amen!!!
So very well said. Same.
 
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Wow, thank you. Not sure what time you can start buying Wednesday's issue from. I'll be there at opening.

Opening the Libé link I see this http://www.liberation.fr/monde/2015...as-arrete-de-marcher-sur-des-cadavres_1177839
So unimaginable, walking 5 kilometres through bodies. Up to 2000 feared dead in latest Boko Haram attack according to Amnesty International.
 
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It is unbelievable to scores of Americans that POTUS did not attend, and I find it unfortunate that this has been reduced to an "Obama slam". Across the political spectrum, the administration is being criticized for appearing cowardly and impassive, and not stepping up personally on behalf of the French people.

Former Press Sec'y Jay Carney had the nerve to say that this was a matter of "French solidarity". Really?

As an American, I find the US security excuse mind-numbingly lame, arrogant, and a display of executive self-absorption. If Israel can stand, literally, shoulder to shoulder with the French after a terrorist attack, then surely America can and should. What is our most iconic symbol? Lady Liberty gifted to us by the people of France through a French liberal thinker's gesture, as a symbol of solidarity.. Americans hold the First Amendment dear beyond all other freedoms, because all other freedoms fundamentally flow from the right to speech. Do you know how deeply embarrassing it is for so many Americans to see images of John Kerry sitting next to the Saudi royals with tables loaded with exquisite plates of food and drink and floral arrangements, as if we are at a family gathering, when Saudi bloggers are given 1000 lashes under radical Islamic law for having their own thoughts and sharing them publicly? And I personally think that if members of the media are too afraid to publish the Charlie Hebon cartoon, then their display of the JeSuisCharlie hashtag is the height of hypocrisy.

So, yes, there are times when Americans have nothing better to do, and for many of us, this includes saying out loud that we dissent when it comes to the lack of American executive presence in Paris. And as an American who cut her teeth on the documents that frame our nation and flow from European libertarian thought, from the time I was in kindergarten and receiving that instruction in the simplest terms, let me say emphatically: I am ashamed and angered and deeply saddened that our Executive branch did not have the heart and soul for France on 1/7/2015 that France had for us on 9/11/2001.

We may make jokes about France and have our own cartoons, but as someone noted on Twitter today, France was the midwife when we were birthed. So in my American mind, there is no excuse for America to shrink back when it comes to our executive leadership marching in the street with France after tyrants slaughtered its people. JMO

Thanks again :toastred:
 
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Found this on FB, courtesy of photographer Martin Argyroglo
My goodness, what a photo! Looking much like a modern Delacroix scene.

Wow, does indeed look like Delacroix's liberty leading the people come to life!! Powerful!


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Thank you Waddles. I felt like it was CNN who made it into an issue when it wasn't one, with Jake Tapper starting the harping on it during the broadcast of such a beautiful, peaceful, amazing demonstration of unity. I lost a ton of respect for that network yesterday. They couldn't let a beautiful thing just be.

I don't think anyone in the States was criticiizing the BEAUTY of the Paris March. It was a thing of sheer beauty, no doubt about it. It was watching the long line of world leaders, arm in arm, in solidarity, that brought up our own DISAPPOINTMENT with our current administration.

Hearing Obama's lame excuse, anout 'his security detail being a distraction' is INSULTING, to us and to The French people. Does Obama not think that the heads of every country have their security with them? No, once again. Obama led from behind. JMO
 
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I just wanted to say the debate and discussion you guys have been having here this last week is really interesting, awesome and eye opening and I love coming back here to check in and get everyone's perspective.

Very much thinking of and feeling for the families and friends of those who lost their lives.

Off to sleep.
 
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It is unbelievable to scores of Americans that POTUS did not attend, and I find it unfortunate that this has been reduced to an "Obama slam". Across the political spectrum, the administration is being criticized for appearing cowardly and impassive, and not stepping up personally on behalf of the French people.

Former Press Sec'y Jay Carney had the nerve to say that this was a matter of "French solidarity". Really?

As an American, I find the US security excuse mind-numbingly lame, arrogant, and a display of executive self-absorption. If Israel can stand, literally, shoulder to shoulder with the French after a terrorist attack, then surely America can and should. What is our most iconic symbol? Lady Liberty gifted to us by the people of France through a French liberal thinker's gesture, as a symbol of solidarity.. Americans hold the First Amendment dear beyond all other freedoms, because all other freedoms fundamentally flow from the right to speech. Do you know how deeply embarrassing it is for so many Americans to see images of John Kerry sitting next to the Saudi royals with tables loaded with exquisite plates of food and drink and floral arrangements, as if we are at a family gathering, when Saudi bloggers are given 1000 lashes under radical Islamic law for having their own thoughts and sharing them publicly? And I personally think that if members of the media are too afraid to publish the Charlie Hebon cartoon, then their display of the JeSuisCharlie hashtag is the height of hypocrisy.

So, yes, there are times when Americans have nothing better to do, and for many of us, this includes saying out loud that we dissent when it comes to the lack of American executive presence in Paris. And as an American who cut her teeth on the documents that frame our nation and flow from European libertarian thought, from the time I was in kindergarten and receiving that instruction in the simplest terms, let me say emphatically: I am ashamed and angered and deeply saddened that our Executive branch did not have the heart and soul for France on 1/7/2015 that France had for us on 9/11/2001.

We may make jokes about France and have our own cartoons, but as someone noted on Twitter today, France was the midwife when we were birthed. So in my American mind, there is no excuse for America to shrink back when it comes to our executive leadership marching in the street with France after tyrants slaughtered its people. JMO
amazing post. You've perfectly articulated how many I. The US feel right now!!!!
 
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THREE MILLION COPIES OF CHARLIE HEBDO TO FEATURE MOHAMMED CARTOONS

http://news.yahoo.com/weeks-charlie-hebdo-feature-mohammed-cartoons-lawyer-145010472.html


Paris (AFP) - This week's three million copies of Charlie Hebdo, the first post-attack issue of the French satirical weekly, will defiantly feature caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed, its lawyer said Monday.

The special issue, to come out on Wednesday, will also be offered "in 16 languages" for readers around the world, one of its columnists, Patrick Pelloux, said.


Charlie Hebdo's lawyer, Richard Malka, told French radio the upcoming publication will "obviously" lampoon Mohammed -- among other figures -- to show staff will "cede nothing" to extremists seeking to silence them.

(...)


The 44-year-old newspaper has always sought to break taboos with its provocative cartoons on all religions, current events and prominent personalities.

The paper's distributors, MLP, had initially planned to print one million copies of the issue currently being put together by survivors of the shooting.
But MLP said demand from France and abroad has been huge and that three million copies would now be released.

The original paper printed at 60,000 copies a week, selling 30,000.

With their headquarters still a crime scene, remaining staff are working out of the offices of daily newspaper Liberation with equipment loaned by the Le Monde daily and cash handed out by other French and even foreign media.

Charlie Hebdo had been sliding towards bankruptcy before the attack against it.

But since gaining worldwide notoriety in the past few days, it has won pledges of support from the French government and media groups.


BBM


Amazing. I am staring at maps and calculating how long it would take me to get to France... :back:
 
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I've always been an Obama supporter. However, he has screwed this one up, royally!
 
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