Further evidence that Cindy may know what happened

[lillygator]

Cindy knows what happened. She is a liar and a fake and shame on her for playing all of us for donations and for using Tim and his team......

 

[Short_Stuff]

I think Cindy may know "some" things, but she is in denial because her and George feel guilty for throwing Casey out after the fight over the grandmom/grandpop (in the homes) stolen money.
My thoughts...It's not their fault for throwing her out/arguing w Casey that day, and they need to stop enabling Casey NOW, and they need to get help now before they end up sick or worse from all of this.

 

[lillygator]

I think Cindy may know "some" things, but she is in denial because her and George feel guilty for throwing Casey out after the fight over the grandmom/grandpop (in the homes) stolen money.
My thoughts...It's not their fault for throwing her out/arguing w Casey that day, and they need to stop enabling Casey NOW, and they need to get help now before they end up sick or worse from all of this.

sick or worse? what about Caylee......they all should rot.

 

[Chiquita71]

Hello WS :cool2:

Is this five (bump) words?... lol.

 

[Leila]

This is according to marked page 298 in the 400 pages of documents that were released:



I do apologize if this has been discussed previously, but I couldn't find an individual thread mentioning this. I have been reading through the 400 pages for the last few days and this was surprising to me, as it hasn't been mentioned much in the media.

If this is true, then it clearly shows that Cindy and Lee know what has happened to Caylee. It also jives with Cindy doing the about face and all of her inconsistencies. Lee has been MIA for quite sometime as well...

Of course, this could be another lie told by Casey. For some reason, I don't think it is. Maybe because this is the only time I have heard her implicate herself in some wrong doing, even though it is only remotely assumed.

I am sympathetic to what the GP's are going through. It must be awful. But I still believe in my heart that at the least Cindy may be involved somehow. JMO

I remember this! I've always felt that what Casey meant in that letter to MH was that she had important news to tell him, and that news was that Caylee was his biological child, and that she had already confided this to her mother and brother.

Casey had to have known that if she remained in Orlando she would have to see her parents at some point and explain Caylee's absence. I think she was planning on trying to leave Orlando and that letter to MH was a means to get some financial help in leaving.

I've also felt that in that first call to 911 on July 15th, when Casey told her mom, "just give me one more day", Casey would have disappeared.

Later that night or in the wee hours of July 16th, Lee retrieved Casey's belongings from Tone's apartment. Among the belongings, which Cindy went through on the driveway that night, was Casey's wallet, which had money in it. IIRC, around $200, which Cindy pocketed. That money was likely money stolen from AH.

If Cindy HAD given Casey one more day, and Casey had high-tailed it back to Tone's apartment and gotten her belongings, I think she would have been on a bus out of Orlando to some unknown destination.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Cindy Anthony's Myspace Entry

Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught – July 4, 2008

“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”

I do believe her ramblings here, she knew what became of Caylee...some words show that to me...

Jealousy took her away. She is gone and I don't know why?? (seems CA does know, IMO)...
Betrayal A mothers love is deep but there are limits??? (Isn't killing Caylee one of those limits???)
Provided a safe home (vs a loving home)..
Broken heart
Who is watching out for the little angel now...


Justice for Caylee

 

[Solace]

I do believe her ramblings here, she knew what became of Caylee...some words show that to me...

Jealousy took her away. She is gone and I don't know why?? (seems CA does know, IMO)...
Betrayal A mothers love is deep but there are limits??? (Isn't killing Caylee one of those limits???)
Provided a safe home (vs a loving home)..
Broken heart
Who is watching out for the little angel now...


Justice for Caylee

LLL,

Exactly what I was thinking the other day. This murder is founded on jealously on the part of KC. Interesting that Cindy knew this and yet it still continued.

 

[Pattymarie]

I do believe her ramblings here, she knew what became of Caylee...some words show that to me...

Jealousy took her away. She is gone and I don't know why?? (seems CA does know, IMO)...
Betrayal A mothers love is deep but there are limits??? (Isn't killing Caylee one of those limits???)
Provided a safe home (vs a loving home)..
Broken heart
Who is watching out for the little angel now...


Justice for Caylee

I forgot about this MySpace posting. I think this is HUGE and the defense should use this to establish motive. This posting and CA's mother's comment about KC hating her mother more than she loved Caylee are the crux of the whole case, I think.

 

[Solace]

I forgot about this MySpace posting. I think this is HUGE and the defense should use this to establish motive. This posting and CA's mother's comment about KC hating her mother more than she loved Caylee are the crux of the whole case, I think.

You mean the prosecution?

 

[Pattymarie]

You mean the prosecution?

Oops...yeah! thanks (not a legal eagle!)

 

[Solace]

Oops...yeah! thanks (not a legal eagle!)

Not a big deal at all. I do it all the time.

 

[ynotdivein]

Whether or not Casey takes the immunity deal in my opinion will tell a lot.

IMO, the state has enough to convict her of at least negligent homicide. If Casey is guilty of even less, NOW is the time to speak up and to give her daughter a decent burial.

The only reason I can come up with for Casey not to talk now is if Caylee's body will show evidence Casey did worse.

MOO

RBBM

Just rereading this thread and noted how prescient Jolynna's observations were, back on August 31, 2008. (Wow almost two years ago...) Perhaps we need a thread to keep track of WSers' predictions that come true.

 

[LambChop]

RBBM

Just rereading this thread and noted how prescient Jolynna's observations were, back on August 31, 2008. (Wow almost two years ago...) Perhaps we need a thread to keep track of WSers' predictions that come true.

And it reminds us of CA's statement to KC the night of July 15, 2008......"What did you do?"

 

[Solace]

And it reminds us of CA's statement to KC the night of July 15, 2008......"What did you do?"

I dont' know that any deals are in the mix - they have the skeleton with tape over the mandible - this is a murder - they don't really need anything else from her. IMO

 

[Mendara]

Somehow I've had it in my mind that Casey was going to tell this guy that he was Caylee's father, and needed to start paying her child support. Telling him that Caylee was back in FL while she worked *cough* and set up a new home, and telling Cindy that she and Caylee were in Cali.

Would give her an income without working, and a story to tell people on both ends about WHERE'S CAYLEE?

ah now you are thinking like KC!!!

I think she was just going to tell him she "had" a baby from him, but "lost" it and was now moving to Cali. I think she was going to tell her family that he was Caylee's father and planned to tell them she was moving with him to CALI and would be "traveling" with him in the military.

That would would take care of it and be a half truth. Then maybe she was going to go to NYC with TL.

 

[Solace]

ah now you are thinking like KC!!!

I think she was just going to tell him she "had" a baby from him, but "lost" it and was now moving to Cali. I think she was going to tell her family that he was Caylee's father and planned to tell them she was moving with him to CALI and would be "traveling" with him in the military.

That would would take care of it and be a half truth. Then maybe she was going to go to NYC with TL.

Very good. I had never thought that far ahead. Right KC did cry when Tony teased her about moving back to NY and he also told detectives that he told KC he did NOT want girls because he was raised with them and they make for an ugly child. He had to go back to the detectives because he omitted this from his first interview. It is significant.

I definitly think this played into the killing and I think there was a genuine hatred for Cindy's love of the child.

 

[charok]

I forgot about this MySpace posting. I think this is HUGE and the defense should use this to establish motive. This posting and CA's mother's comment about KC hating her mother more than she loved Caylee are the crux of the whole case, I think.

isnt there transcripts or something from interview? shirley p( ca mom, ica grandma) that said something to this line,too?( that brat hated her mom more than she loved caylee?) i could be wrong but i could almost swear that there was....

 

[Purple Iris]

Well, I will be very happy to read Hawkins interview when it is finally released.

In an early doc dump, there are instant message transcripts and some e-mails between Casey and Mark Hawkins.
He told her that he had been thinking of her a lot lately, that he had talked to his mother about Casey in regards to them getting back together, etc.
That he was looking forward to being a father to Caylee, and that he hoped to make her proud in that respect, that he really loved Caylee.
Casey seemed to be "happy" in those conversations. She spoke of a leave that he had recently taken and they had seen each other, and that she couldn't wait to see him again.

I always though that she was going to take off to California, and tell MH that she had left Caylee behind with her parents until "they" were settled.
But, she would have only been able to put him off for so long also, because by all accounts in those conversations, he was accepting of Caylee and looking forward to seeing her grow up.
So, she would have been playing games with him and her parents in regards to where Caylee was at.

Given the chats and talks that she and MH had, I don't think that she would have told him that he was the father, {though I have always thought that he IS}.

And, it seems to me, that these chats were before she met up with TonE L.
So, maybe she tossed Hawkins to the side, as she always seemed to have someone on the side as an insurance package, so to speak.
But, maybe she HAD planned on taking off to California WITH Caylee at one time, but things took a terrible turn and she couldn't show up in California without Caylee.

At any rate, does anyone remember reading those releases, and know where to find them?
They were IM messages, text messages and e-mails between the 2 of them.