GUILTY GA - Antonio Santiago, 13 mos, Brunswick, 21 March 2013 - #3

[Cherry]

thanks for the live feed link; I've been having nothing but bars on WATs page. It sucks as I've missed most of the testimony now :waaaa:

I still feel that the mother is lying and I cannot help it; due to her statements interviews and her actions.

 

[vlpate]

I would like to know in what way she changed her story. Wish we had more info.

Allegedly, SW told her daughter AS was shot first..then later told her she was shot first. http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=305674

 

[vlpate]

thanks for the live feed link; I've been having nothing but bars on WATs page. It sucks as I've missed most of the testimony now :waaaa:

I still feel that the mother is lying and I cannot help it; due to her statements interviews and her actions.

Me too on the bars, I've been waiting all morning for the live feed. I hope someone is recording for youtube

 

[lowens1975]

My mother talked about her father's life insurance on the same day he died as well. She wanted to begin planning his funeral, to take the burden off her mother. And she wondered how much insurance there was and when it woyld be available for the funeral expenses.

Sherry West was probably grieving and talking nervously. Asking about a 5 thousand dollar insurance policy does not make her GUILTY of shooting her baby in the head.

I don't know about anyone else, but if I had just witnessed my infant being shot in the face, after staring down the barrel of that same gun and being shot by it too, I don't know if I would be coherant. I have to give her her propers for doing what she was able to do.

 

[Hickory Born]

It has surprised me that Gough has asked for so many mistrials. I think he is just wishing and hoping because he doesn't have a good defense for his client.

 

[AngelWings444]

Live link working at WAT.

http://wildabouttrial.com/demarquise-elkins-live-stream.html

 

[vlpate]

Here is the story about her older son. Apparently he with a group of others decided to confront someone. That someone was able to use a knife and stab the older son. The older son died.
This has no connection whatsoever to the baby's murder. The older son looked remarkably like the poor baby Antonio.
http://www.nj.com/south/index.ssf/2008/03/west_deptford_teen_killed_in_a.html

The knife that was used belonged to SW's son. He was attempting to stab the kid who ultimately took the steak knife from SG and killed him in self-defense. I can't imagine any way SW could have been involved in that tragic event.

In a way, SW must relate to Elkin's mother (save for the fact that she tried to dispose of the gun). Both their sons were about the same age when their propensity for violence was met with swift and deadly consequences. It would be hard for SW to judge DE's mother without taking at least a glance at herself - what if her son had killed the boy he pulled that knife on? Freak set of circumstances to be sure.

 

[fran]

It has surprised me that Gough has asked for so many mistrials. I think he is just wishing and hoping because he doesn't have a good defense for his client.

Each time an attorney requests a mistrial, it becomes part of the permanent record. IF and when the defendant is convicted, he will have appeals of the verdict. If the defense doesn't ask for a mistrial because the State hasn't proven their case, which I believe this latest request included, then on appeals, they couldn't include that if they find something later on in the pros case.

This goes the same for objections. Quite often, during the course of the trial, a defense attorney will object and the judge either overrules or not. IF when researching for the appeal, if the defense finds another reason a certain piece of evidence or such should not have been presented, if there was no objection during the case in point, they forfeit the opportunity to use it on appeal.

Does all that make sense? At least that's what I understood from the Arias trial. But as you can see, I'm in no way connected to the legal field so it's possible I understood it wrong, and or, what I just typed above makes no sense at all. :facepalm:

JMHO
fran

 

[PrairieWind]

It has surprised me that Gough has asked for so many mistrials. I think he is just wishing and hoping because he doesn't have a good defense for his client.

He is just preparing the case for appeal. In order to appeal many of these issues he either has to make an objection or make a motion for mistrial in order to preserve the issue for appeal. He knows they will be denied, but he has get them on the record.

 

[fran]

LOL, PrairieWind !

I should have waited a couple of minutes for your response. :slap:

Your explanation is much more understandable than mine and I'm sure absolutely correct!

Thank you!

fran

 

[lowens1975]

Live link working at WAT.

http://wildabouttrial.com/demarquise-elkins-live-stream.html

This one too if it posts right.

http://whoopwhoop.tv/elkins.htm

Wait for ad to finish...

The feed has been on delay up until a few minutes ago. The one I posted earlier should work now too.

 

[vlpate]

Someone paid Lang's attorney fees of $23,000 in cash - seems to be relevant in some way to the defense. Who has that kind of money in cash for a 14 year old indigent?

I'm trying to figure out what kind of "deal" is being inferred by the defense.

 

[ohiogirl]

Tim Pulliam ‏@TimPulliam 3h

Defense wants Lang's attorney, Kimberly Copeland to testify how her legal fees were paid. Defense says she was paid $23k in cash. @wjxt4

 

[ohiogirl]

Tim Pulliam ‏@TimPulliam 3h

Gough believes Copeland reached a deal with the state for Dominique Lang to testify against #Elkins @wjxt4 Copeland and state deny claim.

 

[CountryGirl]

Why are the attorney and witness reading scripts?

 

[noZme]

Why are the attorney and witness reading scripts?

witness is unavailable. attorneys are reading his deposition into the record.

sorry folks but that IS the way we sound in Gawr-ger (dawg, whut, wussant, etc)

 

[Hickory Born]

I didn't know DL was indigent.

For all we know his extended family could have pitched in and asked their friends and churches to pitch in. Why is it important if the attorney is paid in cash or a check? They could have had fundraisers for DL's defense or a wealthy employer of one of DL's family could have paid the bill.

I don't see what Gough is getting at.

 

[Hickory Born]

Someone paid Lang's attorney fees of $23,000 in cash - seems to be relevant in some way to the defense. Who has that kind of money in cash for a 14 year old indigent?

I'm trying to figure out what kind of "deal" is being inferred by the defense.

Sorry, my response above is directing at this post.

 

[ohiogirl]

Tim Pulliam ‏@TimPulliam 3h

Neighbors are testifying about what they heard, saw or didn't see. @wjxt4 #elkins
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Tim Pulliam ‏@TimPulliam 3h

Judge will rule on the "Copeland" issue later today. Court is now in session #Elkins jury entering courtroom

 

[vlpate]

SW did not start CPR on Antonio until the male witness was in front of her and asked if he was still breathing. Her statements made me think she started CPR immediately after taking the stroller to the side of the house.

Hickory: My indigent statement - he was not able to pay for his own representation is what I meant - I realize the term was not used properly since he was not found indigent by the court and afforded an attorney.

edited to add - I see now she gave CPR immediately -- the witness arrived at the same time she stopped the stroller.