I thought her upper looked almost non-existent. Like she needed some filler in it. <modsnip - off topic> (IMO)Serious question: is something wrong with her upper lip?
I just haven’t seen that amount of protrusion before in that area.
It looks like she had too much filler.
I watched this morning. The prosecutor said she needed to tell the judge and the defense something right when they were going to break. She seemed giddy. Said nothing like this has ever happened. The judge called a twenty minute break but it was more like 40 minutes. When they returned, nothing was said, they just continued on like normal.I didn't watch this morning, watched Sarah Boone instead. Did something happen? L&C chat says something about new evidence?
The granddaughter testified again. When asked about whether there was a whole lot of gossip and rumor in her family, she said, “Yes, and it’s all true”. Made everyone laugh. Also, she testified that she and her gal pal checked to see if the coast was clear when the sneaked out of their room to hang out in the hot tub on the night of Jul 4. She said there was no sign of Melody. Also, Melody had hustled them off to bed.I didn't watch this morning, watched Sarah Boone instead. Did something happen? L&C chat says something about new evidence?
I wondered about that, too. Usually, older folks’ lips kind of collapse because their teeth get shorter and shorter. Melody’s mugshot shows she has a very tall philtrum. Maybe it gets puffy when she has filler.Serious question: is something wrong with her upper lip?
I just haven’t seen that amount of protrusion before in that area.
It looks like she had too much filler.
It’s not unusual for wealthy parents to support their offspring. Also, Gary genuinely needed help on the farm, and Scott was in the awkward transition from the military.My suspicions grow around the 2 sons. As noted above, Chris knew things before he should have known them. Also, Scott, the younger son, deleted images on the trail cam which may have shown who dumped the body on the burn pile. AND he immediately went looking for the "missing gun" as soon as he found the body. The bullet was not apparent yet somehow he knew his Dad had been shot? Both sons very dependet on Dad for $$$ to live. Things that make me go hmmmmmm.
I don’t think she would have been able to answer an odor question, as it would depend which direction the wind was blowing. The kids didn’t see anything, but their noses were buried in their phones.I wish the anthropologost had been asked how long it would have taken for the body to burn to the extent that the remains were found and wouldn't there have been an odor of burning flesh??
I didn't mean for her to answer the burn smell as much as the other people at the property while the burn pile was active might notice. The burn of human flesh I would think would be noticeable.I don’t think she would have been able to answer an odor question, as it would depend which direction the wind was blowing. The kids didn’t see anything, but their noses were buried in their phones.
And they have the outer ranges of the timeline: last use of CPAP——-> discovery of body. Plus, no one would have known how large the fire was before lighting. I would venture to bet Melody shoveled more ignitables on top, too. They knew she unlikely used a liquid accelerant, since they couldn’t find a trace, but there would have been plenty of debris, and she had the Kubota to scoop it up with. And she must have done at least SOME scooping, because the body parts were found in an otherwise unlikely pattern. I’m thinking she scooped up debris, and plunked it on top of the body, and wanted it to get nice and in there. In the process, there was some movement of body parts. Perhaps most of the body was all in one piece still, though, and that’s why she had to do some scooping to pile more stuff on top. The items that got burned first (e.g. the skull, because the brain is high in fat) would have been the items that got scattered.
Gosh, now that I thought out that scenario, I feel ill about what went down at the fire pit.
Odor of burning flesh clearly didn’t strike anyone, since Melody had to kind of direct searchers (i.e. Scott) to look at the fire pit.
Melody coulda let the horses out, simply by opening the gate and shooing them along. Then she could summon Scott, so he could be the first to find the remains on the burn pile. Despicable: she set him up.Finished what trial testimony is on Youtube and have caught up on this thread to the present. I feel that because I hadn't heard of this case nor read this thread from the beginning that I was almost like a juror listening to the case for the first time. The evidence against MWF is believable but so far so many things, to me, have not been addressed. Still so many questions.
If this was premeditated, several things had to fall in line on the day she picked. As it happened, Scott was gone from property and she knew Chris would be busy with his girls, but it would also be traditionally a busy weekend. If I followed correctly, GF can't be traced after mid afternoon on 2 Jul and was not missed until the morning of 5 Jul?
Factor in the whims of 3-4 teen age girls and the comings and goings of that AND I find it hard to believe the granddaughters were not more aware of where their grandfather was the short time they were there or that GF did not make himself present while in the family mix on the main floor of the house, just in general conversation with everyone.
Just random ----Scott was at the lake, so did the horses really get out and was it serious enough for him to be called home? When and who started the burn pile? GF was going to burn things but did he start it? How long did it need to burn to burn his body and how would anyone know or how did whoever did this know it would not be discovered earlier and the remains not sufficiently 'gone'?
The testimony of both paramours was interesting. IMO, Ted was sleazy and Rusty knew more than he told, as it was revealed later.
At this point, I still can't envision MWF moving the body by herself with or without machinery with the time and noise involved.
TIA for my ramblings
I don't think the anthropologist could testify over how long it would take the body to burn, because she didn't know the temperature of that fire. There would be too many factors, too, like what the body was lying on, whether there was ash on top, whether it was stirred around (it obviously was) etc. IIRC she did give a guesstimate of the temperature or what kind of heat it would take.I wish the anthropologost had been asked how long it would have taken for the body to burn to the extent that the remains were found and wouldn't there have been an odor of burning flesh??