GA - Former President Donald Trump indicted, 10 counts in 2020 election interference, violation of RICO Act, 14 Aug 2023

[Cubby]

Very telling and brave ...

Duncan is standing up. He is challenging his party to be the party that they have been in the past. When a politician says a phrase like "straight to the ditch" in describing a party member's action, it is cause to take notice.

(this link works)

That might not be possible until those using Trump's playbook are voted out of office.

 

[Lilibet]

Trump, 18 allies indicted on RICO charges in Georgia: Live updates and reactions

Trump Georgia indictment: GOP rivals and legal experts react to case against former president and his allies

Former President Donald Trump has been indicted by a grand jury in Georgia on criminal charges stemming from Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis’s long-running investigation into attempts to subvert the results of the 2020 presidential election in that state.

news.yahoo.com

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is giving all 19 defendants until Aug. 25 to voluntarily surrender.

The indictment lists 41 felony counts, including violation of the Georgia's RICO (or Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) Act; false statements and writings; conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer; and influencing witnesses, among others.

Trump has been charged with 13 counts — including a charge of violating Georgia's RICO (or Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) Act.

Link to the GA indictment thread.

GA - Former President Donald Trump indicted, 10 counts in 2020 election interference, violation of RICO Act, 14 Aug 2023

Indictment unsealed and Trump reportedly incited The documents have been unsealed, CNN reports, and show that US President Donald Trump has been indicted for a fourth time. The Guardian has not confirmed this yet...

www.websleuths.com

 

[MyBelle]

Remember when DT said something along the lines of he could shoot someone in Central Park and still be loved?

He's right. There is a group of people out there who still support him even if he is convicted and goes to prison.
If they weren't convinced by what they saw on Jan 6 nothing will change their minds.

Jmo

I think you are right. Trump made that joke back in 2016 in Iowa. Recently, he was at the Iowa State Fair and the crowd was quite large and enthusiastic.

JMO

 

[Lilibet]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/15/politics/fact-check-trump-attacks-fani-willis-georgia/index.html

WashingtonCNN —
Former President Donald Trump has launched a barrage of attacks, many of them dishonest, against the Georgia district attorney who is prosecuting him over his attempts to overturn his 2020 election defeat in the state.

Both before and after he was indicted Monday in Fulton County, Trump targeted District Attorney Fani Willis, an elected Democrat, in speeches, social media posts and a television ad released by his 2024 election campaign, which Trump also posted on social media. Below is a fact check of two of his false claims, an inflammatory claim for which there is no evidence, and a misleading claim from the campaign ad.

 

[Cool Cats]

Link to the GA indictment thread.

GA - Former President Donald Trump indicted, 10 counts in 2020 election interference, violation of RICO Act, 14 Aug 2023

Indictment unsealed and Trump reportedly incited The documents have been unsealed, CNN reports, and show that US President Donald Trump has been indicted for a fourth time. The Guardian has not confirmed this yet...

www.websleuths.com

Thanks
Are there threads for each individual charge? 4 charges?

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I really wish Republicans would stop their knee-jerk "weaponization against Trump" <modsnip>

Asked by reporters about new charges unveiled against Trump in Georgia, Scott pointed to a "legal system weaponized against political opponents that is un-American and unacceptable."

Tim Scott lauds Iowa at state fair, dismisses new Trump indictment as 'Un-American'

Sen. Tim Scott praised Iowa and Gov. Kim Reynolds at the State Fair but dismissed the latest Trump indictment as "un-American and unacceptable."

www.desmoinesregister.com

 

[MyBelle]

I really wish Republicans would stop their knee-jerk "weaponization against Trump" <modsnip>

Asked by reporters about new charges unveiled against Trump in Georgia, Scott pointed to a "legal system weaponized against political opponents that is un-American and unacceptable."

Tim Scott lauds Iowa at state fair, dismisses new Trump indictment as 'Un-American'

Sen. Tim Scott praised Iowa and Gov. Kim Reynolds at the State Fair but dismissed the latest Trump indictment as "un-American and unacceptable."

www.desmoinesregister.com

I'm not a Republican and I agree with Scott.

The GA indictment is political weaponization and over-reach by the Fulton County DA. I'm appalled that she would indict a retired school teacher in another GA county who truly believed the Dominion voting system was compromised in the Jan. 5th Senate race. Her concerns at that time had nothing to do with Trump. Facts do matter.

JMO

 

[branmuffin]

I want that. I have served on a Grand Jury - I know that a defendant has no presence, that comes at the trial.

I understand why a Grand Jury session has no defendant present. Why should a prospective defendant be given a heads up regarding upcoming charges? Why should some criminal get an opportunity to threaten or kill individuals to circumvent witnesses against the defendant? That's been done in biker and mobster circles. Why should a killer be able to know what evidence a prosecutor has against him? Why tip off murderers, mobsters, rapists, insider traders, traitors, pyramid schemers, etc that justice is coming for them? If you believe that a Grand Jury can indict a ham sandwich what does it matter? I have yet to see a ham sandwich get convicted.

 

[branmuffin]

I don't really have an opinion except I rather enjoy going to the polling place in person. I see people I know and there is a community feeling that is uplifting. I really "feel" the democracy happening.

jmo

Just don't get thirsty in that line up.

 

[Inthedetails]

Thanks
Are there threads for each individual charge? 4 charges?

There are separate threads for:

FL
DC
NY
GA

So far.

jmo

 

[Lilibet]

This article is a very good explanation of how RICO is being used in this case.

https://wapo.st/45wREFr

The law is the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act​

You’ll see it referred to as RICO. It allows prosecutors to combine several alleged crimes — in this case, conspiracy to defraud the state, false statements and writings, impersonating a public officer, forgery, computer theft and dozens of others — into one racketeering charge that calls for up to 20 years in prison.

<snip>

The indictment approved on Monday describes the former president and 18 co-defendants as “a criminal organization whose members and associates engaged in various related criminal activities” to try to change the election results. Its introductory pages cite numerous alleged offenses by Trump and his advisers and supporters, including “false statements and writings, impersonating a public officer, forgery, filing false documents, influencing witnesses, computer theft, computer trespass, computer invasion of privacy, conspiracy to defraud the state, acts involving theft, and perjury.”

Willis had strongly signaled she would use the RICO law to seek charges against Trump and his associates. In an interview with The Washington Post last year, she said she likes applying the RICO statute because it “allows you to tell jurors the full story.”

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I'm not a Republican and I agree with Scott.

The GA indictment is political weaponization and over-reach by the Fulton County DA. I'm appalled that she would indict a retired school teacher in another GA county who truly believed the Dominion voting system was compromised in the Jan. 5th Senate race. Her concerns at that time had nothing to do with Trump. Facts do matter.

JMO

Facts do matter.

That the GA indictment is political weaponization and overreach by the Fulton County DA is your opinion, not a fact.

It is a fact that under Georgia law, Willis can indict someone in another GA county.

It is a fact that no matter what she believed, Latham did not have the legal right to allow Trump operatives to access the voting machines.

 

[Stunned]

Sooo with all of this amazing proof, he should be ready for trial and there shouldn't be any delays, correct?

Absolutely! Should be a slam dunk for him!

 

[Inthedetails]

Okay, I'm delving into the 98-page indictment from Georgia and I hope others are reading along too! Here's the link: DocumentCloud

The 19 defendants are listed on pages 1-2. I saw some familiar and expected names, but also some names I didn't recognize. Here's a handy list to know who is who. It might have been posted already, but this can be a refresher:

• Donald Trump, former U.S. president
• Rudy Giuliani, Trump lawyer
• Mark Meadows, White House chief of staff
• John Eastman, Trump lawyer
• Kenneth Chesebro, Trump lawyer
• Jeffrey Clark, top Justice Department official
• Jenna Ellis, Trump campaign lawyer
• Robert Cheeley, lawyer who promoted fraud claims
• Mike Roman, Trump campaign official
• David Shafer, Georgia GOP chair and fake elector
• Shawn Still, fake GOP elector
• Stephen Lee, pastor tied to intimidation of election workers
• Harrison Floyd, leader of Black Voices for Trump
• Trevian Kutti, publicist tied to intimidation of election workers
• Sidney Powell, Trump campaign lawyer
• Cathy Latham, fake GOP elector tied to Coffee County breach
• Scott Hall, tied to Coffee County election system breach
• Misty Hampton, Coffee County elections supervisor
• Ray Smith, Trump campaign attorney

The 19 defendants, including Trump, charged in Georgia

Here are the 19 people charged in the Georgia case, according to the indictment.

www.kcra.com

 

[MyBelle]

Facts do matter.

That the GA indictment is political weaponization and overreach by the Fulton County DA is your opinion, not a fact.

It is a fact that under Georgia law, Willis can indict someone in another GA county.

It is a fact that no matter what she believed, Latham did not have the legal right to allow Trump operatives to access the voting machines.

BBM. Yes, it is my opinion which I clearly stated with "JMO" below my post.

It is also a fact that an indictment doesn't guarantee a conviction, nor does it guarantee the re-election of a politically biased DA.

JMO

 

[Lilibet]

Facts do matter.

That the GA indictment is political weaponization and overreach by the Fulton County DA is your opinion, not a fact.

It is a fact that under Georgia law, Willis can indict someone in another GA county.

It is a fact that no matter what she believed, Latham did not have the legal right to allow Trump operatives to access the voting machines.

Exactly. Cathy Latham is not just an innocent retired school teacher. She cooperated with Sydney Powell to give access to the county voting machines (caught on video) and she was a fake elector. Her beliefs did not justify these actions.

'Fake' Coffee County Trump elector wants 2020 Georgia election investigation ended

Cathy Latham, who also played a key role in the copying of election data in Coffee County, filed the motion Friday

www.11alive.com

Latham also played a key role in the alleged breaching and copying of election data in Coffee County on Jan. 7, 2021. Both the Georgia Bureau of Investigation and Fulton County District Attorney are investigating the breach.
Surveillance footage shows Latham escorting operatives working with former Trump attorney Sidney Powell through the front door of the county's election office. The operatives then spent hours inside the office copying election data.

Texts reviewed by 11Alive and obtained through a years-long civil lawsuit challenging the security of Georgia’s electronic voting systems show Trump allies were invited to inspect the county's voting system.
“Huge things are starting to come together! Most immediately, we were granted access - by written invitation! - to the Coffee County systens (sic). Yay!”, said Trump attorney Katherine Friess in a Jan. 1, 2021 text message.

Meet the 18 people charged with Trump in Georgia indictment

Former President Trump was indicted in Georgia late Monday night on 13 charges ranging from making false statements and impersonating a public officer to conspiracy and racketeering — a charge gene…

thehill.com

Sidney Powell​

Beyond RICO charges, Sidney Powell is one of the handful of Trump associates to be charged with violating Georgia election law statutes, conspiracy to commit election fraud.

Much of that stems from Powell’s involvement in accessing voting equipment in Coffee County. Forensics experts copied the data from the county, using it to create a website that could be accessed by those looking for election issues.

That likewise sparked charges for conspiracy to commit computer theft, conspiracy to commit computer trespass, and conspiracy to commit computer invasion of privacy.

Powell is also charged with conspiracy to defraud the state, detailing it as theft of data as voter data is “property which was under the control of Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger.”

Cathy Latham​

Cathy Latham, a retired teacher, served as the chairwoman of the Coffee County Republican Party and was spotted on surveillance footage welcoming employees of technology solutions firm SullivanStrickler — which was allegedly paid by Powell — into the county’s elections office on the day of the breach.

Latham was also one of the 16 pro-Trump individuals who signed documents purporting to be Georgia’s presidential electors.

 

[BritsKate]

Latham's also charged with perjury which I believe alludes to consciousness of guilt which obviously flies in the face of her believing in her heart of hearts.

If you believe you did nothing wrong, why lie under oath?

ETA: And why does her implied age and previous occupation matter, anyway? It's kinda manipulative - like a retired schoolteacher is somehow impervious to wrongdoing or more of a 'victim' in this debacle. There's enough probable cause that she committed crimes that she's been indicted. I just don't get why some people keep referring to her as a retired schoolteacher instead of the former Coffee County GOP chair which was her role at the time of the allegations against her.

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

Exactly. Cathy Latham is not just an innocent retired school teacher. She cooperated with Sydney Powell to give access to the county voting machines (caught on video) and she was a fake elector. Her beliefs did not justify these actions.

'Fake' Coffee County Trump elector wants 2020 Georgia election investigation ended

Cathy Latham, who also played a key role in the copying of election data in Coffee County, filed the motion Friday

www.11alive.com

Latham also played a key role in the alleged breaching and copying of election data in Coffee County on Jan. 7, 2021. Both the Georgia Bureau of Investigation and Fulton County District Attorney are investigating the breach.
Surveillance footage shows Latham escorting operatives working with former Trump attorney Sidney Powell through the front door of the county's election office. The operatives then spent hours inside the office copying election data.

Texts reviewed by 11Alive and obtained through a years-long civil lawsuit challenging the security of Georgia’s electronic voting systems show Trump allies were invited to inspect the county's voting system.
“Huge things are starting to come together! Most immediately, we were granted access - by written invitation! - to the Coffee County systens (sic). Yay!”, said Trump attorney Katherine Friess in a Jan. 1, 2021 text message.

Meet the 18 people charged with Trump in Georgia indictment

Former President Trump was indicted in Georgia late Monday night on 13 charges ranging from making false statements and impersonating a public officer to conspiracy and racketeering — a charge gene…

thehill.com

Sidney Powell​

Beyond RICO charges, Sidney Powell is one of the handful of Trump associates to be charged with violating Georgia election law statutes, conspiracy to commit election fraud.

Much of that stems from Powell’s involvement in accessing voting equipment in Coffee County. Forensics experts copied the data from the county, using it to create a website that could be accessed by those looking for election issues.

That likewise sparked charges for conspiracy to commit computer theft, conspiracy to commit computer trespass, and conspiracy to commit computer invasion of privacy.

Powell is also charged with conspiracy to defraud the state, detailing it as theft of data as voter data is “property which was under the control of Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger.”

Cathy Latham​

Cathy Latham, a retired teacher, served as the chairwoman of the Coffee County Republican Party and was spotted on surveillance footage welcoming employees of technology solutions firm SullivanStrickler — which was allegedly paid by Powell — into the county’s elections office on the day of the breach.

Latham was also one of the 16 pro-Trump individuals who signed documents purporting to be Georgia’s presidential electors.

BBM. Interesting that the Georgia Bureau of Investigation did an investigation of Cathy Latham more than two years ago but didn't bring any charges.

Instead, the Fulton County DA brings charges nearly three years later. Her obviously political agenda is laughably absurd.

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

Latham's also charged with perjury which I believe alludes to consciousness of guilt which obviously flies in the face of her believing in her heart of hearts.

If you believe you did nothing wrong, why lie under oath?

Where is the proof Latham lied under oath?

I read Latham's deposition in another case and she repeatedly invoked her 5th Amendment right. I wasn't aware that invoking her Constitutional rights is wrong.

JMO

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

BBM. Yes, it is my opinion which I clearly stated with "JMO" below my post.

It is also a fact that an indictment doesn't guarantee a conviction, nor does it guarantee the re-election of a politically biased DA.

JMO

If he didn't break the law then there'd be nothing to indict. You said "facts matter" but now you're saying it wasn't facts it was just your opinion. I can see the confusion. MOO