GA - Former President Donald Trump indicted, 10 counts in 2020 election interference, violation of RICO Act, 14 Aug 2023

[Inthedetails]

For those reading the Georgia indictment along with me, I'm continuing. I'm still on Count 1, which is the big RICO Act Violation count that all 19 defendants are charged with. There are 161 acts under this count, and I'm picking up progress here:

43. Dec 8, 2020: Trump called George Attorney General Chris Carr to make false statements about election fraud in GA and elsewhere. Trump asked Carr not to discourage other state attorneys general from joining federal lawsuit filed by Texas. The lawsuit contested elections in GA, MI, PA, WI. (Reminder note: this lawsuit was tossed out because TX did not have standing to bring the case, duh. I'll link a source below.)

44. Dec 8, 2020: Trump and John Eastman (Trump lawyer) called RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel to ask her to help gather individuals to cast electoral votes for Trump on Dec 14 in certain states, despite Trump losing the election in those states.

45. Dec 8, 2020: Michael Roman (Trump campaign official) texted unindicted co-conspirator #4 that he had talked to Misty Hampton (Coffee County, Georgia elections supervisor). He asked #4 to get Misty to attend a hearing before the GA House of Representatives Government Affairs Committee on Dec 10.

These notes are from page 30. The actual GA indictment is here:

23SC188947 - CRIMINAL INDICTMENT

www.documentcloud.org

Source regarding Texas lawsuit that was quickly rejected: U.S. Supreme Court throws out Texas lawsuit contesting 2020 election results in four battleground states

 

[Inthedetails]

The Peach State Indictment read-through continuation.
Count 1: RICO Act Violation.
All 19 defendants are charged with this count. There are 161 acts under the count.

Any bolding is by me.

As a reminder: elector nominees have no legal right to cast electoral votes. They are not actual electors.

46. Dec 9, 2020: Kenneth Chesebro (Trump lawyer) wrote memo "Statutory Requirements for December 14 Electoral Votes" to James Troupis (Trump campaign attorney). Memo detailed state-specific instructions for Trump elector nominees in Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin to meet and cast electoral votes for Trump on Dec 14, despite the fact Trump lost the election in those states.

47. Dec 10, 2020: Kenneth Chesebro (Trump laywer) emailed Georgia Republican Party Chair David Shafer and unindicted co-conspirator #9. Chesebro stated certain individuals in the campaign asked him "to help coordinate with the other 5 contested states, to help with logistics of the electors in other states hopefully joining in casting their votes on Monday."

48. Dec 10, 2020: Kenneth Chesebro (Trump lawyer) emailed document to David Shafer (GA GOP Chair) and unindicted co-conspirators #9, #10, #11. Trump elector nominees in Georgia were to use the documents to cast electoral votes for Trump despite the fact Trump lost the election in Georgia.

49. Dec 10, 2020: Kenneth Chesebro (Trump lawyer) emailed documents to Arizona Republican Party Executive Director Gary Safsten and others. Trump elector nominees in AZ were to use the documents to cast electoral votes for Trump despite the fact Trump lost the election in Arizona.

50. Dec 10, 2020: Kenneth Chesebro (Trump lawyer) emailed Republican Park of Wisconsin Chair Brian Schimming with proposed language for Trump elector nominees in Wisconsin to case electoral votes for Trump despite the fact Trump lost the election in Wisconsin.

51. Dec 10, 2020: Kenneth Chesebro (Trump lawyer) emailed Nevada Republican Party Vice Chair Jim DeGraffenreid. Chesebro stated Rudy and others in the Trump campaign asked him "to reach out to you and other NV electors to run point on the plan to have all Trump-Pence electors in all six contested States meet and transmit their votes to Congress on Monday, Dec 14."

52. Dec 10, 2020: Kenneth Chesebro (Trump lawyer) emailed documents to Jim DeGraffenreid (Nevada GOP). The Trump elector nominees in NV were to use the documents to cast electoral votes for Trump on Dec 14 despite the fact Trump lost the election in Nevada.

53. Dec 10, 2020: Kenneth Chesebro (Trump lawyer) emailed documents to Republican Party of Pennsylvania General Counsel Thomas W. King III. The Trump elector nominees were to use the documents to cast electoral votes for Trump despite the fact Trump lost the election in Pennsylvania. (Note: the numbering of the acts is a bit messed up in this section of the indictment in case anyone wants to focus on clerical errors rather than the felony charges.)

54. Dec 10, 2020: David Shafer (GA GOP Chair) called unindicated co-conspirator #2 to discuss #2's attendance at the Dec 14 meeting of Trump elector nominees in Fulton County, Georgia.


Dec 10 was an active day. I'll continue with Dec 10 on another post.

Source: GA Indictment, pages 31-32

23SC188947 - CRIMINAL INDICTMENT

www.documentcloud.org

 

[Kudzuu]

Moo
We need to elect people who can actually talk about issues intelligently. But that requires people to think. They'd rather just hurl insults. There should be more to a campaign than winning.

We the people NOT we the filthy rich.

 

[Reasonable & Just]

Power

Don’t forget the cover (and endorsement by his voters) to keep engaging in sweet, sweet crime. JMO

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Moo
We need to elect people who can actually talk about issues intelligently. But that requires people to think. They'd rather just hurl insults. There should be more to a campaign than winning.

We the people NOT we the filthy rich.

rbbm
Heaven help us all! moo

 

[Inthedetails]

Dec 10, 2020, continued.

Reading through the Georgia Indictment, starting with Count 1: Violation of Georgia RICO Act.
All 19 defendants are charged with this count. There are 161 acts listed under this count and I'm going through them in order. These are my notes at my pace. Original document is linked below.

Any bolding is by me.

55. Dec 10, 2020. Rudy and Ray Smith (Trump campaign attorney) committed a felony of Solicitation of Violation of Oath by Public Officer in Fulton County, Georgia by unlawfully soliciting certain public officers serving as elected members of the Georgia House of Representatives to engage in felony offense of unlawfully appointing presidential electors from Georgia.

56. Dec 10, 2020. Rudy committed felony offense of False Statements and Writings in Fulton County, Georgia by unlawfully making at least one of the following false statements to Georgia House of Representatives at House Governmental Affairs Committee meeting:
* Quite clear from State Farm Area video from election night that election workers were stealing votes and officials were covering up a crime. (Reminder: this is false)
* At State Farm Arena on election night, Democratic officials "got rid of all the reporters, all the observers, anyone that couldn't be trusted," used the excuse of a watermain break, cleared out voting area and then "went about their dirty, crooked business." (Reminder: this is false)
* 12,000-24,000 ballots were illegally counted by election workers at State Farm Arena. (Reminder: this is false)
* In Michigan 700,000 more ballots were counted than sent to voters and were quadruple counted. (Reminder: this is false)
* Ruby Freeman, Shaye Moss, and unindicted man were "quite obviously surreptitiously passing around USB ports as if they're vials of heroin or cocaine" at State Farm Arena to be used to "infiltrate the crooked Dominion voting machines." (Reminder this is false. Rudy even admitted he lied about Ruby and Shaye.)
* 96,600 mail-in ballots counted in Georgia even though they were not returned to an elections office. (Reminder: this is false)
This was an act of racketeering.

We'll move on to Dec 11 in a later post.

Source of notes is the Georgia Indictment pages 33-34. DocumentCloud

 

[Vern]

I don't believe anyone will take a plea on this one because it is so obviously politically motivated it truly disgusts me. I'm an Independent voter.

If anything, it is going to help Trump raise money and it won't surprise me if he is the Republican nominee. smh.

I don't know. If I was a Georgian who owned one of those 10 800 votes he was trying to disenfranchise (all evidence of which is recorded on call) by not counting 'them' or by finding 10 801 more votes for him, I'd be pretty happy to see my state holding him accountable for his criminal actions and would find it disgusting if they failed to act to protect my vote and my voting rights.

Attempted armed robbery is still a crime even if one gets away without a dime.

He is not special.

 

[passionflower]

Just a thought….. was trumps first presidential race rigged also and never caught? Then if his title was revoked as president, he would just be a regular politician going to jail. MOO

 

[Vern]

This Cathy Latham?

On Jan. 7, 2021, Hampton and another Coffee County elections official, Cathy Latham, allegedly helped Trump’s operatives access voting systems, according to documents, testimony and surveillance video reviewed by CNN. Security footage showed that Latham, who also served as a fake elector, escorted Sullivan Strickler experts into a Georgia elections office hours ahead of the breach. That evidence is part of a civil lawsuit pertaining to election security in Georgia. When giving a deposition in the suit, Latham had claimed she “didn’t go into the office,” but footage shows she spent four hours in the office that day, including going into and out of the area where Sullivan Strickler forensics experts were working, an area that was not covered by surveillance cameras. Latham even posed for a selfie with one of the operatives.

Texts and Emails Link Trump Allies to Georgia Voting Systems Breach: Report

Text messages and emails connect Rudy Giuliani and other Trump allies to a voting systems breach in Coffee County, Georgia.

www.rollingstone.com

I dunno--doesn't really sound like true belief that something was amiss with the voting machines to me.

Uhmmm yeah; thats far more serious stuff than originally implied. Now I get why she was charged too - she's more than just an innocent retired bystander.

 

[Reasonable & Just]

Just a thought….. was trumps first presidential race rigged also and never caught? Then if his title was revoked as president, he would just be a regular politician going to jail. MOO

I doubt it. The electoral college was definitely in his favor, and he generated lots of excitement in those key states. His own actions cost him that excitement and advantage the second time around. JMO.

 

[Vern]

So does he really still believe this election was rigged? There's no way he is this blatantly oblivious and obtuse.

But he's got to keep the graft fundraising going you know ...

 

[anneg]

For those reading the Georgia indictment along with me, I'm continuing. I'm still on Count 1, which is the big RICO Act Violation count that all 19 defendants are charged with. There are 161 acts under this count, and I'm picking up progress here:

43. Dec 8, 2020: Trump called George Attorney General Chris Carr to make false statements about election fraud in GA and elsewhere. Trump asked Carr not to discourage other state attorneys general from joining federal lawsuit filed by Texas. The lawsuit contested elections in GA, MI, PA, WI. (Reminder note: this lawsuit was tossed out because TX did not have standing to bring the case, duh. I'll link a source below.)

44. Dec 8, 2020: Trump and John Eastman (Trump lawyer) called RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel to ask her to help gather individuals to cast electoral votes for Trump on Dec 14 in certain states, despite Trump losing the election in those states.

45. Dec 8, 2020: Michael Roman (Trump campaign official) texted unindicted co-conspirator #4 that he had talked to Misty Hampton (Coffee County, Georgia elections supervisor). He asked #4 to get Misty to attend a hearing before the GA House of Representatives Government Affairs Committee on Dec 10.

These notes are from page 30. The actual GA indictment is here:

23SC188947 - CRIMINAL INDICTMENT

www.documentcloud.org

Source regarding Texas lawsuit that was quickly rejected: U.S. Supreme Court throws out Texas lawsuit contesting 2020 election results in four battleground states

I love what you are doing here and appreciate your annotations!

I read the indictment yesterday but started skipping through at some point, so it's helpful to have it broken down into smaller chunks.

 

[MrsWatson]

I think it's worth noting that none of these false electors were political neophytes. They all had years of experience with political campaigns. None of this "I didn't know" is going to fly, imo. They weren't randomly pulled from the street.

 

[BritsKate]

If they can’t shut down the investigation, Trump’s defenders are pushing for pardon — including through a plan for Georgia Republicans redo their state’s entire pardon process to benefit Trump.

For the former president, the situation seems especially dire in Georgia, where state law provides the state board of pardons and parole has the sole responsibility to grant pardons. But MAGA activists want GOP state lawmakers to change the law and have Republican Gov. Brian Kemp — a frequent target of Trump’s ire — pardon the former president.

Trump's Allies Scramble for Ways to Shut Down Georgia Probe

It's a sign of MAGAworld's growing angst over the former president's legal woes

www.rollingstone.com

I guess if you can't win by the rules at play the only thing left is to rip up the rulebook. Some of the other 'novel' legal theories floated to Trump described in the article are perpetual presidential immunity and asking the Supreme Court to intervene to quash the investigation citing Willis lacks authority to prosecute him - what happened to States rights?

 

[Vern]

As a far away observer, I applaud Willis for having the guts to take on DT and his criminal attorneys.

If the attempts to overthrow the GA election results had not been properly addressed via these indictments, democracy would suffer a large blow. imo

I (and others) am really concerned about democracy in the US since the advent of DT in politics. The rest of the western world has been quietly waiting to see if the US is going to do the right thing, or if it is going to allow a high profile (alleged) criminal to skip the consequences of his actions.

I agree.

If this merely were a "political persecution & prosecution", we could/would see DT and his co-conspirators facing:

11 779 individual counts each of election interferance for each and every single vote they attempted to disenfranchise.

“I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have,” Mr. Trump said during the conversation, according to a recording first obtained by The Washington Post, which published it online Sunday. The New York Times also acquired a recording of Mr. Trump’s call.

Trump, in Taped Call, Pressured Georgia Official to ‘Find’ Votes to Overturn Election (Published 2021)

The president vaguely warned of a “criminal offense” as he pressured Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger in the call, according to an audio recording.

www.nytimes.com

It's nice to see some accountability beginning for those who would conspire to "uncount" the votes of 11 779 Amercian citizens.

 

[Inthedetails]

I love what you are doing here and appreciate your annotations!

I read the indictment yesterday but started skipping through at some point, so it's helpful to have it broken down into smaller chunks.

Thanks - it honestly helps my brain absorb info if I can work with it with my hands (like with typing).

I appreciate the indictment is presented in chronological order, at least for Count 1 where I still am, but I think I need to go back later (for myself) and categorize as it does get all jumbled together and there are so many people to remember.

And, to think, this isn't even everything. It is just what a DA in GA could prosecute. There are other places where crimes were committed by the defendant during his candidacy, term in office, and after he left (other places besides FL, DC and NY, that is).

It's overwhelming to realize this man was in the White House.

jmo

 

[vls12345]

PHOTOS: Fulton County Jail gets ready for Georgia election investigation defendants

www.wsbtv.com

 

[BritsKate]

Don’t forget the cover (and endorsement by his voters) to keep engaging in sweet, sweet crime. JMO

And money. Bribes, corrupt business deals, dark money, PACs - I honestly believe the most financially successful time in his whole life was the inaugural and presidential era.

 

[vls12345]

Attorney weighs in on typical booking process at Fulton County jail

All eyes are on Fulton County after 19 people, including former President Donald Trump, were indicted Monday night.

www.11alive.com

Typically, those accused report to the Fulton County Jail for processing. But in high profile cases, there have been exceptions made, allowing defendants to pre-negotiate terms of their surrender. 11Alive Investigates reached out to the district attorney’s office to find out if any of the defendants have requested permission to resolve paperwork and bond terms in advance, but didn't get response.

Tuesday evening the Fulton County Sheriff's Office said that based on guidance received from the DA's office and presiding judge, it is expected that all 19 defendants named in the indictment will be booked at the Rice Street Jail.

[snip]

We did exchange emails with the attorney for Kenneth Chesebro, one of the people named in the indictment for his alleged role in the fake elector scheme. He said he was trying to coordinate with the DA’s office, but has not yet received a response.

Defendants prefer to work details out in advance because attorneys familiar with the booking process say it can take 12 hours to a day to get through.

 

[anneg]

Thanks - it honestly helps my brain absorb info if I can work with it with my hands (like with typing).

I appreciate the indictment is presented in chronological order, at least for Count 1 where I still am, but I think I need to go back later (for myself) and categorize as it does get all jumbled together and there are so many people to remember.

And, to think, this isn't even everything. It is just what a DA in GA could prosecute. There are other places where crimes were committed by the defendant during his candidacy, term in office, and after he left (other places besides FL, DC and NY, that is).

It's overwhelming to realize this man was in the White House.

jmo

IMO, it was and continues to be a great national tragedy that he was in the White House. The various indictments and his promises of vengeance in a second term reflect that. We can't allow him to have such power again. MOO