GA GA - Jane, 45, Isabela, 19, & Anabelle Kuria, 16, Powder Springs, 1 Aug 2007

[sherri79]

You guys are awesome....this morning they said the little boy Jeremy K is being held UNDER PROTECTION...and they are withholding the autopsy results...

http://http://www.wsbtv.com/news/13797098/detail.html

no idea why but the link didnt work for me. i went to the first link in the thread and it gave me access to the story. thanks for the update lola.

 

[Lola]

sherri...there are two http's....I need more coffee, obviously!!

here it is again http://www.wsbtv.com/news/13797098/detail.html

This one should work!!

 

[Lola]

More from the Atlanta JC

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/cobb/stories/2007/08/01/AP_GA__TripleHomicide_N0184.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab

 

[Bobbisangel]

It sounds like it was the little boy that belonged to the mother that was also a main target as one boy suffered forced blunt trauma. The son is in the worst condidtion so I would gather it was him that suffered the trauma. It sounds like someone targeted this whole family. Whoever it was must have thought he/they killed the little boy too.

Why would someone target the whole family? Someone related to them? It just seems like the whole family were the focus. Who would set out to murder a whole family but someone related to them or someone who was a family friend or somehow intertwined with this family? It's just odd to me that all of the family was the focus or that is what it seems like anyway.

I how the little cousin is able to give LE details that help find the person/people that did this. It seems that he would have seen the killers. Hopfully we will hear of an arrest soon. I hope LE is guarding the cousin also because he is the one who is the worst threat to the killers at the moment.

 

[Bobbisangel]

Did the father die in Africa? Was he killed?

All I have read so far was that the father had passed away. It didn't sound like he was murdered or anything.

 

[concernedperson]

This is shocking information. It seems Jane Kuria was asking for asylum in the US because of mutilation of female genitalia. Her husband was targeted and died in kenya.http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/me...pleweb_0803.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab

 

[Lola]

This is shocking information. It seems Jane Kuria was asking for asylum in the US because of mutilation of female genitalia. Her husband was targeted and died in kenya.http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/me...pleweb_0803.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab

This must have been some family member who thought she had brought dishonor to the family. Remember this guy -- UGH

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_Adem

 

[Bobbisangel]

The judge didn't believe Jane and was going to send her and the children back to Kenya??? Her statements were inconsistant???? I would take my children and run too if someone wanted to do something like that to my daughters.

It sounds like the death of this whole family has something to do with their culture. Like someone said....maybe not allowing this to happen to her daughters did bring dishonor to the family and someone decided to take care of all of them. Or maybe whoever destroyed the home in Kenya and caused the death of the husband did this to the family.

 

[catsmeow]

Oh my!!!!! This is such a sad story already. To think that this woman came here because she was seeking to protect her daughters from genital mutilation and that she, herself had been a victim of it and that she'd been turned down for asylum and now they are ALL dead...this is beyond sad. It said in the article that she fled after her husband died and her home was destroyed, so it sounds like she was truly fleeing!

 

[SewingDeb]

Family members want to take the surviving boys back to Kenya. : (

 

[catsmeow]

Family members want to take the surviving boys back to Kenya. : (

I hope they don't, especially when this is where the mom was trying to seek asylum from to BEGIN with! I'd be taking a close look at family members right now, jmo. Mom was trying to get away from there.

 

[SewingDeb]

Yeah, that's what worries me.

 

[Edwards20]

This is shocking information. It seems Jane Kuria was asking for asylum in the US because of mutilation of female genitalia. Her husband was targeted and died in kenya.http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/me...pleweb_0803.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab

This has bothered me since I read it. I looked back at the neighbor's post on the other site and her comment about them being "exposed". I also read of someone saying that if it was a "culture crime", the boys would have been targeted. After hearing LE speak last night on the news, I am convinced that this is what happened to these girls. LE stated that they would not release cause of death because it is "pertinent" to the investigation. Anyone else thing this is a possibility ?

 

[Lola]

Edwards20, first of all thanks for bringing the neighbor's comments here. From what I have read about FGM I cannot understand why the boys would be targeted unless it is only to show others in the community that breaking ranks will not be tolerated. The fact that Jane's husband died (and I would be guessing he was either murdered or harrassed to such an extent that he died as a result) and their home was "lost", sounds to me like there are some pretty powerful and very angry people back in the Kenyan community. Interestingly enough many times it is the women who are the worst offenders in this arena. So Jane's or her husband's family could be involved.

This whole issue is horrific and I hope, if nothing else, this starts to get it out in the open and dealt with. It's a problem in the UK as well. Just because someone gets a new passport and a new life doesn't necessarily mean they leave all their culture -- for better or worse, behind.

I hope that at the very least her church and the Kenyan community get behind what she was trying to do and make others aware.

 

[catsmeow]

This is horrible. If the COD is pertinant, that says a lot. I am worried for these young boys.

It is very frightening that she was stalked and sought after even after she left.

 

[concernedperson]

This is horrible. If the COD is pertinant, that says a lot. I am worried for these young boys.

It is very frightening that she was stalked and sought after even after she left.

I agree and have been really disturbed for the boys too. They weren't killed outright but may still die depending on the injuries. Do you think they were beaten to prevent recognition of the perps or were they targeted too and didn't die outright? This is a really upsetting case.

 

[catsmeow]

I agree and have been really disturbed for the boys too. They weren't killed outright but may still die depending on the injuries. Do you think they were beaten to prevent recognition of the perps or were they targeted too and didn't die outright? This is a really upsetting case.

I'm not sure. They may have been left for dead. I also wonder though, since they say that the COD is pertinent, and they have mentioned female mutilation as the reason she was seeking asylum, I wonder if the daughters were not mutilated. Seems like a logical asumption to make if they say it is pertinant? I truly hope these little boys make it. AND I truly hope that they are not sent back to Kenya.

 

[TGIRecovered]

I have no experience looking up court records, but someone needs to publicize the name of the judge who didn't think the threat of genital mutilation was reason enough to grant asylum.
Bill O'Rieley needs to get a hold of this one!

Susan

 

[Edwards20]

Ms Maina, who is a sister-in-law of Mrs Kuria, said she left Kenya for the US shortly after her husband died in 2001.

A former civil servant, Mrs Kuria had worked for many years as a secretary with the Criminal Investigations Department in Kiambu District before resigning. Her husband was an auditor with the Education ministry.

http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/login.asp
I don't think you can read this w/out being registered, but I found this posted on the Paulding.com site.

The neighbor has also confirmed that a grapevine rumor is true ... one of the little boys has a broken neck and may not survive the attack. From what I am reading, the other little boy's mother told another neighbor. Not sure which of the little boys she was referring to, but the OP neighbor said it was confirmed by an "authority figure".

The neighbor also posted this regarding a TV interview with the victim's immigration attorney:

On the noon interview, he said that at one time, her husband had belonged to a violent sect, but that he had left them. They tried to persuade him to come back, but he refused. So, to coerce him, they kidnapped her (mind you--she was already a grown woman with three children) and forced her to have the procedure (mutilation) done. Once she was returned to her family, they were threatening the daughters as well, so she fled with the children, and they subsequently murdered her husband.

http://www.newcovenant.com/Projects/Kenya/GeneralInformation/tabid/161/Default.aspxThis link was posted there as well. I have pasted some of the highlights here.

Kenyan Cultural Background In Kenya, the culture is still heavily influenced by age-old male-dominated tribal traditions. (This is true of most third-world countries.) What happens when a Kenyan woman's husband dies?
Land in Kenya is owned by the husband. The husband's family holds first claim to his lands and goods. When a man dies, if he has living brothers, those brothers can (and usually do) lay claim to all his possessions. If he has no brothers, yet has a living father, the father can lay claim. So except in pretty rare circumstances, a man's wife loses everything when he dies-- land, home, and everything but her unquestionably personal possessions. She may even lose all rights to key decisions about her children, or even her rights to child custody. However, since raising children takes extra responsibility, she is usually left with all responsibility for the care, education, and feeding of any children.
Remarriage is usually out of the question, particularly if the woman is a Christian. By tribal tradition, she is expected to return to her husband's home village. If she is to remarry, she is expected to marry one of her husband's brothers to continue the family line. This is the tradition, even if all the brothers are already married. I cannot say with absolute authority that this one point is true of all African tribes, but it is certainly true of those I met-- They are traditionally polygamous. That is, one man may have many wives. This becomes a real stumbling-block if the widow is a Christian. She must make a decision. She may either submit to the tribal tradition, or stand against it. If she chooses to stand against tradition, she will face harassment for a time. Hopefully this will quiet down after months or years. In some cases, though, no matter where she moves she is hunted and pursued by her husband's family.
If she not only defies tradition by not returning to marry a brother-in-law, but also chooses to remarry outside of the family or tribe, matters can become worse. In this case, her husband's family will usually lay their claim to her children. They will insist that her children be given to them to be raised in the husband's family, rather than under a new father from a different family. The intensity of harrassment now becomes very heated, and often leads to violence.
So in all but the rarest of situations, a widow remains a widow. Remarriage is simply way too costly.

 

[Lola]

Jane was clearly one determined and brave woman. I certainly hope they catch whoever is responsible. This is an outrage on so many levels.