GUILTY GA - Rusty Sneiderman shot to death at Dunwoody preschool, 18 Nov 2010 #5

[cubbeegirl]

Welcome to Websleuths. As an attorney, I can say there is overwhelming, compelling evidence of an affair. It appears you are equating her role in her relationship with Hemy with a domestic violence or sexual harassment victim. It's not a DV relationship unless she had an affair with the guy and while he used his position of power, there is no evidence of abuse. There would definitely be evidence of sexual harassment but for the fact that AS reciprocated, became voluntarily physical with him and was "flattered" by his attention.

Let's cut through the nonsense. This woman lied for her boss after he murdered her husband. She lied to police and lied under oath. The only reason she would be protecting him then is if she had knowledge Of the plan to get rid of her husband.

Regarding hatred toward her? Well, most human beings tend to loathe people
who so horribly betray the trust of one's spouse, the person who shares their bed, such that they, at the least, stay silent as their affair plots to kill their unsuspecting spouse. That does indeed tend to upset most reasonable humans.

Great post ! :clap::clap::clap::

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

I did not hear that. I heard her say she wish she had read them.. I did not hear her say she deleted them.

I just listened to the closing arguments.
Some things there I had not heard before. I did not see the actual emails and messages though. Just the prosecutor talking about them.

I see big leaps people are making. People taking things and fitting in a way that works for them.

I think the thing the bothers me is that she called hemy that morning of Rusty's death. I still don't think that makes her complicit but it does not bode well.

I just have never seen such a to do about someone possibly lying about the nature of their relationship.
I can see this in a few ways and have no clear conclusion yet.[/QUOT

The big "to do" is that everything she lied about had to do with the investigation of the murder of her HUSBAND! You are not looking at the end game. Why did she lie when she should be doing everything possible to help them catch a murderer of someone she says she dearly loved?
Is her image or reputation more important than getting justice for Rusty? :banghead:[/quote]

I think she could have been lying about some things just because she did not want this all to come out. Who wants to admit that they made mistakes and how ugly it will all look true or not.

I believe that HN was obsessed with her.

Her lawyer said in his case that AS told LE about Hemy. When was that? Does anyone have a date? She says she told LE also.

 

[seattlechiquita]

Do you all sometimes wonder if friends of convicted felons join WS right after verdict to have a 5 minute chance to cackle? Of course the question is totally hypothetical, could apply to any case, and stuff.... :seeya:

 

[tezi]

I think she could have been lying about some things just because she did not want this all to come out. Who wants to admit that they made mistakes and how ugly it will all look true or not.

I believe that HN was obsessed with her.

Her lawyer said in his case that AS told LE about Hemy. When was that? Does anyone have a date? She says she told LE also.[/quote]

BBM: Yes, the convicted liar "says" she told LE. I take that with a big pile of salt.

 

[seattlechiquita]

I think she could have been lying about some things just because she did not want this all to come out. Who wants to admit that they made mistakes and how ugly it will all look true or not.

I believe that HN was obsessed with her.

Her lawyer said in his case that AS told LE about Hemy. When was that? Does anyone have a date? She says she told LE also.[/quote]

Scarlett! :wave:

I followed both HN and AS respective trials. You know I am pretty darn impartial and compassionate, even when it gains me the ill will of my fellow posters (see Jodi Arias trial, yikes!). I can tell you that there is nothing in AS entire story that rings true; and much in the evidence against her that are facts.

Since the trial is over, I will not go into detail with your questions; but I can tell you that from what I was presented as evidence, I would have also convicted.

I do not believe or am convinced she conspired to commit murder; but I do know she manipulated HN, not the other way around. This was an unstable man she helped tip over. And the evidence proves so.

Good to see you my friend!

 

[cubbeegirl]

BBM: Yes, the convicted liar "says" she told LE. I take that with a big pile of salt.

I believe AS as much as I believe JA or CA ...:floorlaugh:

 

[gitana1]

The big "to do" is that everything she lied about had to do with the investigation of the murder of her HUSBAND! You are not looking at the end game. Why did she lie when she should be doing everything possible to help them catch a murderer of someone she says she dearly loved?
Is her image or reputation more important than getting justice for Rusty? :banghead:

The fact that this woman lied after her husband was killed and during the investigation into his murder and the trial of his murderer, tells me she was worried about much more than her reputation.

That is just hemy's words and don't carry much weight for me. I believe that he had a lot more going on in his head that what was going on in reality.

No, they are not just Hemy's words. They are her own. It was her own words in her own e-mail stating, "I know that I have to repent and live with it for the rest of my life... I'm not sure how to live with this." And also, it was an email Hemy wrote to Sneiderman in which he stated: "Besides the birth of Tom and Lee, that was the most beautiful, most wonderful experience of my life." What, just hanging out? Why wouldn't AS have responded, if this was a delusional fantasy on Hemy's part, "What are you talking about?"

And the text messages in which she states she has shamed her family and that "it's over"?

Let me put it this way, anyone who would not stop ALL sex with their spouse and get an AIDS test after seeing their spouse send and receive such messages to and from a third party, will definitely, definitely be "the last to know".

And this is coming from me, a person who has not a jealous bone in her body and rarely ever thinks about the possibility of her mate having an affair. I'm not that type of person.

Finally, why the heck would she lie under oath at her beloved husband's murder trial and to the police during the investigation if she had done nothing wrong?

This is a pretty clear cut and obvious case. Sometimes common sense just needs to prevail. :twocents:

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Scarlett! :wave:

I followed both HN and AS respective trials. You know I am pretty darn impartial and compassionate, even when it gains me the ill will of my fellow posters (see Jodi Arias trial, yikes!). I can tell you that there is nothing in AS entire story that rings true; and much in the evidence against her that are facts.

Since the trial is over, I will not go into detail with your questions; but I can tell you that from what I was presented as evidence, I would have also convicted.

I do not believe or am convinced she conspired to commit murder; but I do know she manipulated HN, not the other way around. This was an unstable man she helped tip over. And the evidence proves so.

Good to see you my friend!

Thanks for this post! I will be taking a closer look now that I know where to look. I appreciate your thoughts and conclusions!

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

I believe AS as much as I believe JA or CA ...:floorlaugh:

Don't get crazy now..

 

[gitana1]

I think she could have been lying about some things just because she did not want this all to come out. Who wants to admit that they made mistakes and how ugly it will all look true or not.

I believe that HN was obsessed with her.

Her lawyer said in his case that AS told LE about Hemy. When was that? Does anyone have a date? She says she told LE also.

BBM.

Someone whose husband was just murdered. That's who. At that point, all thoughts of decorum and reputation fly out the window amidst the utter horror and devastation of having one's mate annihilated. One certainly doesn't sit there and head bob and snap at the people trying to put away the murderer. Oh, and continue to lie, all the while being aggressively and nastily defensive.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

The fact that this woman lied after her husband was killed and during the investigation into his murder and the trial of his murderer, tells me she was worried about much more than her reputation.



No, they are not just Hemy's words. They are her own. It was her own words in her own e-mail stating, "I know that I have to repent and live with it for the rest of my life... I'm not sure how to live with this." And also, it was an email Hemy wrote to Sneiderman in which he stated: "Besides the birth of Tom and Lee, that was the most beautiful, most wonderful experience of my life." What, just hanging out? Why wouldn't AS have responded, if this was a delusional fantasy on Hemy's part, "What are you talking about?"

And the text messages in which she states she has shamed her family and that "it's over"?

Let me put it this way, anyone who would not stop ALL sex with their spouse and get an AIDS test after seeing their spouse send and receive such messages to and from a third party, will definitely, definitely be "the last to know".

And this is coming from me, a person who has not a jealous bone in her body and rarely ever thinks about the possibility of her mate having an affair. I'm not that type of person.

Finally, why the heck would she lie under oath at her beloved husband's murder trial and to the police during the investigation if she had done nothing wrong?

This is a pretty clear cut and obvious case. Sometimes common sense just needs to prevail. :twocents:

Im just saying that I understand how people are making the leap there but my life experience shows me the guilt some people can feel over what would seem like minute details to some.

I don't know what she meant. It could be just as you say, But I don't know.

She is certainly not a likable person. I would not like this woman as a friend.

On a side note I do like the prosecutor. I was just watching him on HLN.

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Example:
Joe lied about a key he had in his pocket. So what? What's the big deal about lying about what's in your pocket?
It so happened a car was stolen that used the key in his pocket.
Does the lie become more important now?
What happens if a stolen car matching the description of the one that used the key Joe had in his pocket killed another family with his car?
Is the lie about what was in Joe's pocket just a lie about the contents of his pocket?
BIG picture thinking.

 

[JusticeJunkie]

I think she could have been lying about some things just because she did not want this all to come out. Who wants to admit that they made mistakes and how ugly it will all look true or not.

I believe that HN was obsessed with her.

Her lawyer said in his case that AS told LE about Hemy. When was that? Does anyone have a date? She says she told LE also.

Did you happen to watch the trial?
Did you watch the Hemy Neuman trial?

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Scarlett, I take full responsibility for making our posts look as if we are writing to ourselves. I messed up ONE quote, and look what it caused! lol friend

 

[CarolinaMoon]

Not to mention the hundreds of photos of her children she sent to HN. Did he harass her into doing that?

Funny you should mention those pictures. I'm listening to HLN (I know, I know, I'm a masochist of sorts.) Two little things keep hitting me as strange in AS's testimony today.

#1 Was that, when talking about the "unwanted" advances from Hemy, she said that she thought she could "handle him."

Was she balancing the flattery and possible job advancement by manipulating his feelings? We learned in the other trial that she would be all warm and fuzzy with him on trips and get his hopes up. Once home, she would give him the, "I'll never divorce my husband." and "I have others that need me." lines.

#2 When she spoke about the photographs, she referred it to it as a move that "boomeranged" on her. Did she really think that sending the man over 100 pictures of her "happy family" would make him see they needed her more? Instead, she possibly fed into Hemy's belief that she wanted him to love her children as well?

Just some musings...

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

HA! I thought it was just me. The whole system seems to be wonky today!

I did watch most of the HN trial. And I did watch opening and days of this trial along with closings..

It was just not possible to watch the whole thing.. I will get to it if it is online.

I am not saying this lady is a saint, I just have issues a lot of time with little details that seem to get thrown into the " She did this she must have done that" category.

I don't mean to annoy. I just need to see it through my way..

 

[jking]

BBM.

Someone whose husband was just murdered. That's who. At that point, all thoughts of decorum and reputation fly out the window amidst the utter horror and devastation of having one's mate annihilated. One certainly doesn't sit there and head bob and snap at the people trying to put away the murderer. Oh, and continue to lie, all the while being aggressively and nastily defensive.

I love your posts gitana! Thank you. I couldn't agree with you more. :tyou:

 

[atthelake]

Two months from now eligible for parole !?

http://m.ajc.com/news/news/local/andrea-sneiderman-sentenced-to-five-yeas-in-jail/nZTHr/

 

[MeeBee]

Funny you should mention those pictures. I'm listening to HLN (I know, I know, I'm a masochist of sorts.) Two little things keep hitting me as strange in AS's testimony today.

#1 Was that, when talking about the "unwanted" advances from Hemy, she said that she thought she could "handle him."

Was she balancing the flattery and possible job advancement by manipulating his feelings? We learned in the other trial that she would be all warm and fuzzy with him on trips and get his hopes up. Once home, she would give him the, "I'll never divorce my husband." and "I have others that need me." lines.

#2 When she spoke about the photographs, she referred it to it as a move that "boomeranged" on her. Did she really think that sending the man over 100 pictures of her "happy family" would make him see they needed her more? Instead, she possibly fed into Hemy's belief that she wanted him to love her children as well?

Just some musings...

This is just my opinion, but I do believe that was apart of her manipulating Hemy into killing Rusty. Get him to fall for her and give him just enough that he becomes obsessed/infatuated and then pull away, citing her marriage to get Hemy mad at Rusty and want him out of the way. She played the 'I love you but I can't leave my family game.' Make him believe she wants to be with him but her family is in the way. Even the "I have shamed my family, I shall burn in hell" emails are dripping with that fake Andrea drama.

 

[cubbeegirl]

Two months from now eligible for parole !?

http://m.ajc.com/news/news/local/andrea-sneiderman-sentenced-to-five-yeas-in-jail/nZTHr/

:banghead::banghead::banghead: