If you read o
In the federal regulations, it is illegal to sell ammunition for a HAND GUN to a person under twenty-one years old. This is clearly stated on the ATF page. It also states federal law trumps local law.
My reply got a little garbled. Some states DO NOT have a restriction. Federal law should be followed.
You're correct on Federal law. Handgun ammo is not to be sold to folks otherwise legally able to purchase who are under 21 years old.
I’m not disagreeing. Under GA law, the vendor doesn’t have to keep a record of sales.
Thank you for your patience and explanation. I think I understand your assertion about the ammunition, it was clearly purchased illegally and may have been mailed illegally because the age requirement outlined by the ATF, stating authorized dealers cannot ship ammunition to individuals the know or reasonably believe are 21 or older. Makes me wonder if it was an authorized dealer, and what requirements do they have when shipping ammunition? Are IDs required and verified? I have never bought ammunition online nor had it shipped to me. So I would love to hear any experience or information on how licenced dealers of ammunition actually verify the age requirement. Do they just ask you if you are over 21 and that's it? Seems like that's faulty.
Yes. Many years ago I came across a scene where a man in his 20's had just jumped off a bridge to the ice below. Etched in my memory is the picture of his bright red blood spreading over the white snow below. I searched for his obituary later and found that his twin brother had died exactly one year before. He felt he could not live without him and had chosen to die on the same day a year later. I started writing a letter to the young man's parents, but then stopped because I felt I had nothing comforting to say to them.
Well said ChatteringBirds.
For me, this is the most important comment on young adults and suicide. I can remember back to that age and thinking on and off in the general direction of suicide, shall we say. And often I just wanted to disappear, earth - please swallow me up. Things seemed impossible, mountains and hurdles to get over, shame to live through. And years and decades to somehow manage, if I weren't to disappear.
There are many online places to purchase both guns and ammo. Guns must be shipped to an FFL, but ammo will be shipped straight to the home. I don't recall being asked to provide proof of age or anything else from the place I've purchased ammo.If you read o
In the federal regulations, it is illegal to sell ammunition for a HAND GUN to a person under twenty-one years old. This is clearly stated on the ATF page. It also states federal law trumps local law.
Does a customer have to be a certain age to buy firearms or ammunition from a licensee? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Yes. Under the Gun Control Act (GCA), shotguns and rifles, and ammunition for shotguns or rifles may be sold only to individuals 18 years of age or older. All firearms other than shotguns and rifles, and all ammunition other than ammunition for shotguns or rifles may be sold only to individuals...www.atf.gov
Shippers follow federal law.
There’s lots of info on the web about how easy it is for an underage person may purchase ammo via the web.
Yes, there’s a lot about ammo on websites & how easy it is to sell. Some sellers, according to this article, have the ange information in the terms & conditions section that the purchaser marks they’ve read.
There seems to be quite a few jumpers in the area where I live, usually from a parking deck. And they jump during business & school hours when folks are walking on the sidewalks. It may be that’s when they have easy access to the deck. I think that would be my least favorite way when I hear about it.
Well said.
Hi everyone,View attachment 571278
Qaadir and Naazir Lewis, both 19, were found shot to death Saturday morning by a hiker at the summit of Bell Mountain, near the North Carolina border.
“How did they end up out in the mountains? They don’t hike out there, they’ve never been out there,” Brawner said. “They don’t know anything about Hiawassee, Georgia. They never even heard of Bell Mountain, so how did they end up right there?”
The GBI stated that their preliminary findings suggest a murder-suicide, but the family strongly disputes that conclusion.
“We knew right away that wasn’t true,” Brawner said.
Twin brothers miss their flight to Boston, found dead 24 hours later in Georgia mountains
Qaadir and Nazir Lewis' bodies were found on Bell Mountain. Their family disputes GBI's initial murder-suicide ruling, insisting the twins wouldn’t hurt each other.www.wltx.com
And 1 other thing, why would they go to such a(n) remote; presumably unknown area to them to commit a murder/suicide? Why would they even go through the trouble of book in a flight, paying for the tickets to then travel 90miles from home to commit murder/suicide. People who commit suicide generally don’t make future plans ( as the trip to visit a friend)View attachment 571278
Qaadir and Naazir Lewis, both 19, were found shot to death Saturday morning by a hiker at the summit of Bell Mountain, near the North Carolina border.
“How did they end up out in the mountains? They don’t hike out there, they’ve never been out there,” Brawner said. “They don’t know anything about Hiawassee, Georgia. They never even heard of Bell Mountain, so how did they end up right there?”
The GBI stated that their preliminary findings suggest a murder-suicide, but the family strongly disputes that conclusion.
“We knew right away that wasn’t true,” Brawner said.
Twin brothers miss their flight to Boston, found dead 24 hours later in Georgia mountains
Qaadir and Nazir Lewis' bodies were found on Bell Mountain. Their family disputes GBI's initial murder-suicide ruling, insisting the twins wouldn’t hurt each other.
From other postings based on what the twins family said: uber to airport; only Naazir traveling but both went to airport; flight I think @ 7:00A & missed & rescheduled to next day. Information on whom they were visiting came out recently so it seems like the fam didn’t know about girlfriend, but not certain. There were a lot of twists & turns to figure out timeline.
This would be great information to have...any WS approved sources available?
View attachment 571278
Qaadir and Naazir Lewis, both 19, were found shot to death Saturday morning by a hiker at the summit of Bell Mountain, near the North Carolina border.
“How did they end up out in the mountains? They don’t hike out there, they’ve never been out there,” Brawner said. “They don’t know anything about Hiawassee, Georgia. They never even heard of Bell Mountain, so how did they end up right there?”
The GBI stated that their preliminary findings suggest a murder-suicide, but the family strongly disputes that conclusion.
“We knew right away that wasn’t true,” Brawner said.
Twin brothers miss their flight to Boston, found dead 24 hours later in Georgia mountains
Qaadir and Nazir Lewis' bodies were found on Bell Mountain. Their family disputes GBI's initial murder-suicide ruling, insisting the twins wouldn’t hurt each other.
