GA - Twin brothers miss flight to Boston, found dead 24 hours later in Georgia mountains, 14 Mar 2025

  • #501
One other note this article reveals, which hadn't been previously reported, were details around the original missed flight on Friday. (extracted and bbm)

"That Friday started with plans for Qaadir and Naazir to fly to Boston. According to the family, the GBI told them the twins ordered an Uber to Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport."

"They're supposed to have caught a flight. Early in the morning like 7 a.m. Friday,” Brawner explained. “But the Uber driver got them there late, so they missed their flight.”
That answers my question as to if they were actually in the airport. They did get there. I think the investigation needs all airport footage of the two. and the uber phone records for good measure.
 
  • #502
The airport in Alanta has or had a program where they house homeless people over night. I had the incrediable experience of speaking with a guy there that told me all about it as he bummed smokes and chatted with me. Very interesting to consider the young kids and the LOVE program .
My apologies, but I'm not following. I did look it up but I'm getting the connection. I am shocked reading about the homeless in the airport. I have never had that experience when traveling through that airport. Wow. Nothing I read mentioned a program, just that they were dealing with the issue of over 200 homeless people sheltering. Looks like they have restricted access and made efforts to direct them to services to find alternative options, from what I found.
 
  • #503
This could actually explain the confusion with the boarding passes and their location.

If they got to the airport late, they may have still gone in for check in or security, and rebooked the flight in person. That's a pretty reasonable explanation for why they may have had printed boarding passes. Not sure when or how they went back to get the car though. Guess they decided not to risk it again with Uber?? I assume they still had to pay the driver so I'd be annoyed about wasting the $$. if I had missed a flight already, you bet I'd be at least NEAR the airport for hours in advance.

stood out to me the phrasing though. the Uber made them late? I wonder, was there an accident or emergency? traffic jam? were they running late already and hoping they'd still make it? it would be interesting if they could speak to the driver (if that person recalls) on how the twins were acting or what happened during the ride.

The big question that remains is, at what point after missing and rebooking the flight did they a) decide not to go after all or b) run into trouble?
 
  • #504
One other note this article reveals, which hadn't been previously reported, were details around the original missed flight on Friday. (extracted and bbm)

"That Friday started with plans for Qaadir and Naazir to fly to Boston. According to the family, the GBI told them the twins ordered an Uber to Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport."

"They're supposed to have caught a flight. Early in the morning like 7 a.m. Friday,” Brawner explained. “But the Uber driver got them there late, so they missed their flight.”
Didn’t a family member state that only one of the twins was going to Boston?
 
  • #505
Didn’t a family member state that only one of the twins was going to Boston?
We've heard several different things so, I'm not really sure anymore. There just isn't a lot of info on this one and when info does come out it's either confusing or contradictory IMO.
 
  • #506
My apologies, but I'm not following. I did look it up but I'm getting the connection. I am shocked reading about the homeless in the airport. I have never had that experience when traveling through that airport. Wow. Nothing I read mentioned a program, just that they were dealing with the issue of over 200 homeless people sheltering. Looks like they have restricted access and made efforts to direct them to services to find alternative options, from what I found.
What are you not getting?

The connection between the kids and the homeless? I dont know there is one, I do know that the airport was housing ex inmates over night . I believe Altana to be paying the airport for services of providing shelter to the homeless and newly released inmates. I do know prior to the pandemic it was already a thing ,but when they started releasing people due to the pandemic, the airport assignments got to be a problem. It seemed to be working prior to that. Or helping rather.

Atlanta Airport Used As Shelter For Hundreds Of Houseless People Nightly

I know those kids were at the airport. So I just brought what I know to the thread. It could be irrelevant.
It is called something like the Alanta love program.
 
  • #507
What are you not getting?

The connection between the kids and the homeless? I dont know there is one, I do know that the airport was housing ex inmates over night . I believe Altana to be paying the airport for services of providing shelter to the homeless and newly released inmates. I do know prior to the pandemic it was already a thing ,but when they started releasing people due to the pandemic, the airport assignments got to be a problem. It seemed to be working prior to that. Or helping rather.

Atlanta Airport Used As Shelter For Hundreds Of Houseless People Nightly

I know those kids were at the airport. So I just brought what I know to the thread. It could be irrelevant.
It is called something like the Alanta love program.
I guess I see you are saying that maybe they crossed paths with someone at the airport who may have harmed them but I'm not finding anything online about the Atlanta airport housing inmates or homeless people. That just seems bizarre to me. I have found numerous articles about how they are trying to keep the homeless from taking shelter in the airport. The article you linked mentioned that some would like certain areas of the airport to be public domain, in other words, allow the homeless to live there. From what I read, they are not going for this because "what could go wrong?". This is a liability, IMO, because you are taking some mighty big risks with traveler safety. That airport is already too hard to maintain safely. You have to be on your toes constantly.
 
  • #508
Also if only one was flyig out why did both uber to the airport?
 
  • #509
Wouldn't they have been to the airport early Friday morning? The new surveillance shows them presumably alone together at 1030 pm Friday night.
It sure would help to have autopsy results and approx T.O.D. They were found within 12 hrs of last being seen alive, you should be able to get a pretty accurate result from that time frame.
It would be good to know what made L/E determine it was a murder/Suicide
I'm thinking the info coming out is just really inaccurate at this point, too many convoluted stories.
 
  • #510
Wouldn't they have been to the airport early Friday morning? The new surveillance shows them presumably alone together at 1030 pm Friday night.
It sure would help to have autopsy results and approx T.O.D. They were found within 12 hrs of last being seen alive, you should be able to get a pretty accurate result from that time frame.
It would be good to know what made L/E determine it was a murder/Suicide
I'm thinking the info coming out is just really inaccurate at this point, too many convoluted stories.
I am thinking that the tell tell sign of the gun being recocked after death ,but I dont know what kinda firearm it was or how two well loved 19 year olds got their hands on one. It is 21 to buy a handgun .
 
  • #511
Also if only one was flying out why did both uber to the airport?
Exactly, but at this point who even knows who was flying and who was at the airport, it could make sense that one brother went to pick up the one stranded at the airport.
The luggage was at the door sometime Friday after the missed flight, so whoever was flying did return home after the missed flight.
still not sure about if the luggage was at the door Sat morning or with them in the car, Its tough cause you cant really rely on any info at this point.
 
  • #512
Exactly, but at this point who even knows who was flying and who was at the airport, it could make sense that one brother went to pick up the one stranded at the airport?
Still puts them together , I wish the kid had made his flight. Both those babies gone. It is heartbreaking.
 
  • #513
I am thinking that the tell tell sign of the gun being recocked after death ,but I dont know what kinda firearm it was or how two well loved 19 year olds got their hands on one. It is 21 to buy a handgun .
You would think there would be a gun nearby with ballistics matching the gun and or residue on someones hands.
 
  • #514
Still puts them together , I wish the kid had made his flight. Both those babies gone. It is heartbreaking.
Yes and thats what I feel is the challenge ( for what we know so far) , for every explanation there is also another explanation that fits.
 
  • #515
I guess I see you are saying that maybe they crossed paths with someone at the airport who may have harmed them but I'm not finding anything online about the Atlanta airport housing inmates or homeless people. That just seems bizarre to me. I have found numerous articles about how they are trying to keep the homeless from taking shelter in the airport. The article you linked mentioned that some would like certain areas of the airport to be public domain, in other words, allow the homeless to live there. From what I read, they are not going for this because "what could go wrong?". This is a liability, IMO, because you are taking some mighty big risks with traveler safety. That airport is already too hard to maintain safely. You have to be on your toes constantly.
All the reasons I was shocked to run into in real life. They had banners up and everything, I am about to scour the internet for photo's of Alanta airport ,just to see.
 
  • #516
All the reasons I was shocked to run into in real life. They had banners up and everything, I am about to scour the internet for photo's of Alanta airport ,just to see.
Wow! I haven't traveled through that airport since last fall (2024) and I didn't notice anything like that! That's pretty crazy. I hope they'll rethink this.
 
  • #517
I feel like I'm still not understanding the timeline. I thought they were with family at 10:30 pm but
now they are at the store and who knows? something is giving me pause with the family and I do wonder if they are in some kind of danger because the story doesn't flow...the Police might have it wrong or something behind the scenes is tightly held back for reasons we don't yet know. Like we still don't know what was happening in Boston. We don't know if they ever came back from that store..did they?

mOO
 
  • #518
I feel like I'm still not understanding the timeline. I thought they were with family at 10:30 pm but
now they are at the store and who knows? something is giving me pause with the family and I do wonder if they are in some kind of danger because the story doesn't flow...the Police might have it wrong or something behind the scenes is tightly held back for reasons we don't yet know. Like we still don't know what was happening in Boston. We don't know if they ever came back from that store..did they?

mOO
Yes, a clear timeline is impossible for us to put together at this point. I tried several times to put one together but, every time I thought I was getting close, some new/contradicting/confusing information would come out they totally blew what I had come up with out of the water.
 
  • #519
I guess I see you are saying that maybe they crossed paths with someone at the airport who may have harmed them but I'm not finding anything online about the Atlanta airport housing inmates or homeless people. That just seems bizarre to me. I have found numerous articles about how they are trying to keep the homeless from taking shelter in the airport. The article you linked mentioned that some would like certain areas of the airport to be public domain, in other words, allow the homeless to live there. From what I read, they are not going for this because "what could go wrong?". This is a liability, IMO, because you are taking some mighty big risks with traveler safety. That airport is already too hard to maintain safely. You have to be on your toes constantly.
But it is exactly the kind of place someone could probably "hide out" undetected for a long time, just moving from one area to another. This is such a difficult situation to wrap my head around. Two strong young men would have had each other's back, so for them to be overpowered, more than one person, probably more than two, would have been required. Then, there's the issue with the twins' car being on the mountain. IF the twins were inside the airport, how would an attacker know how to find their car. Plus, at least one person harming the twins would have had to have a vehicle as well. Are there no traffic cams that might have caught the twins' vehicle somewhere along the way?

The logistics of others being involved is complicated.
 
  • #520
Yes and thats what I feel is the challenge ( for what we know so far) , for every explanation there is also another explanation that fits.
Interesting. I can't see a single explanation that fits.
 

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