GA - Twin brothers miss flight to Boston, found dead 24 hours later in Georgia mountains, 14 Mar 2025

The Brief​

    • The family of Qaadir and Naazir Lewis, alongside the NAACP and state leaders, is demanding an independent investigation and the release of all evidence, disputing the GBI’s conclusion that the twin brothers' deaths were suicides.
    • At a news conference, the NAACP labeled the deaths a lynching, with attorney Gerald Griggs calling for transparency and warning, "We know what a lynching looks like, we know what it smells like, and we know what a cover-up starts out like."
    • State Rep. Gabe Okoye supported the family’s concerns, stating, "This investigation surely looks like a cover-up. … If you’re going to cover something up, make it believable."
 
Questions:

During the press conference on Friday, a number of questions were asked:

  1. What happened after they left the gas station?
  2. Show us more videos.
  3. Since when does a 19-year-old who just spent money on a plane ticket to see his long-distance girlfriend all of a sudden choose to take his own life?
  4. Did they have a key to the locked gate at the mountain? Did they call authorities or emergency services to unlock the gate? Who unlocked the gate?
  5. Why would two teenage boys, who were described as bad drivers, drive up a curvy, narrow, dark mountain road?
  6. Why were their lifeless bodies positioned in a way that "screams sacrifice"? Why were their bodies arranged like crosses, resembling execution and staging?
  7. Where is the crime scene evidence—such as tape, markers, or a gun?
  8. Why hasn’t all evidence been released to the family? Why does the GBI publicly say the case is closed but privately refuse to release evidence?
  9. If the investigation is closed, why has the GBI not released the complete file?
  10. Why would they travel three hours away to commit suicide rather than doing so at home?


These are the questions being posed by the paternal family.
 
I have found the deaths of these young men hard to fathom and hard to accept. I have no connection to them; they were strangers. And yet I continue to brood about this case, still feel bothered by it. There's just something sticking.

Quantify that by orders of magnitude for the family and friends of Qaadir and Naazir. IMO, it's not hard to understand their need to believe that something nefarious happened to bring the twins to Bell Mountain. The alternative is clearly unbearable.
 
Questions:

During the press conference on Friday, a number of questions were asked:

  1. What happened after they left the gas station?
  2. Show us more videos.
  3. Since when does a 19-year-old who just spent money on a plane ticket to see his long-distance girlfriend all of a sudden choose to take his own life?
  4. Did they have a key to the locked gate at the mountain? Did they call authorities or emergency services to unlock the gate? Who unlocked the gate?
  5. Why would two teenage boys, who were described as bad drivers, drive up a curvy, narrow, dark mountain road?
  6. Why were their lifeless bodies positioned in a way that "screams sacrifice"? Why were their bodies arranged like crosses, resembling execution and staging?
  7. Where is the crime scene evidence—such as tape, markers, or a gun?
  8. Why hasn’t all evidence been released to the family? Why does the GBI publicly say the case is closed but privately refuse to release evidence?
  9. If the investigation is closed, why has the GBI not released the complete file?
  10. Why would they travel three hours away to commit suicide rather than doing so at home?


These are the questions being posed by the paternal family.

some of their questions they'll never get answers to - and the police could not have answers to - many suicide cases don't make sense to those left behind or following them
 
some of their questions they'll never get answers to - and the police could not have answers to - many suicide cases don't make sense to those left behind or following them
Yes, that’s true, several of the answers would be purely speculative at best.

But they asked no questions at all about: the suicide, loading a gun and other related google seaches found in their cell phones , the ammunition delivery to the home, or the gunshot residue found on both their bodies?

I’m sure there is far more evidence, but the GBI is not going to state details publicly out of consideration for Naazir and Quaadir’s privacy - as well as the family. Some could be deeply personal in nature. They offered only enough to qualify the ruling in a media statement, JMO.

I guess its as @Muddy K said, it’s too painful to process right now.
 
It's obvious these young men were very loved and their family is having a hard time accepting the reasons for their deaths. IMO
I do believe that there are a few bad apples in law enforcement that work to cover up departmental misdeeds. How er, I don't believe that is the case. The families biggest question is WHY would the commit suicide.
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But they asked no questions at all about: the suicide, loading a gun and other related google seaches found in their cell phones , the ammunition delivery to the home, or the gunshot residue found on both their bodies?

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I guess its as @Muddy K said, it’s too painful to process right now.
My thoughts exactly. This evidence speaks loudly and simply can't be overlooked.
I have my own thoughts about the NAACP and politicians calling this a lynching, before getting the investigative file.
They are struggling with feeling as if they didn't see any signs and these twins had no reason to commit suicide, MOO.
To better understand, I do hope that a mental health professional as well as family members of others who have taken their own lives, will speak with and counsel the family about the facts of suicide.
And ultimately, I hope once the investigation is fully concluded and they have all of the evidence the FBI used in it's findings, they have answers to many of their questions. 💔😢
 
It appears the man who appears to be conducting the press conference, if I recall he's the twins' uncle, I think he said he viewed the photo(s) of the bodies and suspects they are arranged such that it would be extremely unlikely to NOT have been staged? I got from his words that he maybe was trying to describe the bodies being arranged in a position to resemble a cross, or something? I don't know.

I've always had this hunch in the back of my mind that the trip to Boston, the missed flight, the girlfriend.....something happened with the girlfriend?

Glad to have some other recent input in this thread. I too think the presser was a bit confrontational, but hey, when viewed through the lens of Georgia history, it would behoove GBI and LE to be absolutely forthcoming in communication at this point.
 
It appears the man who appears to be conducting the press conference, if I recall he's the twins' uncle, I think he said he viewed the photo(s) of the bodies and suspects they are arranged such that it would be extremely unlikely to NOT have been staged? I got from his words that he maybe was trying to describe the bodies being arranged in a position to resemble a cross, or something? I don't know.

I've always had this hunch in the back of my mind that the trip to Boston, the missed flight, the girlfriend.....something happened with the girlfriend?

Glad to have some other recent input in this thread. I too think the presser was a bit confrontational, but hey, when viewed through the lens of Georgia history, it would behoove GBI and LE to be absolutely forthcoming in communication at this point.
when can we talk to that girlfriend? I don't think the cops are covering for a lynching, but that the staging was such that the suicide determination is the only option based on what the scene provided.

all of the other evidence is so iffy and open to interpretation that I question the legitimacy of it.

a single search for suicide data for the previous year?
purchase of bullets
how to fire a gun instructions

the family says they were afraid of something...
what was it? a catfish situation? a family member? certain people?
well either way that explains away the gun and the ammo to an extent doesn't it?

so now we are left with the google search and residue.

can we just cart Joe Kenda's a$$ up that mountain and let him sort this mess out?

mOO
 
I do have a question though. Did the girlfriend break up with the twin over the missed flight?

hard to believe that a little squabble leads to a double suicide. but still I am curious. The thing I am most curious about is, why the boys were afraid of something/someone. The family wants to know and I want to know. so if they weren't "lynched", is there a chance this was a carefully constructed
murder done by someone for a reason? mOO
 
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It appears the man who appears to be conducting the press conference, if I recall he's the twins' uncle, I think he said he viewed the photo(s) of the bodies and suspects they are arranged such that it would be extremely unlikely to NOT have been staged? I got from his words that he maybe was trying to describe the bodies being arranged in a position to resemble a cross, or something? I don't know.

I've always had this hunch in the back of my mind that the trip to Boston, the missed flight, the girlfriend.....something happened with the girlfriend?

Glad to have some other recent input in this thread. I too think the presser was a bit confrontational, but hey, when viewed through the lens of Georgia history, it would behoove GBI and LE to be absolutely forthcoming in communication at this point.
Doesn’t the medical examiner/coroner/pathologist make the determination of death? And the GIB has an investigation of the death? It looks like it would have to be a huge conspiracy to “cover up” everything.

I hope this doesn’t spiral out of control with the father’s family claiming a conspiracy and the maternal aunts have subtle accusations towards the father’s family. I would think the family would hire an attorney to interface with the GBI to completely understand what happened or what may be missing.

I do feel for the family, to think they’ve lost two teens at once.
 
looking at so many highly unusual and inexplicable series of events happening on the most unlikely of landscapes with no tangible explanation...I tend to think this is not evidence of suicide right? they are dead so there is evidence of something, there is a gun involved for sure and they did get bullets for a gun. someone searched about suicide data for the previous year. they both had gun residue.
umm ok but you can take a gun and transfer residue to two victim's hands. right?

ok so we have two dead boys on top of a mountain with gunshot residue on their hands, they purchased bullets, they had a gun, the car was found.

I don't really believe it...it's just not good enough. it's not. it's interesting that they can just declare suicide when there is no explanation for the deaths.

if they killed themselves, then walk me through it and tell me why. mOO
What evidence are you specifically looking for? In general, most life insurance policies will refuse to pay out on suicide UNLESS the policy has been effect for two years.
 
I don't think it's insurance on the boys...more likely the husband who had a stroke..there may be benefits, property etc. and specific instructions regarding his sons. right? could be. is there something she might want? what is the father's prognosis? is there a side boy friend? is the father in danger? let's just not ignore it...there needs to be more investigation.
I definitely wasn’t thinking in that direction!
 
when can we talk to that girlfriend? I don't think the cops are covering for a lynching, but that the staging was such that the suicide determination is the only option based on what the scene provided.

all of the other evidence is so iffy and open to interpretation that I question the legitimacy of it.

a single search for suicide data for the previous year?
purchase of bullets
how to fire a gun instructions

the family says they were afraid of something...
what was it? a catfish situation? a family member? certain people?
well either way that explains away the gun and the ammo to an extent doesn't it?

so now we are left with the google search and residue.

can we just cart Joe Kenda's a$$ up that mountain and let him sort this mess out?

mOO
The information the family states is not detailed or specific either - calling for much speculation as to meaning?

You send Joe Kenda out, I’m sending Nate Eaton to Lawrenceville and Bell Mountain!!
 
I do have a question though. Did the girlfriend break up with the twin over the missed flight?

hard to believe that a little squabble leads to a double suicide. but still I am curious. The thing I am most curious about is, why the boys were afraid of something/someone. The family wants to know and I want to know. so if they weren't "lynched", is there a chance this was a carefully constructed
murder done by someone for a reason? mOO
I’m most curious how the family knows they were afraid? Where did that information come from? If you’re going to state you’re afraid to someone, it would seem you would say why. Or the implied reason is understood/deciphered by the parties having the conversation?

The maternal and paternal families are pointing in two different directions. Who is right?
 
Having had a career working with youth of all ages, majority being in a public high school of 1,200+ students, I came to the realization that things simply are not always as they seem with young people.

Teens only reveal what they want to reveal. It's as though they are doing one play, say....Hamlet, and the adults in their lives are doing a different play....Othello.

The teens know the rules of Othello, however, the adults know ONLY that part of Hamlet the teens wish them to see.

This is my take on what went down here in this case. I just don't think the deepest secrets in the lives of these twins are/were and may never be fully known to their families and the other adults who were part of their lives.

I think the truth is likely found in the extreme emotion of youth, anxiety, fear, jealousy, love, desperation, etc. Or possibly something else, something unrelated to emotion....somewhere in the twins' lives there was a piece that was hidden from the adults in their lives.

Though not totally out of the realm of possibility, it simply doesn't appear to me to be a case of lynching. If this was murder, the GBI has totally missed the mark, or is truly corrupt, yes?
 
Having had a career working with youth of all ages, majority being in a public high school of 1,200+ students, I came to the realization that things simply are not always as they seem with young people.

Teens only reveal what they want to reveal. It's as though they are doing one play, say....Hamlet, and the adults in their lives are doing a different play....Othello.

The teens know the rules of Othello, however, the adults know ONLY that part of Hamlet the teens wish them to see.

This is my take on what went down here in this case. I just don't think the deepest secrets in the lives of these twins are/were and may never be fully known to their families and the other adults who were part of their lives.

I think the truth is likely found in the extreme emotion of youth, anxiety, fear, jealousy, love, desperation, etc. Or possibly something else, something unrelated to emotion....somewhere in the twins' lives there was a piece that was hidden from the adults in their lives.

Though not totally out of the realm of possibility, it simply doesn't appear to me to be a case of lynching. If this was murder, the GBI has totally missed the mark, or is truly corrupt, yes?
I was thinking exactly the same thing -- without Shakespeare, which I love BTW. In the closest of families, when kids get to the age where they're out running around with friends and even driving themselves, there is so much going on the families will never know about - even years later (if lucky) when they laugh and share some of those hidden moments. Parents and families never know everything.

In this case, the parents were in two separate households. The one the twins lived in had a severe illness that must have required much of the family's focus. No blame here, just acknowledging that with illness, sometimes that becomes what much of the household revolves around.

Add that to the boys being twins. They had a built-in, lifelong confidant who knew all the secrets. I think the twins were an island in all the family life swirling around them.

Instead of never having heard of Bell Mountain, isn't it possible it was their go-to place when life became overwhelming? The glory of nature in a little used park. Sure, there were many places closer, but in my experience, they were crowded. Even mountain roads with little traffic are safer than the congestion around Lawrenceville.

It's incredibly sad for the family and friends as they attempt to understand. However, I doubt the answers are findable as they were locked inside the twins. And the not knowing will haunt those who loved them.

I don't think the state agency would protect the local LE or hide what the experts believed really happened. Could they be wrong? It does happen occasionally, I would guess, but forensics and training are highly polished in our world today. The experts can put the evidence together in a way that appears to make sense, but the why is probably out of reach.

So incredibly much pain for the family right now. Their family desperately looking for an answer, any answer, is understandable. Naturally, they will look at and examine all angles. So much pain. How I hope they find some peace and the pain abates.
 
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okay so the gate was locked at 8. PM
at 10:30 PM they are seen near home at the store.
the gate doesn't open for parking again until 8 AM?

what did they do after the store?
when did they start driving to Bell M?
what time did they die?


obviously they missed the cutoff for parking. so from 10:30 PM to opening time at the park, what were they doing?

have they figured it out?
the car didn't just manifest itself into the lot.
does everyone have an alibi for that late evening and morning?
did they even question everyone?
if they got there in the morning and were able to park, what time was the lot opened that morning?
and if the got there in the morning, where were they all night?

if they got there in the night how did they get in? was the lock tampered with?
is there a way to get in? mOO
 

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