GA v Hannah Payne - HP allegedly murdering a man involved in a hit-and-run in 2019 *GUILTY*

[CHEL]

This bodycam is awful to watch.

 

[RickshawFan]

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The scene of the initial hit and run at the intersection of Clark Howell and Forest Parkway in College Park, Georgia. No first responders arrived before Kenneth Herring left the scene.




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The site of the shooting, the intersection of Forest Parkway and Riverdale Road, is about one mile west of the scene of the hit-and-run scene. This is the spot where Hannah Payne cut off Kenneth Herring, forcing him to stop.



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Posted at 8:56 PM, December 6, 2023

Look how she must have zoomed around the corner to get in front of him. This is crazy. And that's not a legal turn.

 

[RickshawFan]

Pardon me while I don''t bite my tongue. I can't stand this defense attny and I'm not sure why. There isn't much action on this thread, but again---I can't bite my tongue.

No need to bite your tongue....I'm a kindred spirit. Seems most everyone active here feels much the same way.

 

[RickshawFan]

First day watching this case on Court TV. It is very disheartening see how the detective currently testifying tried to help her. Pictures taken as part of the investigation include Payne's hands and full body shots. The pictures of her hands show her natural nails and what the detective has characterized as some bruising and fingers beginning to swell.
I'm glad the DA inquired pointed out that she wore a different shirt in the picture than when she killed Kenneth. The detective also testified that when Hannah first arrived at the station she had in false nails. Im assuming that she had those nails on when she committed the crime and someone told her to take them off prior to the photos being taken. MOO.
I hope justice is delivered for Kenneth.

They might have needed the fake nails for evidence?

 

[threesevenninefour]

I haven’t had the chance to watch the bodycam footage but that still picture alone is horrifying! She zooms in and cuts him off while he may be in the middle of a medical emergency and then approaches him while he’s sitting in his vehicle with her gun drawn and yelling aggressively?! In what world is that remotely okay? Even IF (allegedly) the victim ended up lunging at her it would be entirely in self-defense, seeing as she approached HIM with a weapon.

I apologize if I seem worked up but it’s just so senseless and scary…

 

[arielilane]

CLAYTON COUNTY, Ga. - Key witnesses for the prosecution took the stand for the third day in the murder trial of Hannah Payne. Payne is accused of following, crashing into, scuffling with, then shooting and killing 62-year-old Kenneth Herring in 2019 after she witnessed him collide with another vehicle.

Cameron Williams, a truck driver, captured images of the encounter between Payne and Herring along Riverdale Road.


"I just seen her outside hitting on her window, or his car door. And that’s what made me just grab my phone," Williams recalled, adding that Payne was standing at the driver’s side door. "Yelling, hitting on the window, hitting on the door."

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Hannah Payne murder trial: Body cam video, witness video introduced during key testimony

Key witnesses for the prosecution took the stand for the third day in the murder trial of Hannah Payne

www.fox5atlanta.com

December 8, 2023 4:55PM


An image showing Hannah Payne’s Jeep crashed into Kenneth Herring pickup truck was entered into evidence in a Clayton County courtroom as part of the murder trial on Dec. 8, 2023 (Supplied)

 

[RickshawFan]

@cathyrusson

Still shot from a cellphone video taken by a bystander of #HannahPayne approaching Kenneth Herring's truck with a gun in her hand.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1733146415134839122

10:28 AM · Dec 8, 2023

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That photo says it all.

If she was worried about getting attacked, she a) needn't have approached, and b) could have taken just one step backwards and been out of attack zone. There's no way Herring could do anything to her with the door closed like that.

As for brandishing that gun....look how wild she is with it.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[RickshawFan]

I haven’t had the chance to watch the bodycam footage but that still picture alone is horrifying! She zooms in and cuts him off while he may be in the middle of a medical emergency and then approaches him while he’s sitting in his vehicle with her gun drawn and yelling aggressively?! In what world is that remotely okay? Even IF (allegedly) the victim ended up lunging at her it would be entirely in self-defense, seeing as she approached HIM with a weapon.

I apologize if I seem worked up but it’s just so senseless and scary…

He had no way to reach her to hit her, because she could have just stepped back. In the context, no self-defense was needed, just backing off.

 

[RickshawFan]

Do we know anything about HP before this incident? Like, who is she?

 

[Kit Carson]

If Herring was acting irrational because he was having a severe sugar crash, he might also have become combative, through no fault of his own (another effect of a sugar crash, common in diabetics). If HP decided this was personal, actually, it had nothing to do with her. She had no business being in the situation which caused her to involve a gun.

I had a diabetic business partner get a massive sugar crash (he was out) in the middle of a presentation and become combative with medics. They really had to be pretty aggressive with him to jam glucose between his teeth. They were familiar with this effect, and didn't take it personally.

IMO when you take a Red Cross first aid course, you should also be taught to recognize situations where you should back off. That, and being made familiar with the aroma of a diabetic crash, which is very specific, and very obvious. I'll bet this could easily have been picked up on Herring.

First of all, the witnesses all said he never said a word and never moved when she was beating him in the chest. I doubt very seriously he was combative especially since he never moved toward her when she was beating him.

I am a diabetic and have experienced hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) several times without any combativeness. I will say, when you begin to sweat all over and your heart begins to beat erratically and you're so light-headed you can't see very well and then your body becomes so weak you can't move, I doubt you will be able to combat anyone. Although, as it begins you can become paranoid and believe others are trying to kill you, but in this case someone was trying to kill him.

Reactions to low blood sugar are widely variable. The odor from a diabetic is a fruity smell or a smell of nail polish caused by ketoacidosis. If you just have low blood sugar you may not have that fruity smell to your breath.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

My opinion hasn't changed. Lock her up and throw away the key. She's a cold-blooded murderer as far as I'm concerned.

JMO.

 

[RickshawFan]

First of all, the witnesses all said he never said a word and never moved when she was beating him in the chest. I doubt very seriously he was combative especially since he never moved toward her when she was beating him.

I am a diabetic and have experienced hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) several times without any combativeness. I will say, when you begin to sweat all over and your heart begins to beat erratically and you're so light-headed you can't see very well and then your body becomes so weak you can't move, I doubt you will be able to combat anyone. Although, as it begins you can become paranoid and believe others are trying to kill you, but in this case someone was trying to kill him.

Reactions to low blood sugar are widely variable. The odor from a diabetic is a fruity smell or a smell of nail polish caused by ketoacidosis. If you just have low blood sugar you may not have that fruity smell to your breath.

I was responding to the defense’s position that he was fighting. My point is that he could have been landing punches for other reasons, not just self-defense (though this would have been justified. One of those reasons could be a diabetic reaction, as his family suggests. My business partner had a diabetic crash. He became unconscious. He became combative. I saw him hitting the ambulance crew with my own eyes. The EMT’s specifically termed it “combative”. HP could easily have misinterpreted this kind of event as aggression, and even for no other reason than the possibility of a medical event (of which she was likely ignorant), the appropriate course was to follow the order of dispatch.

Even Herring’s act of leaving the crash scene could have reflected a diabetic event.

Also, I could almost always smell the diabetic crash aroma before my business partner did. It’s very distinctive. There’s a weird sweat that goes along with it.

I haven’t seen testimony yet that HP was punching him in the chest.

 

[ifindedout]

CLAYTON COUNTY, Ga. - Key witnesses for the prosecution took the stand for the third day in the murder trial of Hannah Payne. Payne is accused of following, crashing into, scuffling with, then shooting and killing 62-year-old Kenneth Herring in 2019 after she witnessed him collide with another vehicle.

Cameron Williams, a truck driver, captured images of the encounter between Payne and Herring along Riverdale Road.


"I just seen her outside hitting on her window, or his car door. And that’s what made me just grab my phone," Williams recalled, adding that Payne was standing at the driver’s side door. "Yelling, hitting on the window, hitting on the door."

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Hannah Payne murder trial: Body cam video, witness video introduced during key testimony

Key witnesses for the prosecution took the stand for the third day in the murder trial of Hannah Payne

www.fox5atlanta.com

December 8, 2023 4:55PM

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An image showing Hannah Payne’s Jeep crashed into Kenneth Herring pickup truck was entered into evidence in a Clayton County courtroom as part of the murder trial on Dec. 8, 2023 (Supplied)

Her front tire looks bald. May not be relevant, but...just saying.

 

[BeachSky]

@cathyrusson

McCranny starts to cry when she hears her 911 call.

11:36 AM · Dec 7, 2023

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These witnesses are so brave.
Even on the LE bodycam footage & cell phone footage so many wonderful people, you can hear them, coming to the defense of the victim.

The defense attorney seemed to badger the witnesses on cross imo

Moo

 

[RickshawFan]

Her front tire looks bald. May not be relevant, but...just saying.

I thought that was strange, too, but then thought perhaps she has balloon tires?

 

[texaslb218]

The defense attorney seemed to badger the witnesses on cross imo

Moo

Yes. MOO. I think that is why I can't stand him. He asked the same questions multiple times getting the same answers. I'm not sure he is very practiced in interviewing or cross...

 

[nodamselindistress]

I just can't understand why she decided to take things into her own hands and act so aggressively towards this victim? Why not let the police handle it? At 21 yrs of age I would have never considered something like this!

Makes no sense to me unless perhaps someone she was close to was killed or injured by a drunk driver - which does not absolve her in the least, but at least would help me understand her extreme over reaction to the situation.

 

[whitelilac]

I just can't understand why she decided to take things into her own hands and act so aggressively towards this victim? Why not let the police handle it? At 21 yrs of age I would have never considered something like this!

Makes no sense to me unless perhaps someone she was close to was killed or injured by a drunk driver - which does not absolve her in the least, but at least would help me understand her extreme over reaction to the situation.

My impression is that she has a narcissistic personality and that she wanted attention to be seen and praised as a hero in apprehending this man herself, in front of witnesses no less.

 

[BeachSky]

Her front tire looks bald. May not be relevant, but...just saying.

Spent her all her money on that gun she was waving around! JMO

Hannah Payne murder trial: Body cam video, witness video introduced during key testimony

Key witnesses for the prosecution took the stand for the third day in the murder trial of Hannah Payne

www.fox5atlanta.com