General Discussion and Theories #3

[Blomquist]

There is not enough meat to that letter to make a 1,000 word column. That's the most likely reason it's not in the news. Interesting to people who would like a chance to analyze DM and a lot of nothing to everyone else.

I do want to point out DM has rather distinctive f's and really regular form in his letters. The descending strokes of his j and g are jug shaped, while he uses a straight stroke to make his y's. Half the time his I's and t's have a curl to the right at the base. Vertical strokes are quite vertical though d's in particular slant left. In short there are a lot of obvious quirks that would make his writing recognizable.

If of course it is his, ..... but even if it was.... the letter is a non starter IMO..... nothing of any importance IMO... JMO

 

[Snoofo]

There is not enough meat to that letter to make a 1,000 word column. That's the most likely reason it's not in the news. Interesting to people who would like a chance to analyze DM and a lot of nothing to everyone else.

I do want to point out DM has rather distinctive f's and really regular form in his letters. The descending strokes of his j and g are jug shaped, while he uses a straight stroke to make his y's. Half the time his I's and t's have a curl to the right at the base. Vertical strokes are quite vertical though d's in particular slant left. In short there are a lot of obvious quirks that would make his writing recognizable.

Au contraire. If someone knows his writing and wants to try a forgery, it is those unique, exaggerated features that would be most forgeable and the first thing a non-expert would look at to compare and verify. They are very obvious quirks, but lets say too obvious. That and the doodles. The proof is in the less obvious features, IYAM.

I know this because I do have an expertise in handwriting and professional calligraphy and I can forge just about anything. :angel:
:takeabow:

 

[SnooperDuper]

Au contraire. If someone knows his writing and wants to try a forgery, it is those unique, exaggerated features that would be most forgeable and the first thing a non-expert would look at to compare and verify. They are very obvious quirks, but lets say too obvious. That and the doodles. The proof is in the less obvious features, IYAM.

I know this because I do have an expertise in handwriting and professional calligraphy and I can forge just about anything. :angel:
:takeabow:

The thing is a forger would aim to make things too uniform and perfect, and not insert quirks like "My closest friends and family stand by my side, which is really all I need" where "need" is written and the rest is printed. Also there are 4 spelling mistakes (highjacked/hijacked, meanningful/meaningful, aquaintance/acquaintance, news paper/newspaper)...I mean if you make 3 mistakes in the first paragraph, it is ok to throw away the paper and start again.

 

[Archangel7]

If of course it is his, ..... but even if it was.... the letter is a non starter IMO..... nothing of any importance IMO... JMO

Most people wouldn't continue to play down the letter if it's so insignificant/not important to them. Over explaining/over emphasizing is something that highlights/encourages further scrutiny and suspicion wrt the subject, in my experience.

Personally, on initial inspection, the letter looks odd, has anomalies, shows controlling/conditional tendencies, and it has been presented as authentic until someone has better proof otherwise, it would seem.

It not only says things to me, I'm sure it does to others. Simply put, DP has ZERO control over his client and/or obviously didn't ADVISE DM about jailhouse letters. Either way it's a negative for the defense.

 

[Snoofo]

The thing is a forger would aim to make things too uniform and perfect, and not insert quirks like "My closest friends and family stand by my side, which is really all I need" where "need" is written and the rest is printed. Also there are 4 spelling mistakes (highjacked/hijacked, meanningful/meaningful, aquaintance/acquaintance, news paper/newspaper)...I mean if you make 3 mistakes in the first paragraph, it is ok to throw away the paper and start again.

Who says forgerers nose how to spell?


:giggle:

Seriously, if anyone has time to start a new draft, it's DM.
Anyone going to such lengths to forge a letter would also be psychotic enough to put in the intentional errors IMO.

Anyway, I doubt we will find out the truth about this and it is even possible DP did ultimately get back to her to say DM has no knowledge of it but its too late she wouldnt report that now since a) makes her look bad and b) nobody really cared for the story anyway. So we can speculate and speculate but why not spend our time sleuthing that incinerator some more :floorlaugh:

 

[Archangel7]

Have you thought the authenticity was not authentic enough for MSM standards?
AB has written for MSM on this case before. How come nobody picked up this particular story from her? Initially she couldnt show it, couldnt authenticate it. After she authenticated it to her own satisfaction (justified by Courts dont require experts comment) and once she posted a copy on her site, MSM still didnt pick up on this. I would think more than one wanted to but the information was not up to standards. Knowing most MSM standards are quite low, this concerns me.

How come Ann's source didnt give up his/her alleged sample of DM's writing so she could have it compared by a pro? I'm sure she'd get the story in print if that were possible. Maybe Ann trusts this person but why should we?

You are asking me to answer for AB. Ask AB, she has a email address, twitter, etc. I have no doubt she would answer what she can or better yet ask MSM yourself why they didn't carry it. Or ask the businessman that said it "was an exact match" if he will provide you with a sample or why he didn't provide AB. I certainly can't answer for them. However I have no evidence they are lying.

I say the letter is authentic based on what has been posted as references.
Anyone else is of course free to post references refuting the authenticity if you can find any. I am open minded to be swayed with proof, but not swayed by continued "it's not authentic" for no other reason than one supports DM's innocence.
I say that sincerely. Show me proof that negates what authenticity has been provided after all it's a forum.

 

[Blomquist]

Most people wouldn't continue to play down the letter if it's so insignificant/not important to them. Over explaining/over emphasizing is something that highlights/encourages further scrutiny and suspicion wrt the subject, in my experience.

Personally, on initial inspection, the letter looks odd, has anomalies, shows controlling/conditional tendencies, and it has been presented as authentic until someone has better proof otherwise, it would seem.

It not only says things to me, I'm sure it does to others. Simply put, DP has ZERO control over his client and/or obviously didn't ADVISE DM about jailhouse letters. Either way it's a negative for the defense.

Actually ALL inmates have access to pencil, paper and envelope...they are ALLOWED to write letters. There is nothing odd weird or peculiar about it. The only odd thing here is that someone decided to show that letter on a public website....now that is something I find odd, weird and peculiar !!!

DM does not have to get permission from a lawyer to write a letter ..... none of the inmates do.... to my knowledge. The only restriction would be to whom he can write...due to the publication ban.... which imo can be circumvented easily enough....but I wont elaborate and give anyone any ideas :shush:

I don't think everyone holds your opinion of the controlling/conditioning aspect that you have created from that letter. But we can all have our own views..... for now anyway :scared::guitar:

 

[Blomquist]

The thing is a forger would aim to make things too uniform and perfect, and not insert quirks like "My closest friends and family stand by my side, which is really all I need" where "need" is written and the rest is printed. Also there are 4 spelling mistakes (highjacked/hijacked, meanningful/meaningful, aquaintance/acquaintance, news paper/newspaper)...I mean if you make 3 mistakes in the first paragraph, it is ok to throw away the paper and start again.

Actually I may have the answer...... in jail inmates only usually get ONE piece of paper at any given time and ONE envelope.... HTH

 

[Sillybilly]

Great. Maybe the prosecutor could put his closing arguments into song.

:facepalm:

"Jailhouse Rock" has a nice ring to it :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[Sillybilly]

I know this because I do have an expertise in handwriting and professional calligraphy and I can forge just about anything. :angel:
:takeabow:

And speaking of forgers and noses, Snoofo ... can ya come just a little bit closer to your monitor please :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[SnooperDuper]

Actually I may have the answer...... in jail inmates only usually get ONE piece of paper at any given time and ONE envelope.... HTH

Reminds me of an old one:

What's the difference between a mathematician and a philosopher?

A mathematician only needs paper, pencil and a trash bin to work. The philosopher doesn't need the trash bin.

I guess that's what DP mean when he said, "he's a bit of a philosopher"...

 

[Blomquist]

Reminds me of an old one:

What's the difference between a mathematician and a philosopher?

A mathematician only needs paper, pencil and a trash bin to work. The philosopher doesn't need the trash bin.

I guess that's what DP mean when he said, "he's a bit of a philosopher"...

I must have missed the philosophical part of that letter... :websleuther:

 

[Sillybilly]

I must have missed the philosophical part of that letter... :websleuther:

BQ, seriously .. I'm going to send you a joke book for Christmas

 

[Blomquist]

BQ, seriously .. I'm going to send you a joke book for Christmas

Please do... if you knew me you would know how funny that actually is :giggle:

 

[Archangel7]

Actually ALL inmates have access to pencil, paper and envelope...they are ALLOWED to write letters. There is nothing odd weird or peculiar about it. The only odd thing here is that someone decided to show that letter on a public website....now that is something I find odd, weird and peculiar !!!

DM does not have to get permission from a lawyer to write a letter ..... none of the inmates do.... to my knowledge. The only restriction would be to whom he can write...due to the publication ban.... which imo can be circumvented easily enough....but I wont elaborate and give anyone any ideas :shush:

I don't think everyone holds your opinion of the controlling/conditioning aspect that you have created from that letter. But we can all have our own views..... for now anyway :scared::guitar:

We're weren't / aren't talking about other incarcerated souls nor was the topic whom he could write.

Like I said any proof the letter isn't genuine or that there are no anomalies or telling personality indicators? Opinions are just that, opinions and I thank you for yours but I was interested in any proof of to refute the proof presented.

 

[Crispy]

Dellen Millard barn searched Monday: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/story/2013/09/09/dellen-millard-farm-search458.html

 

[matou]

I can't help thinking TB's truck was for a drug running trip. JMO

 

[Snoofo]

I can't help thinking TB's truck was for a drug running trip. JMO

Arent there easier ways to get a truck for that? Why TB's?

 

[matou]

Maybe DM had no intention on paying full price for a truck that he was only going to use the engine for in the first place. And the sellers were likely not going to lower their selling price. JMO

 

[cansleuther]

Maybe DM had no intention on paying full price for a truck that he was only going to use the engine for in the first place.

Did he really need the engine though? DM already had a rebuilt Hemi that could have been installed in the Ram or the Jeep, without all the modifications that would have been required with a Cummins diesel.