General Discussion Thread #1 -Bail Hearing

[Sarahlou]

Oh for god's sake! All this about him crying and wailing! He's just sorry for himself. I have a really bad feeling he'll get away with this.

 

[redheadedgal]

more wailing? good grief!

has any other male celeb cried this much in court?

 

[Waddles]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/feb/19/oscar-pistorius-bail-hearing-live-coverage
He says that South African law has evolved and it is now different to the past, when there was a high onus on the accused to get bail.

Nair says that Garrie Nel, the prosecuting lawyer, is relying on objective facts.

The overnight bag, the shots through the door, the locked door, the fact the door was broken from the outside, the fact Pistorius carried Steenkamp's body downstairs.

The prosecution's only inference is that Pistorius put his prosthetic legs on before arming himself and shooting, the judge says.

 

[katydid23]

I would have felt sorry for him hearing his wailing--if I hadn't already heard that she was shot through the bathroom door 4 times. Nobody mistakenly shoots a supposed intruder through the bathroom door, leaving a bloody cricket bat behind.

 

[Sarahlou]

This point really stands out to me
It's not like he couldn't tell his girlfriend wasn't in bed with him.

@BBCAndrewH: Prosecution: not like waking up with someone over your bed and shoot on instinct. No, he woke, put on legs, took gun and walked 7m to shoot.

 

[Patticake]

If it's Schedule Six, Pistorius is going to cry.

 

[squeaky]

he's already crying

 

[Carol70]

If it's Schedule Six, Pistorius is going to cry.

OH YES!!!! For quite some time too!!

 

[Carol70]

Judge rules Pistorius case is 'schedule six'


Magistrate Desmond Nair has ruled that Pistorius's case is a schedule six offence.

That makes it extremely unlikely the defendant will be granted bail.

 

[katydid23]

I think they'd better place him on suicide watch.

 

[Lola]

interesting that maj nair said the prosecution relied on objective facts and pistorius' lawyer -- well not so much. what options will they have now?

 

[Patticake]

Any stats on how often Class 6 or Schedule 6 rulings translate into convictions? I must say, the circumstances of this case are appalling.

 

[Estelle]

Oscar Pistorius Swears Bloody Cricket Bat From Different Murder

Feb 18, 2013

PRETORIA, SOUTH AFRICA—Facing allegations that he killed girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp during a dispute at his Pretoria mansion last week, track star Oscar Pistorius swore before a judge Monday that a bloodied cricket bat found on his property was in fact used in a completely different murder. “Honest to God, I never used that bat on Reeva—you have to believe me,” the double amputee said of the blood-soaked wooden paddle, claiming he had only ever used it in the 2011 slaying of a Johannesburg prostitute and “a handful” of cricket matches. “Seriously, I haven’t even seen that thing since I killed a hooker with it. To be honest, I forgot I still had it lying around.” According to sources, Pistorius went on to claim that Steenkamp’s skull was already caved in before he shot her four times.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/oscar-pistorius-swears-bloody-cricket-bat-from-dif,31341/?ref=auto

 

[Lola]

evidence for downgrading the charge to schedule 5 upon bail application? 5 minute recess...will that still be today? and what can they hope to present that will mitigate?

 

[redheadedgal]

If it's Schedule Six, Pistorius is going to cry.

he's already crying

 

[katydid23]

Oscar Pistorius Swears Bloody Cricket Bat From Different Murder

Feb 18, 2013

PRETORIA, SOUTH AFRICA—Facing allegations that he killed girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp during a dispute at his Pretoria mansion last week, track star Oscar Pistorius swore before a judge Monday that a bloodied cricket bat found on his property was in fact used in a completely different murder. “Honest to God, I never used that bat on Reeva—you have to believe me,” the double amputee said of the blood-soaked wooden paddle, claiming he had only ever used it in the 2011 slaying of a Johannesburg prostitute and “a handful” of cricket matches. “Seriously, I haven’t even seen that thing since I killed a hooker with it. To be honest, I forgot I still had it lying around.” According to sources, Pistorius went on to claim that Steenkamp’s skull was already caved in before he shot her four times.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/oscar-pistorius-swears-bloody-cricket-bat-from-dif,31341/?ref=auto

You know that is a quote from THE ONION, right?

 

[redheadedgal]

Oscar Pistorius Swears Bloody Cricket Bat From Different Murder

Feb 18, 2013

PRETORIA, SOUTH AFRICA—Facing allegations that he killed girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp during a dispute at his Pretoria mansion last week, track star Oscar Pistorius swore before a judge Monday that a bloodied cricket bat found on his property was in fact used in a completely different murder. “Honest to God, I never used that bat on Reeva—you have to believe me,” the double amputee said of the blood-soaked wooden paddle, claiming he had only ever used it in the 2011 slaying of a Johannesburg prostitute and “a handful” of cricket matches. “Seriously, I haven’t even seen that thing since I killed a hooker with it. To be honest, I forgot I still had it lying around.” According to sources, Pistorius went on to claim that Steenkamp’s skull was already caved in before he shot her four times.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/oscar-pistorius-swears-bloody-cricket-bat-from-dif,31341/?ref=auto

satire... ignore

 

[Sarahlou]

When will the trial be? I feel I should already know this but I can't recall seeing when.

 

[Melanie]

Updated article @ CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/19/world/africa/south-africa-pistorius-case/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

 

[Carol70]

When will the trial be? I feel I should already know this but I can't recall seeing when.

Anything from 6-12 months time...

He is buggered. and yes..should be on suicide watch if he doesnt get bail which is more than likely...it will be a very long wait until his trial.