General Discussion Thread #1 -Bail Hearing

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There are devious, tiresome burglars out there who will sit in your toilet for hours on end reading Proust or doing cryptic crossword puzzles and using all the paper, and leaving floaters and other debris, and there are very modest, diffident and nervous burglars who will slip in for a quick wee-wee before rifling your silverware and who will always lock the door in case they are caught with their flies undone, and then there are burglars who specialise in the shiny metal IKEA brush holders, which now fetch a premium, what with aluminium prices going through the roof.

And then of course there are narcissistic burglars who insist on popping into your WC during a caper in order to check their striped shirt and mask and bag marked "SWAG" in the vanity mirror.

Fortunately, very few of these burglars (and absolutely no "totally incontinent burglars" - the very worst kind of intruder) are known to carry military-grade automatic firearms, and they are therefore not usually THAT dangerous, and one doesn't need to drill them full of holes through a closed door.

Except...
if one is completely out to lunch on bad acid or crystal meth or similar, when it probably doesn't matter, as the burglars manifest themselves as giant flying lizards anyway.

Seriously, has the toxicology come back on OP yet? I can't help feeling, however hard I try to get inside the tingling skin of someone living in a scary place like this was alleged to be, that he must have been utterly bat-$h1t crazy at the time. Drugs will do that to you.
This really made me LOL!!! true story, I know people who arrived home after work to find they had been robbed during the day, only to find out the burglers thanked them for all the awesome electronics they stole by taking a huge dump in the middle of their bed..i mean WTF????
 
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10:47 - Nel: Oscar Pistorius must realise that a conviction is likely. He must realise that long-term imprisonment is almost guaranteed.

10:46 - Nel: Minister Xingwana was present in court, [which] shows how serious Government is about this case.

10:46 - Nel: Pistorius got a friend to take the blame because of media. "Always me. Protect me."
 
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#OscarPistorius Nel: there are many important people who are still fleeing justice. BB

#OscarPistorius Nel: this accused has the means to pay any amount of bail, his international status means he can be accommodated anywhere.
 
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#OscarPistorius Nel: yes, he doesn't own a house in Italy, but he has a home. BB

#OscarPistorius Nel: deals with the Sarie magazine - the access to the home in Italy. BB
 
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andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH
Nel: concedes #OscarPistorius might be acquitted. Lots of people think that... But lots of important people skip bail.
 
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Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman
#OscarPistorius Nel: he's afraid of crime but the front door was unlocked. Why?

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH
Nel: paranoid man who is victim of burglaries who slept with open doors and windows... #OscarPistorius has to explain that.
 
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Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman
#OscarPistorius Nel: he says he went down first unlocked the door then went to collect her. Improbable. BB
 
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Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman
#OscarPistorius Nel: one shot could have been fired from the passage. But not the other three - casings found in bathroom. BB

Karyn Maughan ‏@karynmaughan
Nel: we supposedly have this paranoid man who lived in fear of his life. But his balcony door, bathroom door and front door all open.

Bathroom? did he mean Bedroom?
 
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andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH
#OscarPistorius dabs eyes with tissue.

All interesting stuff here but starting to feel repetitive now. Sense that court anxious to get to ruling on #OscarPistorius bail.

Nel: he has to save a life. Why did he go downstairs to unlock door. Doesn't make sense. Why not carry her down first?
 
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10:53 - Nel: One shot could have been fired from the passage. But not the other three - casings found in bathroom.

10:53 - Nel: We say detective Botha never conceded that Pistorius stood at the entrance to the bathroom when he fired the shots.

10:52 - Nel: Oscar Pistorius left [his] dying girlfriend upstairs, went down to unlock [the] main house door, then came back to carry her down. Why?

10:51 - Nel: We supposedly have this paranoid man who lived in fear of his life. But his balcony door, bathroom door and front door all open.

10:49 - Nel deals with the Sarie magazine - the access to the home in Italy. Nel: He can't prove he OWNS a house in Italy, but he has a home there.

10:49 - Nel: Important people are granted bail, stand trial, are convicted, serve terms. But lots have escaped justice too.

10:48 - Nel: Oscar Pistorius has the international status to be accommodated elsewhere.

10:47 - Nel: He might think he'll be acquitted. A lot of people think that.
 
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Karyn Maughan ‏@karynmaughan
Nel: there is no evidence about Reeva's bladder being empty. #OscarPistorius legal team had their own expert - but chose not to call him

Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman
#OscarPistorius Nel: the defence said the IO tried to bolster the state's case, but he made numerous concessions. BB

#OscarPistorius Nel: there is no evidence before court about the empty bladder. Botha said he couldn't confirm it. BB
 
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Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman
#OscarPistorius Nel sums up - the court should refuse bail, he has the onus, he provided an improbable version. BB

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH
Nel: #OscarPistorius version of events improbable. State case based on objective facts. I think he's a flight risk.
 
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#OscarPistorius Nair asks what kind of life would Oscar lead if he fled? Nel: a life of freedom? BB

ouch!
 
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Karyn Maughan ‏@karynmaughan
Nair: but would kind of life would #OscarPistorius lead if he were to flee? Nel: a life not in prison. Freedom. @eNCAnews

Nel: if you're looking at life imprisonment as a possibility, its not easy to stay if you have means to leave. #OscarPistorious @eNCAnews
 
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Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman
#OscarPistorius Nair concerned about the life he would live considering his prosthesis. BB

Karyn Maughan ‏@karynmaughan
Nel: courts can't treat people with disabilities differently. They can't treat famous people differently. #OscarPistorius @eNCAnews

Nair: but ducking and diving every day, with those prosthetic legs? Nel: yes. Laughter from the gallery. Nel is annoyed. @eNCAnews
 
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#OscarPistorius Nel: so he commits crime, we treat him differently because he's disabled? It cannot be. BB
 
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#OscarPistorius Nel: refers to Julian Assange - he sits in an embassy in London and no one can touch him. Doesn't matter well-known BB
 
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Karyn Maughan ‏@karynmaughan
Nel closes his argument against bail. #OscarPistorius @eNCAnews

#OscarPistorius we adjourn for 10 minutes. BB

#OscarPistorius Nel concludes argument. Roux to respond. BB
 
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Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman
#OscarPistorius Nel: one shot could have been fired from the passage. But not the other three - casings found in bathroom. BB

Karyn Maughan ‏@karynmaughan
Nel: we supposedly have this paranoid man who lived in fear of his life. But his balcony door, bathroom door and front door all open.

Bathroom? did he mean Bedroom?
Front door?????? huh????
 
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Last night I was certain he was going to get bail, now Im not sure!!!
 
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