General Discussions #5

[newkid]

So what's the main focus right now? Have we gotten all of the nc_vx posts? There's also the issue of the pawn shop. The alleged assault on the soccer referee that we haven't been able to verify. I'm drawing a blank ... what else is hanging open that we might be able to investigate further?

:waitasec: Um, I don't know. Maybe there will be more information after the hearing on Friday?

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

We still need to search online dating sites

Anyone know the most likely one to start checking?

I've also searched endlessly through HotOrNot but that's probably a site where you can remove your profile if you choose to do so.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

I found this guy that seems to have a similar style to Raven but I'm almost positive that it's not him.

HOT or NOT

ETA: The problem with this site is that as far as I can tell, you can't leave and then pick up where you left off when you return.

 

[golfmom]

:laugh:

It looks a little like this one but is a mess, I think. This ones seems more organized.

We still need to search online dating sites

Now I wonder why that might be!

 

[golfmom]

Sleuthing around the web for any other sites at which Raven may have posted.

I thought previously he might have had a motorcycle board just like he had his VX board ...

I've search a little bit previously but haven't turned up anything yet.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

Anyone know the most likely one to start checking?

I've also searched endlessly through HotOrNot but that's probably a site where you can remove your profile if you choose to do so.

I looked for him forever on hot or not and got bored

I know of match.com
[email protected]
and
eharmony.com

 

[juliagoulia]

Much has been discussed as far as Raven's psyche, personality, etc., if you will. We were informed of an alleged assault on a soccer referee for example.

I'm wondering - does anyone know of any other instances, eye-witness accounts, etc., of any violent tendencies that Raven may have had in the past?

SES, I matriculated with Raven and Janet at SVU. I knew Janet but only knew of Raven, so I don't have any first-hand accounts of a violent background. However, when the news of Janet's murder reached the SVU campus, nearly all those that remembered the couple commented on Raven's bad temper. The stories were similar--approaching identical--to the one that Mr. AG posted here :
http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=665653&postcount=373http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=665653&highlight=basketball#post665653

I know it isn't much information, but hopefully it will encourage those individuals to share their stories.

 

[ewwwinteresting]

Hey, can you guys help me with trying to find something? I remember hearing a reporter (reporting from the police station) stating that the police knew that Janet was a daughter, mom, sister to someone and that they wanted to solve this case.....but I can't find the video. What I remember destinctively when I heard that story was that the word "wife" was missing.....just wanted to relisten and confirm this.....

 

[PrayersForMaura]

:laugh:

Now I wonder why that might be!

:blushing:

 

[Rooster]

I found this guy that seems to have a similar style to Raven but I'm almost positive that it's not him.

HOT or NOT

ETA: The problem with this site is that as far as I can tell, you can't leave and then pick up where you left off when you return.

Confirmed by Rooster...This is not Raven.

 

[golfmom]

Hey, can you guys help me with trying to find something? I remember hearing a reporter (reporting from the police station) stating that the police knew that Janet was a daughter, mom, sister to someone and that they wanted to solve this case.....but I can't find the video. What I remember destinctively when I heard that story was that the word "wife" was missing.....just wanted to relisten and confirm this.....

Been looking ... I haven't found it, but I wanted to let you know that it might not be online for us anylonger. Some media, to save room, remove older stories.

 

[ewwwinteresting]

Been looking ... I haven't found it, but I wanted to let you know that it might not be online for us anylonger. Some media, to save room, remove older stories.

Does anybody else remember hearing it? I might have saved it to my computer, I'll have to go research!!!!

 

[SouthEastSleuth]

SES, I matriculated with Raven and Janet at SVU. I knew Janet but only knew of Raven, so I don't have any first-hand accounts of a violent background. However, when the news of Janet's murder reached the SVU campus, nearly all those that remembered the couple commented on Raven's bad temper. The stories were similar--approaching identical--to the one that Mr. AG posted here :
http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=665653&postcount=373

I know it isn't much information, but hopefully it will encourage those individuals to share their stories.

Thank you juliagoulia.

I think it's helpful to get a sense of someone's past, as far as history of violence, or not. Temperament, demeanor, etc. And ANY information is useful information. And having read your post, maybe it will inspire someone else to share stories, thoughts, first-hand accounts, etc.

Thanks!

 

[Thinkoflaura]

I am really confused and feel conflicted about what is correct and what is not correct or right.

I've read this thread and the more I have read from everyone who has posted, the more afraid I have become that I will post something that is not judged to be allowed or is not deemed to follow the guidelines.

This feeling started days ago and it's increased to the point that I have butterflies in my stomach from just reading.

Right now, I feel absolutely sick posting, I am so tentative with my choice of words.

Maybe it's this case in particular which has different aspects from most, the extreme lack of national media coverage being the hallmark difference, and my admiration for and faith in Misterallgood and his concern in bringing the case to posters attention being another unusual difference. Of course, so many posters have been Google Girls and found historical data which has added so much to our understanding of what personalities and habits of the couple were, and we have learned with every new thing which has been uncovered. Thank you to NCBanker, too, who selflessly went to the Abaroa crimescene and posted photos of the house for us, and has given us answers for financel- related questions.

This case touches my heart deeply; so do the tedious hours of work posted here for a month. An incredible database has been sourced through the life of an Internet junkie and his prolific recording of personal reactions, family action and interaction, and statements which reflect an attitude, dude.

I think that every poster who has added information in the way of archived web entries, photos of the Abaroa house, and confirmed as well as unconfirmed source information has given additional understanding of possible dynamics and stressors inside the Abaroa family structure.
Thank you for many hours of searching and posting. I consider you to be very valuable and dedicated to Janet's case.

This may be my last post on this case, at least until something breaks in the news, hopefully... some day... when the crime lab in NC has time to dedicate to evidence testing....

It's my feeling that some people who have posted with an obvious diligence and caring have been somewhat muted.
I respect the moderators of the forums at WS and suspect that theirs is a thankless volunteer job most of the time. .. I see both sides, and the fact is that there is not really neutral ground possible once a person formulates a personal theory about the likely perpetrator of a murder.. charged or not. We are not defense attorneys, court judges or jurists, so we have the freedom to discuss personal theories, I would think.

I hope this all gets smoothed out with consideration and understanding. I don't want to see anyone be stressed or have their work removed, or a moderator have to defend his or her position repeatedly either. It's unproductive for all.

I will be supporting you fellow posters who are diligently seeking clues for justice in spirit, and will be reading your findings, thoughts, theories.
I do not find the atmosphere exactly conducive to my continued posting due to the LACK of solid evidence related to Janet's murder at this time, which seems to be a pre-requisite for an advancing discussion here. I don't want to break any rules and until there is news reported from either NC or national news outlets, I don't know what I can add or discuss.

Maybe I am identifying too much with the victim, and maybe our collective desire to see this case receive media attention and LE results has piled on layers of caring as well as frustration. The direction which this discussion has taken is a bit overwhelming for me. I really don't know what can be and should be posted at this point in time.

Many of us have read through tons of posts on other true crime cases here as a guest before we registered, I think.. I know that with the Ramsey case, there has been speculation on everything from a child sex ring to CO political conspiracies, to a small boy having knowledge and a desire for frightening sexual behavior such as erotic asphixiation posted. As far as I know from the last time I read the Ramsey case threads, all of that speculation was allowed to stand, weird and far-flung as it is and has been.

Does anyone see why I am feeling concerned and confused as well as very uneasy about posting on the Abaroa case? Read the long and ongoing Ramsey debates, many of which are speculative in nature and range from the sublime to the absurd and maybe it will be a bit clearer as to why I do not know what to post on this Abaroa case thread any longer.

 

[Jenifred]

Hey, can you guys help me with trying to find something? I remember hearing a reporter (reporting from the police station) stating that the police knew that Janet was a daughter, mom, sister to someone and that they wanted to solve this case.....but I can't find the video. What I remember destinctively when I heard that story was that the word "wife" was missing.....just wanted to relisten and confirm this.....

How long ago was this?

 

[ewwwinteresting]

This may be my last post on this case, at least until something breaks in the news

TOL: I can respect your decision but feel if we all felt that way, there would be no forum....no voice for Janet. We are the only ones talking about this case. If we weren't here, Janet's murder would be unknown to many. The media isn't covering it (see possible stories SES posted), LE isn't releasing information (maybe because lack of it), Raven or his family isn't talking (for whatever reason).......Janet has NO VOICE.......we are it. I have gone to SES's thread about refocusing three times already today.....and I will not stop just because I'm afraid somebody might edit my post.

 

[Thinkoflaura]

I looked for him forever on hot or not and got bored

I know of match.com
[email protected]
and
eharmony.com

I read something recently on the Drudge Report that there is a dating site caled Lava something.. Lavalight maybe? The main difference seems to be that people can post, um, mature type photos. I think this might be of interest to a guy who thought the skin tone on a female in a screen saver was awesome and mentioned Playboy in the same post.. Just thinking..

Edited to say: Nope, just Googled it and it's www.lavalife.com
Whew, people must be desperate for a " date" to put nude or semi-nude photos on the Internet. I bet this site has more men browsing than most, LOL.

 

[ewwwinteresting]

How long ago was this?

It was the first week. If I remember right, it was after being notified she was stabbed and the reporter was indicating that the police are not naming a suspect but they know Janet is important to her family and want to solve this crime (or something like that). I was listening to the report with a friend and we both picked up the fact that the reporter did not say that she was a "wife" to someone...just daughter, sister and mother. I was wondering at the time if LE was trying to say something, by not saying something??

ETA: Maybe we can start a thread about what LE is NOT saying (unconfirmed, of course)????

 

[SouthEastSleuth]

I thought previously he might have had a motorcycle board just like he had his VX board ...

I've search a little bit previously but haven't turned up anything yet.

Wait. There IS a motorcycle board. I thought we had discussed that already here?? Remember, at one point on the VX boards, he posted information about trying to sell his Ducati? And one of the posters suggested he use another site??



This link is his "profile":

http://speedzilla.zeroforum.com/zerouser?cmd=viewprofile&id=9993096593

And this link are his posts when trying to sell the Ducati (last post was 3/20/05 according to his profile page):


http://speedzilla.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=38942&postid=351129#351129


Side note: on the link with postings above, you'll notice the first reply post is by "jager", who used to post here at WS, telling how Raven left a business card on his Ducati, etc.

I REALLY thought we had all of this info, like weeks ago. So, if I'm mistaken, I apologize!!

 

[golfmom]

Wait. There IS a motorcycle board.

Side note: on the link with postings above, you'll notice the first reply post is by "jager", who used to post here at WS, telling how Raven left a business card on his Ducati, etc.

I REALLY thought we had all of this info, like weeks ago. So, if I'm mistaken, I apologize!!

No, I knew about that one. I was looking for one that he really opened up with like he did with his VX friends.