General theory thread and motives rehashed #3

[Nonni Brenda]

Good post. I think you're right, but I think TN has a lot more involvement and I wouldn't be surprised if she's the one that took Haleigh's body. JMO

I think Whisp is right too with the Rita Ln address. That place needs to be torn apart and searched.

All JMO

I think you're right. I believe tn had much more involvement with more that just the cleanup. I think she may be the one responsible for Haleigh's death. I also agree that the Rita L.should be torn apart. It is just too big a coincidence that LE was called there just before they were callecd to Ron's MH. JMO
Surely LE put 2 and 2 together on that.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

I do! The funeral home that was fined by someone, (state of Fl, IIRC) for dumping the artifical limbs of the deceased into the St. John's River.

That was always hinky to me...Oh, and didn't that same funeral home director also set up a donations account for Ron at Bank of America? That seems even more hinkier <-- is that a word? lol

BBM It is now. LOL

 

[lonetraveler]

I do! The funeral home that was fined by someone, (state of Fl, IIRC) for dumping the artifical limbs of the deceased into the St. John's River.

That was always hinky to me...Oh, and didn't that same funeral home director also set up a donations account for Ron at Bank of America? That seems even more hinkier <-- is that a word? lol

That would be a great way to be reimbursed for the "after hours" work that was done for Ronald Cummings wouldn't it? Just skim a few dollars off the top, so to speak of donations coming in for Ronald?

 

[lonetraveler]

I can see how Ron would be drunk and desperate for money at the 6:00 o'clock time. He desperately needed funds to give someone to take care of Haleigh's body.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

dodie, this is a tough one because this has gone on for so long. Misty is a con and a manipulator...I don't know if she did it but my first guteral instincts were she did.

She has turned on her brother in the worst way. She told the world he molested her. She told LE about the minor thefts wich, BTW, gave him moocho more time. She told LE her brother holds the key....and to ask him.

I think she is more than willing to sell him out if she had anything. The problem as I see it is tommy has never once got angry or talked back to her or defended himself with her allegations..now that is strange.
And I think that is where LE is going. Y didn't tommy defend himself? It appears he would be guilty of the charges since he didn't.

Whisp, I had never looked at Tommy that closely, but you are right about the part BBM. It almost seems that Tommy wants LE, and everyone to look at him as the one who did it. Like he's jumping up and down like a child saying, "Look at me, look at me!" Now, to figure out why he would do that?:waitasec: :waitasec: :waitasec:

 

[krkrjx]

It would be easy to assume Misty had friends over and was drunk or drugged, voluntarily or otherwise. She passed out. One of the group took Haleigh out of the home, and Misty really did wake up to find Haleigh gone.

It would be easy to assume Misty went out for awhile, left the door unlocked so she could get back in, and came home to find Haleigh gone.

It would be easy to assume Misty and Tommy were there doing [whatever] and Haleigh woke up and raised a fuss; either threatened to tell her dad or simply refused to go back to bed when she was told to and either Tommy or Misty struck her or pushed her--harder than intended--and then one or both took Haleigh out of the home.

It would be easy to assume Misty was out like a light, exhausted from her weekend drug binge and subsequent argument with Ronald--so exhausted that when the perp entered the home she didn't hear a thing, and eventually she woke up to find Haleigh gone.

I could go with any of the above because Haleigh could have met her demise in an unintentional heat-of-the-moment manner, or she could have been abducted by someone who knew the layout of the MH, knew Ron was at work, new Misty would be out like a light, etc. IOW, none of our players, but not a stranger.

The only problem I have with any of the above scenarios is Ronald Cummings' behavior. It goes deeper than just a dude who doesn't have social skills, doesn't know how to articulate, doesn't know the right thing to say or do in a given situation. Ron's behavior was often the total opposite of a man who has lost his child.

The only way I can even consider that Ron had absolutely nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance is to believe he did not care one whit about his kids, that he never wanted custody and went after it for the sole purpose of hurting Crystal. There is just no way I can believe Ronald cared about Haleigh, loved her with all his heart, etc., and went on to say and do any of the things he did after his child's disappearance, if he truly is not involved. Even being a "cracker" (as he called himself) does not explain his seeming lack of interest in Haleigh being found or the person responsible for her demise being brought to justice.

With that all said, I would be very happy indeed if this case were to be solved showing Ronald was not involved because parent harming child is the absolute worst form of betrayal.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

My very 1st reaction was to think Misty was guilty, & a lonely Ron, took her back because, he saw her anguish, & 'forgave' her? wanted someone to share his pain? IDK, but then he started acting like he was controlling the game, & then he married her, so I thought she was covering for him. & then Tommy threw himself into the mix. HE's the one IMO, who doesn't belong. He's the one, who complicates things. He's the one, who laughed, while hugged up with his wife, when told that Misty was pointing at him. I seriously don't get him. I've never seen anybody like him. MOO.

And then later on, admitted to being part of the whole thing, put himself at the MH, and at the disposal site. it's almost like he thinks it's funny and he's playing a game. He's a sick bird!

 

[Chablis]

The only problem I have with any of the above scenarios is Ronald Cummings' behavior. It goes deeper than just a dude who doesn't have social skills, doesn't know how to articulate, doesn't know the right thing to say or do in a given situation. Ron's behavior was often the total opposite of a man who has lost his child.

The only way I can even consider that Ron had absolutely nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance is to believe he did not care one whit about his kids, that he never wanted custody and went after it for the sole purpose of hurting Crystal. There is just no way I can believe Ronald cared about Haleigh, loved her with all his heart, etc., and went on to say and do any of the things he did after his child's disappearance, if he truly is not involved. Even being a "cracker" (as he called himself) does not explain his seeming lack of interest in Haleigh being found or the person responsible for her demise being brought to justice.

With that all said, I would be very happy indeed if this case were to be solved showing Ronald was not involved because parent harming child is the absolute worst form of betrayal.

Exactly. I mean, the only way I can believe that all the Croslins, and some of the Sykes/Neves?Cummings all know about this childs death and are all covering it up is because they are all part of a satanic cult and they needed to sacrifice a young one during a full moon, and thats so far fetched and disturbing, but thats what it would take for me to believe that all these people, from family to funeral home workers are covering up this crime. Its like its some complex intricate elaborate story, when in truth, what probably happened is SIMPLE, a hot head druggie daddy lost his temper and his child paid the price.

There is no way that Ronald Cummings is not involved.

 

[watchinginky]

I can see how Ron would be drunk and desperate for money at the 6:00 o'clock time. He desperately needed funds to give someone to take care of Haleigh's body.

ITA. This is one of the very few things that makes sense. Ron has done something to Haleigh, accidentally, freaks out, gets drunk and starts trying to find money ASAP.

Maybe Haleigh was put in the dumpster for a short time....just long enough to get things squared away with the funeral home peeps. Cadaver dogs did hit on the dumpster and there is a reason for this IMO. There was a loud truck in the area of the dumpster in the early AM hours of the 10th. I can't believe that not one person got up out of their bed and looked out the window at that time of night if they heard a loud truck. I would have. I do at my house if I hear a vehicle running outside close to my house. I want to know what's going on.

I think LE needs to check more into the funeral home peeps and the donation account that was set up for Ron.

All JMO.

 

[Chablis]

ITA. This is one of the very few things that makes sense. Ron has done something to Haleigh, accidentally, freaks out, gets drunk and starts trying to find money ASAP.

Maybe Haleigh was put in the dumpster for a short time....just long enough to get things squared away with the funeral home peeps. Cadaver dogs did hit on the dumpster and there is a reason for this IMO. There was a loud truck in the area of the dumpster in the early AM hours of the 10th. I can't believe that not one person got up out of their bed and looked out the window at that time of night if they heard a loud truck. I would have. I do at my house if I hear a vehicle running outside close to my house. I want to know what's going on.

I think LE needs to check more into the funeral home peeps and the donation account that was set up for Ron.

All JMO.

Ronald is not some young influential lad with great wealth. He is not some Don who has people kissing his rings. I mean seriously, are these funeral workers also equipped with how to prepare a body for cremation, lots needs to be done before you cremate it. What would Ronald Cummings have on someone to even have someone that disgusting and agreeable to cremate a child for him? I mean even being a drug user is not usually worth ruining your business to help someone like Ron, cant buy that theory at all. I mean logically, you cant have about 15 people knowing about the death and no one says anything unless they are all involved. Ron was a wanna be , I dont think he had anything that major on anyone for anyone to do this for him, no way.

Its not a complex plot at all. It really does not take someone smart to hide a body, especially someone who is homegrown from that area and hunts and knows the land.
jmo

 

[Emeralgem]

IMO..Ron C and Co. are capable of doing anything that involves being sinister, diabolical and underhanded. They have proven that.

 

[watchinginky]

Ronald is not some young influential lad with great wealth. He is not some Don who has people kissing his rings. I mean seriously, are these funeral workers also equipped with how to prepare a body for cremation, lots needs to be done before you cremate it. What would Ronald Cummings have on someone to even have someone that disgusting and agreeable to cremate a child for him? I mean even being a drug user is not usually worth ruining your business to help someone like Ron, cant buy that theory at all. I mean logically, you cant have about 15 people knowing about the death and no one says anything unless they are all involved. Ron was a wanna be , I dont think he had anything that major on anyone for anyone to do this for him, no way.

Its not a complex plot at all. It really does not take someone smart to hide a body, especially someone who is homegrown from that area and hunts and knows the land.
jmo

IIRC, this is the same group of funeral workers that were dumping "parts" into the St. Johns River. Doesn't really sound like a group of classy people to me. I'm sure that usually there is a lot to do to prepare a body for cremation. But on the flip side, I'm sure it could be done quite quickly if the need arised and the price was right. Anything can happen when drugs are involved and when someone is desperate, as Ron seemed to be that night. Desperate people do desperate things IMO. Look at Ron's behavior that night....speaks volumes to me.

Also IIRC, Misty made a statement to the effect of there being nothing of Haleigh to be found sometime around the time they found the plastic rose out in the woods. I don't have a link, but it's in these threads somewhere.

This is a therory thread and I think anything is possible with this bunch.

All JMO.

 

[Chablis]

IIRC, this is the same group of funeral workers that were dumping "parts" into the St. Johns River. Doesn't really sound like a group of classy people to me. I'm sure that usually there is a lot to do to prepare a body for cremation. But on the flip side, I'm sure it could be done quite quickly if the need arised and the price was right. Anything can happen when drugs are involved and when someone is desperate, as Ron seemed to be that night. Desperate people do desperate things IMO. Look at Ron's behavior that night....speaks volumes to me.

Also IIRC, Misty made a statement to the effect of there being nothing of Haleigh to be found sometime around the time they found the plastic rose out in the woods. I don't have a link, but it's in these threads somewhere.

This is a therory thread and I think anything is possible with this bunch.

All JMO.

I was not aware of the classy body dumpers down there, lol.

Ok, I mean thats really weird, but Ronald Cummings continued to deal drugs all while knowing the cops had to have been on to him and watching him, he was worried about phones being bugged, he still took the risk to do some mega low level dealing that got him a lot of time behind bars. I guess what I am saying is that he was the type of dealer/user who actually had to take the money to go get it, he didnt even have the money to buy it, he actually took people to the place where the drugs were, that is not the actions of anyone with enough drug dealing to have anything on anyone except the knowledge to know they do drugs. I just cant rationalize the Croslins, the Cummings Sykes, and a funeral home worker all know about this and they just covered for Ron, there just is no motive to cover for Ron, except by the people who LOVE Ron.

On an interview with that one Charlie guy, Misty went off with Ron at Xmas, and Ronald left his Xmas celebration and told his family he had to go talk to Haleigh or whatever, maybe he did, but him and Misty did get together that night, did Ron use his daughter as an excuse to see Misty, probably.

I believe that the LE needs to talk to Crystal, talk to every known gal he dated and ask if there was any place he may have taken them, kind of like Casey throwing Caylee in a familiar secluded area. I dont think much of Ronald Cummings, but I would be rocked to the core if he actually could put his daughter in the water, I think he wants people to think the child was placed in water, but I think its the exact opposite.

 

[Emeralgem]

IIRC, this is the same group of funeral workers that were dumping "parts" into the St. Johns River. Doesn't really sound like a group of classy people to me. I'm sure that usually there is a lot to do to prepare a body for cremation. But on the flip side, I'm sure it could be done quite quickly if the need arised and the price was right. Anything can happen when drugs are involved and when someone is desperate, as Ron seemed to be that night. Desperate people do desperate things IMO. Look at Ron's behavior that night....speaks volumes to me.

Also IIRC, Misty made a statement to the effect of there being nothing of Haleigh to be found sometime around the time they found the plastic rose out in the woods. I don't have a link, but it's in these threads somewhere.

This is a therory thread and I think anything is possible with this bunch.

All JMO.

I wholeheartedly agreeanything is possible with this bunch.
Also there is a pet crematorium located on the same site. Wonder what preparations are mandatory in order to perform that service.

I'm inclined to believe Misty IF she indeed stated there is nothing of Haleigh to be found.JMHO

 

[lil momma]

just throwing this out there, a thought i had while watching one of papa's videos in another thread.

Could GGS have a temper? She was mad b/c Ron let Misty back at the MH, so she went over there, that being her reason to visit the MH that fateful night was not to check on the kids but to really give Misty a piece of her mind, and maybe a pushing match between Granny and Misty, and HaLeigh got in between?

Let me know what you all think... Ron would protect his Grandmother, (she is the one who raised him) TN would protect her Mom. It would make sense that TN praises Misty to Heaven and back, and then turn on her. But why wouldn't Misty spill it once she was turned on? Maybe Ron is the reason Misty won't turn on them..IDK just brainstorming i guess...and i don't even think i believe this one....lol

 

[tiki21]

just throwing this out there, a thought i had while watching one of papa's videos in another thread.

Could GGS have a temper? She was mad b/c Ron let Misty back at the MH, so she went over there, that being her reason to visit the MH that fateful night was not to check on the kids but to really give Misty a piece of her mind, and maybe a pushing match between Granny and Misty, and HaLeigh got in between?

Let me know what you all think... Ron would protect his Grandmother, (she is the one who raised him) TN would protect her Mom. It would make sense that TN praises Misty to Heaven and back, and then turn on her. But why wouldn't Misty spill it once she was turned on? Maybe Ron is the reason Misty won't turn on them..IDK just brainstorming i guess...and i don't even think i believe this one....lol

hi lil momma- i do believe AS could have a temper. i'm not sure what i believe the real reason she went over to 202 that night but in this theory, JR would have most likely been present/witnessed this or saw the coverup. their house was small and if jr heard haleigh crying or upset over an argument between AS & misty, he probably would have been upset and by his sister too.

 

[krkrjx]

hi lil momma- i do believe AS could have a temper. i'm not sure what i believe the real reason she went over to 202 that night but in this theory, JR would have most likely been present/witnessed this or saw the coverup. their house was small and if jr heard haleigh crying or upset over an argument between AS & misty, he probably would have been upset and by his sister too.

I have always questioned why Junior has not said more, especially if he witnessed Haleigh being upset or hurt, or heard her crying. Was Junior even there? Or was Haleigh not crying at any point? It is possible that kids being upset or crying in that home was nothing out of the ordinary; maybe each child was so accustomed to hearing the other upset or crying about something that it didn't faze them. Screaming in terror might be a different thing and if Haleigh had done any of that I think Junior would have noticed, and would have said so. But, who knows.

 

[tiki21]

I have always questioned why Junior has not said more, especially if he witnessed Haleigh being upset or hurt, or heard her crying. Was Junior even there? Or was Haleigh not crying at any point? It is possible that kids being upset or crying in that home was nothing out of the ordinary; maybe each child was so accustomed to hearing the other upset or crying about something that it didn't phase them. Screaming in terror might be a different thing and if Haleigh had done any of that I think Junior would have noticed, and would have said so. But, who knows.

you're right- they might have been immune to that behavior. who knows what they really went thru in that home?

 

[Nonni Brenda]

just throwing this out there, a thought i had while watching one of papa's videos in another thread.

Could GGS have a temper? She was mad b/c Ron let Misty back at the MH, so she went over there, that being her reason to visit the MH that fateful night was not to check on the kids but to really give Misty a piece of her mind, and maybe a pushing match between Granny and Misty, and HaLeigh got in between?

Let me know what you all think... Ron would protect his Grandmother, (she is the one who raised him) TN would protect her Mom. It would make sense that TN praises Misty to Heaven and back, and then turn on her. But why wouldn't Misty spill it once she was turned on? Maybe Ron is the reason Misty won't turn on them..IDK just brainstorming i guess...and i don't even think i believe this one....lol

Hi lil momma. With this bunch anything...and I mean anything...is possible. but you bring up a good point. I don't think Misty would cover for GGMS, but I also don't believe Misty knows everything either. We'll put this in our big basket of theories. Hope we know someday what really happened.:sick:

 

[LillieBelle]

I wholeheartedly agreeanything is possible with this bunch.
Also there is a pet crematorium located on the same site. Wonder what preparations are mandatory in order to perform that service.

I'm inclined to believe Misty IF she indeed stated there is nothing of Haleigh to be found.JMHO

I still go back to when that boat was burned shortly after Haleigh went missing (Please don't ask for link-lol). I think she was cremated, but not at a funeral home.