General theory thread and motives rehashed #3

[Whisperer]

TN had/s resided with Jeff H for many years. Their residence was in Fruitland Park which is about 80 miles from Satsuma. They were recently evicted from there.

AS of last month there is more paperwork. Jeff H is losing a place in foreclosure. Where was the paperwork delivered? TN's..accepted delivery..from what can be determined by the paperwork. Jeff H was not able to be located in Lady Lake. TN received another citation in Lady Lake while driving her son's truck.

All addys for TN have been in the Lady Lake area for the past ten years. She had a brief stay at a home on Shoreline in Satsuma after/during her divorce from J.Neves. This is the addy rc gave to the court when he filed custody; however, three months after he got custody, she was gone from that home and so was ron.

For information concerning Jeff H and T. Neves, you can search Lake County records, not putnam. They resided in Lake County for years. All their business, doctors, lawyers, etc are from Lake County.

Tn has changed her addy in March 2010 to Rita Lane...shortly after her eviction from her Lady Lake residence. CC also lived out there near Jeff and her mom all that time too. I assume that since Haleigh vanished and ron had trouble they have moved from there. Ron is gone now.....be on the lookout for another move. If you want a real puzzler, try researching the rita lane addy. 105 does not exist on any parcel. Looks like the trailer must be sharing with 103/107 for utiliites and claimed that addy of 105...but legally it doesn't exist. Don't understand the rules/laws of real estate there but perhapes these very rural areas aren't kept under the same guidlines as other homes.

 

[Whisperer]

Those are tough questions to answer.

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post -I recently came across a conversation Ron had with TN while he was in PCJ and Ron said he wanted to do his income tax because he was expecting a refund of $5000-$6000.

Amazing, the man works two months out of the entire year and gets thousands of dollars from the Govt. No wonder the country is broke. He certainly did not need any child support with all this moolah. Keeping both kids guaranteed him this much every year. Besides the Govt assistance every month, they were kicking in $550 a month in tax rebates but giving it to him in a lump sum. This guy wasn't hurting at all. Between donations, the back child support and his income tax earned income, he had a very good year financially. I wonder how much he gave to search teams to find Haliegh...hmmm.

He still got to claim Haleigh for 2009 too.:banghead: It just isn't right!

 

[Crosby87]

TN had/s resided with Jeff H for many years. Their residence was in Fruitland Park which is about 80 miles from Satsuma. They were recently evicted from there.

AS of last month there is more paperwork. Jeff H is losing a place in foreclosure. Where was the paperwork delivered? TN's..accepted delivery..from what can be determined by the paperwork. Jeff H was not able to be located in Lady Lake. TN received another citation in Lady Lake while driving her son's truck.

All addys for TN have been in the Lady Lake area for the past ten years. She had a brief stay at a home on Shoreline in Satsuma after/during her divorce from J.Neves. This is the addy rc gave to the court when he filed custody; however, three months after he got custody, she was gone from that home and so was ron.

For information concerning Jeff H and T. Neves, you can search Lake County records, not putnam. They resided in Lake County for years. All their business, doctors, lawyers, etc are from Lake County.

Tn has changed her addy in March 2010 to Rita Lane...shortly after her eviction from her Lady Lake residence. CC also lived out there near Jeff and her mom all that time too. I assume that since Haleigh vanished and ron had trouble they have moved from there. Ron is gone now.....be on the lookout for another move. If you want a real puzzler, try researching the rita lane addy. 105 does not exist on any parcel. Looks like the trailer must be sharing with 103/107 for utiliites and claimed that addy of 105...but legally it doesn't exist. Don't understand the rules/laws of real estate there but perhapes these very rural areas aren't kept under the same guidlines as other homes.

Thanks Whisperer,

Here is the link to the Lake County Florida, Clerk of the Circuit Court and how I found the eviction notice for Neves, T & H, Jeff

http://www.lakecountyclerk.org/

- go to records search, scroll down and click on official records (lake)
- scroll down form & click on box that says you accept disclaimer & notices
- press continue
- enter party name
- click on view

I was curious about the 2007 date. Contrary to what was posted on TN's thread, her divorce from Mr. Neves was dissolved in 2007, not 2005.

TN may have changed her address to 105 Rita Lane in March of 2010, but it is the address she gave LE the night HaLeigh vanished which is on the incident report.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/02/13/putnam.pdf

 

[Whisperer]

Thanks~Yep I know what it is on the incident report, Blue. That is what is controversial. Did she give that to account for her swift arrival? Or did she stay there that night? Or did somebody notifly her much earlier about Haleigh?

On another note, it is also stated she is working in Gainsville as a dispatcher. Was that true?

Did you find the latest info? Oct 2010 on the site re: foreclosure (JH)? Don't you think it is odd they got evicted this year and now another place is being foreclosed?There is something odd about all these addys..

It wouldn't matter where she lived at all if TN didn't arrive so quickly to Green Lane. That is the only reason that makes it interesting. When was she notified? minutes or hours before the 911 was placed. It darn sure wasn't after the call.

 

[Crosby87]

Amazing, the man works two months out of the entire year and gets thousands of dollars from the Govt. No wonder the country is broke. He certainly did not need any child support with all this moolah. Keeping both kids guaranteed him this much every year. Besides the Govt assistance every month, they were kicking in $550 a month in tax rebates but giving it to him in a lump sum. This guy wasn't hurting at all. Between donations, the back child support and his income tax earned income, he had a very good year financially. I wonder how much he gave to search teams to find Haliegh...hmmm.

He still got to claim Haleigh for 2009 too.:banghead: It just isn't right!

Hi Whisperer,

I found this recorded conversation of Ronald's and although it is muffled, at the 7:56 mm it sounds like Ron said he wished he could go do his income tax because he was expecting a refund of $5000-$6000.

Aren't inmates allowed to do their income tax?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCc2bnHFaNA

 

[1Chump]

Hi Whisperer,

I found this recorded conversation of Ronald's and although it is muffled, at the 7:56 mm it sounds like Ron said he wished he could go do his income tax because he was expecting a refund of $5000-$6000.

Aren't inmates allowed to do their income tax?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCc2bnHFaNA

They are not only allowed to do their taxes...they are required to do their taxes. Going to jail does not get you out of taxes.

IMO, his comment had more to do with not getting the cash in his hands. I think his tax refund" would go to Crystal for child support or to the Court for fines but not to him.

IMO, if Ron is not getting the money to spend himself, he won't file for a refund.

 

[1Chump]

Also, when Misty was telling LE where everyone was sleeping she was very unprepared with what story would be best. Maybe she hadn't been rehersed enough about what bed everyone was sleeping in, or she may have gotten confused on what she was supposed to say. IMO

Misty only changed her story when Ron changed it for her.

"Ronald said Misty and Junior were in one bed and Haleigh was sleeping in another, a few feet away.

Misty originally told police that all three of them were sleeping in the same bed, according to Inv. Merchant."

http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=63252

RONALD CUMMINGS: She told me that she was sleeping in the -- her and Junior were sleeping in my queen-size bed and that she was sleeping in the tot bed beside her.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/16/ng.01.html

Many of Misty's inconsistencies at the begging can be traced to Ron and TN. Misty would go along with whatever they said.

 

[SweetDreamOfYou]

They are not only allowed to do their taxes...they are required to do their taxes. Going to jail does not get you out of taxes.

IMO, his comment had more to do with not getting the cash in his hands. I think his tax refund" would go to Crystal for child support or to the Court for fines but not to him.

IMO, if Ron is not getting the money to spend himself, he won't file for a refund.

Your only legally required to file taxes if you owe money. Are prisoners required to file taxes no matter what? Not trying to argue with you, I am curious if there's a requirement.

 

[Crosby87]

Your only legally required to file taxes if you owe money. Are prisoners required to file taxes no matter what? Not trying to argue with you, I am curious if there's a requirement.

Here is what I found out,

Inmates are not allowed to do business so if Ron wanted to or was obligated to file his income tax for 2009, he would have to appoint a power of attorney and the IRS will not send him a refund because he owes a fine. Generally speaking, if you are expecting a refund, you have 3 years to file but it isn't exactly clear whether Ron is obligated to file right away so the money can go towards paying his fines or if he can let the matter slide until he is released. Nothing is simple with the Cummings family LOL.

Inmates have absolutely no rights to an "income tax refund" based on prison or UNICOR wages. No tax, no withholding, no W-2s, no refunds. Plain and simple: prison and UNICOR income is NOT considered as wages so Ron will not be filing income tax while he is incarcerated.

Getting a power of attorney from an incarcerated person is possible with the cooperation of the prison/camp facility but in federal all papers must be mailed in or carried by someone on a legal visit such as an attorney. You can try contacting the inmate's unit counselor to facilitate a power of attorney since it can cover more than just financial matters.


http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-156962.html

 

[Whisperer]

What would stop a family membe frorm filing for you since it is done electronically? The money would be transferred to a checking account within 10 days. If tn has an acct with his name on it, it is smooth sailing......for awhile anyway.

 

[Crosby87]

What would stop a family membe frorm filing for you since it is done electronically? The money would be transferred to a checking account within 10 days. If tn has an acct with his name on it, it is smooth sailing......for awhile anyway.

It is my understanding the IRS will not send Ron a refund because he owes a fine.

 

[Baznme]

Just thinking out loud here but it's possible this tax issue could get real sticky for RC if those donations given to him by individuals and/or businesses have claimed them as donations to him on their own tax returns.

He's definitely no non-profit agency, so he would have to pay the taxes on that..........no?

 

[1Chump]

Your only legally required to file taxes if you owe money. Are prisoners required to file taxes no matter what? Not trying to argue with you, I am curious if there's a requirement.

Actually, rather you owe money or not has nothing to do with filing requirements.

From IRS Pub. 501Who Must File

If you are a U.S. citizen or resident alien, whether you must file a federal income tax return depends on your gross income, your filing status, your age, and whether you are a dependent. For details, see Table 1 and Table 2. You also must file if one of the situations described in Table 3 applies. The filing requirements apply even if you owe no tax.

 

[1Chump]

What would stop a family membe frorm filing for you since it is done electronically? The money would be transferred to a checking account within 10 days. If tn has an acct with his name on it, it is smooth sailing......for awhile anyway.

The same reason as why Ron would not file. If they are not going to get the money, there is no reason for them to file.

It does not matter how it is filed, his social security number should be flagged so the money will not be released to him but to whoever has filed against his social security number.

That is the biggest reason to get a Court Order for back child support. I know many people who don't bother because they don't think they will be able to collect. But once you get the Order, you file it with the IRS so any refund goes asent to you for back child support and not to the person who files.

 

[1Chump]

Just thinking out loud here but it's possible this tax issue could get real sticky for RC if those donations given to him by individuals and/or businesses have claimed them as donations to him on their own tax returns.

He's definitely no non-profit agency, so he would have to pay the taxes on that..........no?

While you are right, I doubt that Ron would think of that.

IMO, Ron will only do something if it benefits him. As he would not get to spend any refund the way he wants to spend it, he won't file for it.

 

[uvamerica]

Ok what is going on with TN. I have been wandering around trying to find some info on her. I came across (http//***************.com/teresanevesandLE.html) and found some interesting questions about her. TN claims that someone broke into her home and stole a box of Haleighs clothes? TN claims to have reported that someone broke into her computer and stole photos and replaced them with photos that belonged to Marie Griffi's? TN also claims she reported these to LE but they never investigated. My biggest question is WHY would LE warn her that her phone is being tapped and was told by LE to 'shut her ****ing mouth' and that she was threatened with arrest! Why would LE tell anyone their phone is tapped? does that not defeat the purpose? and how did she really get to RC's house so fast that night? What does she have to shut up about? somethings very fishy with TN's link to LE I wonder what that link is?:banghead:

 

[Whisperer]

It is my understanding the IRS will not send Ron a refund because he owes a fine.[/QUOTE if

It would take awhile before the feds pick up that rc is incarcerated. They never received that info from the state very quickly. Unless, things have changed, they could have received a refund and will eventually have to pay it back if they did.

 

[Whisperer]

Going to have to put out a BOLO for Jeff H. His house was foreclosed this month. The paperwork was delivered to TN on Nov. 5th, 2010. Jeff has owned it for 11 years. It was in Lady Lake. TN and Jeff H were renting another place (very upscale) and Jeff H already had a place at the time Haleigh vanished.


I will make a guess and say TN and CC (maybe Jeff) will move near the prison up north. TN doesn't stay too long at any one place.

 

[lonetraveler]

Just thinking out loud here but it's possible this tax issue could get real sticky for RC if those donations given to him by individuals and/or businesses have claimed them as donations to him on their own tax returns.

He's definitely no non-profit agency, so he would have to pay the taxes on that..........no?

LOl, I just got the giggles here just thinking about Ron filling in the Employment section of the IRS form...................LOL, Drug Dealing??????? Ha, too bad he doesn't have to pay taxes on his income...........

 

[tehcloser]

I was just thinking. If they found Haleigh's remains at this point, would it really change anything? (As far as charges go.) No one is talking, I don't see that changing. Finding a COD after all this time, good luck with that. At least she would be home, but other than that, I'm not sure anything else would change.