General theory thread and motives rehashed #3

[SweetDreamOfYou]

LOl, I just got the giggles here just thinking about Ron filling in the Employment section of the IRS form...................LOL, Drug Dealing??????? Ha, too bad he doesn't have to pay taxes on his income...........

you do owe taxes on illegal income that's how they got al capone. wonder if they can get him for that too lol.

 

[Whisperer]

I was just thinking. If they found Haleigh's remains at this point, would it really change anything? (As far as charges go.) No one is talking, I don't see that changing. Finding a COD after all this time, good luck with that. At least she would be home, but other than that, I'm not sure anything else would change.

It would depend where they found it....that may help solve the case. If it was wrapped in something, that would really help. Haleigh is just so tiny..*sigh*

 

[Whisperer]

I was just thinking. If they found Haleigh's remains at this point, would it really change anything? (As far as charges go.) No one is talking, I don't see that changing. Finding a COD after all this time, good luck with that. At least she would be home, but other than that, I'm not sure anything else would change.

It would depend where they found it....that may help solve the case. If it was wrapped in something, that would really help. They're all lawyered up, the case is going nowhere w/o evidence/dna. :banghead:

 

[Whisperer]

Did they find any evidence in the trailer? All they said was there was evidence in the mh that misty's events of the evening can not be taken as true given what they have. WTH?

Misty cooked, cleaned and washed blankets. She put two different DVD's in two different recordersl. They could be talking there was no evidence to support those claims.

But did they find any evidence that Haleigh was harmed inside? :banghead:

 

[lil momma]

Did they find any evidence in the trailer? All they said was there was evidence in the mh that misty's events of the evening can not be taken as true given what they have. WTH?

Misty cooked, cleaned and washed blankets. She put two different DVD's in two different recordersl. They could be talking there was no evidence to support those claims.

But did they find any evidence that Haleigh was harmed inside? :banghead:[/QUOTE]

Did they find any evidence that HaLeigh was even in the MH? IMO, I would think that after almost two years that LE would reach out for help in trying to solve this case. I just don't understand why they don't want help....

 

[tehcloser]

I have followed other cases since Haleigh, and I can say this with out a doubt. Putnam County needs to be ashamed of the way they handled this case. They blew it from the get go. All that remains to be seen is was it simply bad police work or something else. And after all this time and they STILL have not come out and said, ok, here's what we have and we need help.......makes me lean toward it being something else.

 

[SailorMoon]

I still cannot figure out for the life of me why that mobile home was held for so long and nothing seemed to come from it. I mean what the???

 

[Nonni Brenda]

Thanks Whisperer,

Here is the link to the Lake County Florida, Clerk of the Circuit Court and how I found the eviction notice for Neves, T & H, Jeff

http://www.lakecountyclerk.org/

- go to records search, scroll down and click on official records (lake)
- scroll down form & click on box that says you accept disclaimer & notices
- press continue
- enter party name
- click on view

I was curious about the 2007 date. Contrary to what was posted on TN's thread, her divorce from Mr. Neves was dissolved in 2007, not 2005.

TN may have changed her address to 105 Rita Lane in March of 2010, but it is the address she gave LE the night HaLeigh vanished which is on the incident report.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/02/13/putnam.pdf

It is so strange that so many people in the Sykes/Neves/Cummings have, at different times, claimed this 105 Rita Lane address. Could it be that no one really has lived there, they just use that location as an address when they need to give an address in that area to cover for something? Not sure if I am saying that right...KWIM?

 

[little lulu]

I have followed other cases since Haleigh, and I can say this with out a doubt. Putnam County needs to be ashamed of the way they handled this case. They blew it from the get go. All that remains to be seen is was it simply bad police work or something else. And after all this time and they STILL have not come out and said, ok, here's what we have and we need help.......makes me lean toward it being something else.

I totally agree, Hickory Police did not quit until they found Zahra. One month in that case as opposed to 20 months and counting on Haleigh's..
I think it's totally cold and they are too proud to admit it. Otherwise, like you said, they could ask for help.

 

[Zoe Bogart]

As far as what Junior did see or did not see, I don't think they considered LE asking about what happened that day BEFORE Haleigh disappeared. Ron several times gave interviews where he was angry that LE was asking questions about BEFORE Haleigh disappeared.

IMO, Junior was with GGma Sykes that day.

"He was asleep. I got there 10 minutes after we noticed she was gone. I had Junior, he said he didn't know anything...said he was asleep," Haleigh's great grandmother, Annette Sykes, told First Coast News on Monday.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/news-article.aspx?storyid=132095

IMO, what she is saying is that she had Junior who was sleeping. Ten minutes after she got there, they noticed that Haleigh had died.

Then you have the mad dash to GGma Sykes alledgedly to get Haleigh the clothes she wanted to wear that day. Even GREAT parents to not make a dash for a certain outfit.

IMO, the mad dash was to pick up Haleigh to take her to school. Junior was left with GGma Sykes so Ron could sleep. They did not want to admit that Ron/Misty were still fighting so started the lies to make everything look great on Sunday night believing that LE would only be interested in the last time Haleigh was seen and not leading up to that night.

Snipped to keep only info pertinent to my response.

Your thoughts about Junior not being with them that day makes so much sense, he was elsewhere, probably with Grandma Sykes.

Throughout this whole time, the most obvious omission to me was the lack of "voice" from Junior, the lack of conversation from the players about what Junior was really doing, the fact that all sorts of noise was going on in the mobile home, but yet, Little Junior was sleeping through it all. What? No kid sleeps that soundly (without assistance). It makes more sense that he wasn't there and was brought there sometime just before or after the 911 call. Surely the little one would have been frightened having Misty searching & screaming for Haleigh, Ron having a fit when arriving home (or pretending to for the benefit of the 911 dispatcher) and Haleigh gone, and hearing the commotion of the 911 call ("How could you let my daughter get stole, b****?"). Wouldn't someone have mentioned the boys' reaction to that? Yet, on that 911 call, we don't hear them talking to him, but we do hear RC & Misty screaming at each other. No reaction from the boy? Not likely.

Each person's story omits Junior. Sure they might say he was sleeping with Misty, but they never mention what he was doing during the panicky "Where's Haleigh?". It's a glaring omission. Something the adults forgot to account for. Where was Jr. when Haleigh got off the bus? Was he really outside playing, or did the A/C guy see Tommy's kids & others, and assumed some of them were Ron's?

Oh, sure, we have the "man/men in black story" but could he have dreamed it later, or even overheard the conspirators discussing this as a possible scenario after the child was gone? Then he mentioned it to his mom because his mind was playing it in his head? :waitasec:

Junior's absence in all their versions has always bothered me. Where was Junior?

 

[lonetraveler]

I have followed other cases since Haleigh, and I can say this with out a doubt. Putnam County needs to be ashamed of the way they handled this case. They blew it from the get go. All that remains to be seen is was it simply bad police work or something else. And after all this time and they STILL have not come out and said, ok, here's what we have and we need help.......makes me lean toward it being something else.

I totally agree with your post tehcloser. The case was mishandled in the beginning and then I think that LE had to go to great pains to hide their screwups and that in itself caused a domino effect and the investigation went to hell in a handbasket. No one in LE are willing to be the "cause" of the mishandled investigation and they do not want another agency to come in and discover their screwup. LE decided to go for the drug charges in an attempt to makeup for mishandling Haleigh's case because they most likely saw that there was no way that the prosecutor would ever agree to an arrest and trial based upon the total lack of evidence LE had that could actually be used in a court of law.

 

[lonetraveler]

Snipped to keep only info pertinent to my response.

Your thoughts about Junior not being with them that day makes so much sense, he was elsewhere, probably with Grandma Sykes.

Throughout this whole time, the most obvious omission to me was the lack of "voice" from Junior, the lack of conversation from the players about what Junior was really doing, the fact that all sorts of noise was going on in the mobile home, but yet, Little Junior was sleeping through it all. What? No kid sleeps that soundly (without assistance). It makes more sense that he wasn't there and was brought there sometime just before or after the 911 call. Surely the little one would have been frightened having Misty searching & screaming for Haleigh, Ron having a fit when arriving home (or pretending to for the benefit of the 911 dispatcher) and Haleigh gone, and hearing the commotion of the 911 call ("How could you let my daughter get stole, b****?"). Wouldn't someone have mentioned the boys' reaction to that? Yet, on that 911 call, we don't hear them talking to him, but we do hear RC & Misty screaming at each other. No reaction from the boy? Not likely.

Each person's story omits Junior. Sure they might say he was sleeping with Misty, but they never mention what he was doing during the panicky "Where's Haleigh?". It's a glaring omission. Something the adults forgot to account for. Where was Jr. when Haleigh got off the bus? Was he really outside playing, or did the A/C guy see Tommy's kids & others, and assumed some of them were Ron's?

Oh, sure, we have the "man/men in black story" but could he have dreamed it later, or even overheard the conspirators discussing this as a possible scenario after the child was gone? Then he mentioned it to his mom because his mind was playing it in his head? :waitasec:

Junior's absence in all their versions has always bothered me. Where was Junior?

Hi friend, I agree with you! The omission of Jr. in this IMO contrived story is the 800 lb. gorilla in the room. The lies started "big time" from the 911 call forward. It seems to me that as soon as LE discovered that Ron, Misty, Teresa and Annette were lying that LE could have arrested them for obstruction. Who knows? With the grandmas in jail maybe this case could have been solved a lot sooner.

 

[lonetraveler]

I totally agree, Hickory Police did not quit until they found Zahra. One month in that case as opposed to 20 months and counting on Haleigh's..
I think it's totally cold and they are too proud to admit it. Otherwise, like you said, they could ask for help.

It has always been my opinion that members of the Putnam Co. LE could not afford for certain information to be published and it wasn't in their best interests to dig too deep in their investigation of Haleigh's case. JMO, but I believe that the Cummings side of the family know alot about some of the LE involved with this case.

 

[lonetraveler]

you do owe taxes on illegal income that's how they got al capone. wonder if they can get him for that too lol.

Yep, I know that you owe taxes on illegal income! Ironic that Ron was receiving a tax refund during the time that he was dealing drugs.

 

[little lulu]

I totally agree with your post tehcloser. The case was mishandled in the beginning and then I think that LE had to go to great pains to hide their screwups and that in itself caused a domino effect and the investigation went to hell in a handbasket. No one in LE are willing to be the "cause" of the mishandled investigation and they do not want another agency to come in and discover their screwup. LE decided to go for the drug charges in an attempt to makeup for mishandling Haleigh's case because they most likely saw that there was no way that the prosecutor would ever agree to an arrest and trial based upon the total lack of evidence LE had that could actually be used in a court of law.

Excellent observation...I agree.
My gosh, in Ohio...they found a little girl alive, three bodies in a tree in less than two weeks....Zahra's case in less than a month.. and shamefully, almost two years on this and they give out 0 information, it's stone cold .

 

[lonetraveler]

Excellent observation...I agree.
My gosh, in Ohio...they found a little girl alive, three bodies in a tree in less than two weeks....Zahra's case in less than a month.. and shamefully, almost two years on this and they give out 0 information, it's stone cold .

Haleigh Cummings, Nevaeh Buchannan and Trenton Duckett's cases are so frustrating to me because these three appeared to be so easy to solve, but we still wait and wait and wait............. :banghead:

 

[MysteryAddict]

Haleigh Cummings, Nevaeh Buchannan and Trenton Duckett's cases are so frustrating to me because these three appeared to be so easy to solve, but we still wait and wait and wait............. :banghead:

Along with our Haleigh, we wait and wait for word on the McStay family of 4 who just mysteriously disappeared from the planet and our dear little man Kyron every day we wait for word and none comes forth.

We can't help but wonder if some cases are taken more seriously from day 1 than
others and there must be a difference in the quality of police work in some cases.

 

[uvamerica]

I was just thinking. If they found Haleigh's remains at this point, would it really change anything? (As far as charges go.) No one is talking, I don't see that changing. Finding a COD after all this time, good luck with that. At least she would be home, but other than that, I'm not sure anything else would change.

Hi Tehcloser,Finding Haleighs remains could change everything and point to her killer. Where the remains are found is important, what condition they are in , and what evidence can be gleaned from the scene and the remains can tell us much information. So whether someone talks or not evidence can tell us what they are not saying. So lets pray that Haleigh is found soon.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

Hi Tehcloser,Finding Haleighs remains could change everything and point to her killer. Where the remains are found is important, what condition they are in , and what evidence can be gleaned from the scene and the remains can tell us much information. So whether someone talks or not evidence can tell us what they are not saying. So lets pray that Haleigh is found soon.

I agree uva. Just the location could give clues in directions that should be investigated more thoroughly in other directions. for example, if the well location mentioned in the letter proves to be where remains are found, then who wrote that letter becomes more important.

If remains are not found in a well as mentioned in the letter, it looks like just a crackpot wrote it. But if someone does fine a well that has Haleigh's remains in it, that changes everything. JMO

 

[Emeralgem]

Hi Tehcloser,Finding Haleighs remains could change everything and point to her killer. Where the remains are found is important, what condition they are in , and what evidence can be gleaned from the scene and the remains can tell us much information. So whether someone talks or not evidence can tell us what they are not saying. So lets pray that Haleigh is found soon.

BBM...Exactly.... And IMO Ronald Cummings and his family were well aware of that fact and that is WHY they made certain no one would know how and where her remains were disposed of... I agree with Tim Miller...Haleigh's remains will never be found...JMHO..