General theory thread and motives rehashed #4

[Elphaba]

After watching a documentary called The Wild & Wonderful Whites of West Virginia and getting insight into a family subculture that reminds me of of the Satsuma clans involved in this case, I feel that we will never get answers... they simply do not snitch on each other and will protect each other no matter what.

 

[Emeralgem]

Hmmm, wonder if Mr. M sent Ron a bill for that little bit of advise... :waitasec: well above and beyond the call of duty wouldn't you say?

ETA: On second thought, it was probably a freebie!

I suspect it was free advice.. Seems he is always available to help Ron C out when trouble arises...JMHo

 

[nomoresorrow]

LOL.. Maybe I'll send it to PCSO and LE down there so they can get the ball rolling and put some pressure on TN for a change......j/k JMHO

I vote "yes" to that Em. I truly think this investigation might actually get somewhere if LE were to build upon this timeline of yours - it's the only one that fits with everything leading up to, and following the crime!
JMO~

 

[krkrjx]

Yeah, but if they lived their with a roomate, that would squash it all. I would like to see who owns the place and what were the circumstances of them being there.

Has anyone ever checked into who owned the MH at 130 Magnolia Lane? (I believe it is Lane, not Street or Drive, etc.) For some reason I recall info being put out that the Magnolia MH was owned by some relative of Lisa's. I can't say where I got this idea from as I really do not remember.

 

[Emeralgem]

Has anyone ever checked into who owned the MH at 130 Magnolia Lane? (I believe it is Lane, not Street or Drive, etc.) For some reason I recall info being put out that the Magnolia MH was owned by some relative of Lisa's. I can't say where I got this idea from as I really do not remember.

I recall hearing a relative owned the MH too..Can't remember IF the name was Overstreet or IF it was Lisa's maiden name which I can't recall at this time...Lisa's sister went to Florida from Tennessee to help them move though.. I do remember that.JMHO

 

[Chablis]

Has anyone ever checked into who owned the MH at 130 Magnolia Lane? (I believe it is Lane, not Street or Drive, etc.) For some reason I recall info being put out that the Magnolia MH was owned by some relative of Lisa's. I can't say where I got this idea from as I really do not remember.

I just have not seen any evidence that they have not searched this place. You would think any place that Misty would have had access to would have been searched. If they went so far to scour the landfills, I cant see them glossing over this residence.

 

[krkrjx]

I recall hearing a relative owned the MH too..Can't remember IF the name was Overstreet or IF it was Lisa's maiden name which I can't recall at this time...Lisa's sister went to Florida from Tennessee to help them move though.. I do remember that.JMHO

My recall says the owner's name was Overstreet. I wish I knew how to look such things up!!

 

[krkrjx]

I just have not seen any evidence that they have not searched this place. You would think any place that Misty would have had access to would have been searched. If they went so far to scour the landfills, I cant see them glossing over this residence.

Yes, you would think....

I still see the Magnolia area as something open to discussion.

JMO and all that jazz.

 

[Chablis]

Yes, you would think....

I still see the Magnolia area as something open to discussion.

JMO and all that jazz.

Yes, I am not really sure where I said I wanted the discussion squashed?

I am just pointing out that the childs lying father couldnt bear to move back into a home even after getting enough money to pay any back rent he may have owed. The childs father lost all hope, he just didn't think she was coming back, and for someone to lose hope like that is not normal...but then he goes on and marries the key and continued to try to decieve the public by saying they broke up, and about a week before they were imprisoned together, Rons cousin is at Mistys side whiles shes getting Ronalds name on her, AFTER a divorce. I find that just as much open discussion as everything else.

IF Misty was cleaning and doing laundry without soap and Ron is all talking secretive to someone about the bed being made when he got home... I just find it weird. I am entertaining the shooing theory but putting it in the place where the little girl was last known. I do think maybe a bed has been moved out of the house, its just as plausible as anything else.

 

[Dr. Know?]

130 Magnolia isn't owned by an Overstreet. A while back you could do a white page search and find that one of JO's sisters and even another relative who's been in and out of Putnam jail having been listed at that address. I can't find that now. Anyone can change who lives where on the white pages I've heard.

Per the county appraiser's site, the current owner is not a familar name in the case. Close to a familar name but spelled differently. Not Cummings, Croslins or Neves etc....

I do see that when Haleigh went missing, with Hank & Lisa moving so fast and living with Tommy, that the LE may not have known of the Magnolia address. If they didn't tell the LE that fact, who would know? They may have had recently moved there also? They weren't getting arrested back then for LE to have known this info.

Yeah, I can see this not being brought up right away. I am not hell bent on this, just curious as all get out on it and will remain so until one day facts are presented by LE and Haleigh is brought home.

 

[titanfan62702]

I just have not seen any evidence that they have not searched this place. You would think any place that Misty would have had access to would have been searched. If they went so far to scour the landfills, I cant see them glossing over this residence.

Did they search AS's place? How about TN's or did they even determined where she lived?

 

[Emeralgem]

I just have not seen any evidence that they have not searched this place. You would think any place that Misty would have had access to would have been searched. If they went so far to scour the landfills, I cant see them glossing over this residence.

And I haven't seen any evidence that indicates LE did search that place on Magnolia...I haven't seen any evidence any other residences belonging to any of the Croslins or the Cummings/Neves/Sykes Clan were ever searched either.. Wait a sec.. I do believe I heard Tommy's residence and some other residences in the neighborhood may have been searched but I haven't heard of them searching Annette Sykes' house or anyone else in her family..

For the most part LE was hold up on Green Lane for almost three weeks...Doing what, I don't know but they were there.. They didn't even take the door until after they had released the MH on Green Lane back to the family...
BTW.. To our knowledge NO vehicles were searched either other than the van that was taken in.. Tommy even sold a truck right afterwards that none of us knew anything about until the LVA test and Tim Miller contacted LE about it... GGMS also sold a vehicle right after Haleigh was reported as missing... JMHO

 

[krkrjx]

130 Magnolia isn't owned by an Overstreet. A while back you could do a white page search and find that one of JO's sisters and even another relative who's been in and out of Putnam jail having been listed at that address. I can't find that now. Anyone can change who lives where on the white pages I've heard.

Per the county appraiser's site, the current owner is not a familar name in the case. Close to a familar name but spelled differently. Not Cummings, Croslins or Neves etc....

I do see that when Haleigh went missing, with Hank & Lisa moving so fast and living with Tommy, that the LE may not have known of the Magnolia address. If they didn't tell the LE that fact, who would know? They may have had recently moved there also? They weren't getting arrested back then for LE to have known this info.

Yeah, I can see this not being brought up right away. I am not hell bent on this, just curious as all get out on it and will remain so until one day facts are presented by LE and Haleigh is brought home.

BBM: THANK YOU! That might be where I came to associate the name Overstreet with the Magnolia addy.

In the beginning it was treated as a stranger abduction. LE would have no reason to think anyone lived at any address other than what they gave. Misty could have said Green Lane or Tyler. There would really be no reason for LE to even consider having to search Magnolia Lane address, IMO. But after a while it should have been done...and who knows, maybe it was.

 

[Emeralgem]

Yes, I am not really sure where I said I wanted the discussion squashed?

I am just pointing out that the childs lying father couldnt bear to move back into a home even after getting enough money to pay any back rent he may have owed. The childs father lost all hope, he just didn't think she was coming back, and for someone to lose hope like that is not normal...but then he goes on and marries the key and continued to try to decieve the public by saying they broke up, and about a week before they were imprisoned together, Rons cousin is at Mistys side whiles shes getting Ronalds name on her, AFTER a divorce. I find that just as much open discussion as everything else.

IF Misty was cleaning and doing laundry without soap and Ron is all talking secretive to someone about the bed being made when he got home... I just find it weird. I am entertaining the shooing theory but putting it in the place where the little girl was last known. I do think maybe a bed has been moved out of the house, its just as plausible as anything else.

Well IMO IF you come to the realization you shot your own child and she is deceased due to your own out of control temper, I would think that would be reason enough to immediately lose ALL hope your child is ever going to return home ever again..

IMO Haleigh was last known to be seen at the bus stop...I don't buy GGMS saw Haleigh alive and well close to 8:00 pm on February 9, 2009.. She or someone else in her family came up with that story in order to provide an alibi for Ron C because they knew he had arrived at work by that time that night...JMHO

 

[dodie20]

I just have not seen any evidence that they have not searched this place. You would think any place that Misty would have had access to would have been searched. If they went so far to scour the landfills, I cant see them glossing over this residence.

I remember Tim Miller saying things weren't as they seemed so I've been kind of going with that...maybe the reporting didn't make as many mistakes as we thought and maybe LE wasn't as bumfuzzled as we thought. Thinking about Misty with that black trash bag got me to thinking about the different dumpsters and it led me to think that LE probably DID immediately check all the area's dumpsters and then went back to the construction dumpster...probably based on a tip. maybe a neighbor saw somebody connected to Haleigh dump a black trash bag in it? The dogs did hit on it, but did they really hit on a kotex? a kotex in a construction dumpster? IDK, but I'm thinking of the Croslins being in the drywall business. I'd like to see some pictures of what was in that dumpster. Also, early on, it was reported that Ron's cousin was babysitting. Well, maybe his cousin WAS there. We all just assumed that Misty's gf status was being swept under the rug. maybe maybe not. Also, there's been a lot of confusion on some of Greenwood's statements and a lot of people assume he was misinformed or ill prepared. What if his statements are taken at face value? Unless he corrects himself, I think they should be. It's really easy to make excuses and justify certain actions to fit a certain mind set, but maybe things aren't as they seem. I think LE is on top of this investigation and has investigated every dumpster, every house, every vehicle...I just can't imagine them ignoring the obvious. Sorry to ramble on, but thinking like this makes me view things a little differently. MOO

 

[krkrjx]

I believe LE said they had searched all the MH's in the neighborhood of the Green Lane MH. Also all the homes of the RSOs. They searched all outbuildings as well. The homes where no one was home were searched as soon as the resident returned home, IIRC. We never heard if AS, TN homes were searched, and no mention was ever made by LE about anything concerning the Magnolia Lane address. Doesn't mean it wasn't searched, but just because it would be proper procedure doesn't mean it was searched. All we know is in all the places LE searched nothing was ever found.

Something told LE this was no stranger abduction and I am not buying that it was just no forced entry. Something at Green Lane told LE that Misty's story didn't cut it. We have never been told what that something is.

 

[Emeralgem]

130 Magnolia isn't owned by an Overstreet. A while back you could do a white page search and find that one of JO's sisters and even another relative who's been in and out of Putnam jail having been listed at that address. I can't find that now. Anyone can change who lives where on the white pages I've heard.

Per the county appraiser's site, the current owner is not a familar name in the case. Close to a familar name but spelled differently. Not Cummings, Croslins or Neves etc....

I do see that when Haleigh went missing, with Hank & Lisa moving so fast and living with Tommy, that the LE may not have known of the Magnolia address. If they didn't tell the LE that fact, who would know? They may have had recently moved there also? They weren't getting arrested back then for LE to have known this info.

Yeah, I can see this not being brought up right away. I am not hell bent on this, just curious as all get out on it and will remain so until one day facts are presented by LE and Haleigh is brought home.

BBM Hi Dr.Know.. What do you mean by close to a familar name but spelled differently? And are you saying someone may have changed the name on the white pages? JMHO

 

[krkrjx]

Yes, I am not really sure where I said I wanted the discussion squashed?

I am just pointing out that the childs lying father couldnt bear to move back into a home even after getting enough money to pay any back rent he may have owed. The childs father lost all hope, he just didn't think she was coming back, and for someone to lose hope like that is not normal...but then he goes on and marries the key and continued to try to decieve the public by saying they broke up, and about a week before they were imprisoned together, Rons cousin is at Mistys side whiles shes getting Ronalds name on her, AFTER a divorce. I find that just as much open discussion as everything else.

IF Misty was cleaning and doing laundry without soap and Ron is all talking secretive to someone about the bed being made when he got home... I just find it weird. I am entertaining the shooing theory but putting it in the place where the little girl was last known. I do think maybe a bed has been moved out of the house, its just as plausible as anything else.

I have wondered from the beginning if a mattress was moved. That could have been what was in or near the dumpster...placed there for a bit til a truck could be driven over to remove it. We never got to see Junior's room, not when TN did the walk-through, and not when RC did his walkthrough where he opened Haleigh's door and said it's "where she resided."

THe little mattress we saw could have been Junior's, not Haleigh's. If so, Haleigh's mattress was missing.

Also have wondered if a blanket is missing--other than Misty's--one from the MH.

 

[Emeralgem]

I believe LE said they had searched all the MH's in the neighborhood of the Green Lane MH. Also all the homes of the RSOs. They searched all outbuildings as well. The homes where no one was home were searched as soon as the resident returned home, IIRC. We never heard if AS, TN homes were searched, and no mention was ever made by LE about anything concerning the Magnolia Lane address. Doesn't mean it wasn't searched, but just because it would be proper procedure doesn't mean it was searched. All we know is in all the places LE searched nothing was ever found.

Something told LE this was no stranger abduction and I am not buying that it was just no forced entry. Something at Green Lane told LE that Misty's story didn't cut it. We have never been told what that something is.

I recall hearing Tommy tell his father Ron shot at a mirror...Personally, I'm interested in knowing where and when did this incident occur....... JMHO

 

[krkrjx]

In five years will we still be here discussing these same issues? I feel this case is never going to move beyond where it is, at least not anytime soon. The answers, if any, will probably come when Misty is the only one still in prison. It certainly looks as though LE will be making no further statements; actually they have said they won't.