General theory thread and motives rehashed #4

[titanfan62702]

OMG are you serious? lol{and no it's no laughing matter}but the sheer lunacy of hearing that was said is just over the top.. You mean when told of the possible siting in Knoxville[at I believe it was a Cabarrera's Steak house or something similar in name]that Teresa non chalantly said she glad to hear that Haleigh was being fed well??..That is just so insane I can hardly believe it?!! WoW!

I hadn't heard that one, but you're absolute right -- insane.

 

[lonetraveler]

http://www.wftv.com/news/18748531/detail.html

I've been trying to find the article concerning a car that was taken from the woods behind Ron's MH. Did LE ever make a statement about the car after it was processed?

 

[Baznme]

I don't recall IF they issued a statement saying they lost the door, but it came out during that Round Table Conference.. I do recall someone in PCSO discussing Haleigh's bedding being taken out on the ramp..JMHO

Yeah....another cool move on the part of PCSO.......sheesh.

 

[Emeralgem]

Strange, as often as RC was on TV, I don't remember him being that concerned about whether she was fed or cared for. He sounded more like he thought she was dead.

Reason being he knew she was deceased..His mother too..
ONLY time they ever acted like they were concerned about her health or her well being was when the two of them appeared on The Maury Povich Show..And IMO that was all for show..
Key word in the above sentence is acted JMHO

Come to think about it ALL they did was play up her illness.. But I don't recall hearing Teresa Neves or her son plea to her aleged abductor to seek medical attention for her.. All Teresa Neves requested was to bring her home because her son was living in HELL..We can always count on Teresa Neves to make it all about her beloved Ronald...JMHO..

 

[4Jacy]

Reason being he knew she was deceased..His mother too..
ONLY time they ever acted like they were concerned about her health or her well being was when the two of them appeared on The Maury Povich Show..And IMO that was all for show..
Key word in the above sentence is acted JMHO

Come to think about it ALL they did was play up her illness.. But I don't recall hearing Teresa Neves or her son plea to her aleged abductor to seek medical attention for her.. All Teresa Neves requested was to bring her home because her son was living in HELL..We can always count on Teresa Neves to make it all about her beloved Ronald...JMHO..

The shallowness of these people never cease to amaze me. How could they wipe little Haleigh out of their hearts and emotions during these interviews. What kind of souls do they have, or don't they have any? MOO

 

[Chablis]

The shallowness of these people never cease to amaze me. How could they wipe little Haleigh out of their hearts and emotions during these interviews. What kind of souls do they have, or don't they have any? MOO

Teresa gave her kids up for what seems to be no good reason. Cant find a stint she did in prison, am pretty sure she didnt take those 10 years and become a Doctor or anything. The woman was forced to take her kids only because her step father was dying. About a year later she let her son move in a young gal, the basic building blocks off all this, indicate that this all starts with her, her son did not thrive in her care and I tend to wonder had she not given them up could they have turned out like Haleigh?

 

[Chablis]

Nope, she is correct it was Marie Griffis that made these statements five months into Haleigh's disappearance..and yep, the article is still online..Here's the direct quote and link to the article in its entirety{?ph}


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533101,00.html

Aww... seems like Teresa must have studied Marie and seen what a real grieving fearful in the dark grandparent looks like and tried to mimic her. TY for the link. jmo

 

[tiki21]

Teresa gave her kids up for what seems to be no good reason. Cant find a stint she did in prison, am pretty sure she didnt take those 10 years and become a Doctor or anything. The woman was forced to take her kids only because her step father was dying. About a year later she let her son move in a young gal, the basic building blocks off all this, indicate that this all starts with her, her son did not thrive in her care and I tend to wonder had she not given them up could they have turned out like Haleigh?

sadly i think every single one of them once had the same lifestyle little haleigh had up until her disappearance
i don't think any of them had a stable upbringing from Flora all the way down to Misty on the Croslin side and then Annette all the way down to Ron on the Cummings side
anyone of them could have turned out just like haleigh

IMO

 

[4Jacy]

Teresa gave her kids up for what seems to be no good reason. Cant find a stint she did in prison, am pretty sure she didnt take those 10 years and become a Doctor or anything. The woman was forced to take her kids only because her step father was dying. About a year later she let her son move in a young gal, the basic building blocks off all this, indicate that this all starts with her, her son did not thrive in her care and I tend to wonder had she not given them up could they have turned out like Haleigh?

Clever and thoughtful. I had heard that TN's new husband couldn't get along with RC, but I thought she kept Crystal with her. I have heard rumors as to what TN was doing during those ten years, but I would like to know for a fact if what I heard is true or not. Wonder how we could get this information. The tatt of his mother has always been disturbing to me.

 

[Whisperer]

Nope, she is correct it was Marie Griffis that made these statements five months into Haleigh's disappearance..and yep, the article is still online..Here's the direct quote and link to the article in its entirety{?ph}


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533101,00.html

I do not recall Marie saying that. I do recall TN saying it. Wonder if we have ANOTHER error in reporting..Of course, it is possible that Marie said the same thing as TN but....I have to scruitinize every article to figure out what is being reported...ugh! tired of it too!!

This Article is an example of very bad reporting. Teresa Neves made a statement like that within a few weeks after Haleigh disappeared and the video is still up. You can clearly see, by this article, how we are mislead. They did not seek out any of these people for and update. They rotated past articles they had and made it appear fresh. It is a sad song as to what happened to American Media.

First half of story relates to Paternal; second half to Sheffield. I bet the quote was insertedin the paternal accidently. I have followed through to the reporters and found them inaccurate.
They say they have no way to verify because LE won't talk to them. They grab off the AP and they take other stories and recycle them. I don't like when they use quotes unless we have a video to back it up. We have on with TN saying it. If the reporter actually interviewed marie (which is highly unlikely) we would have a video of Marie saying it. See how tricky they are! they even use quotes and we are led to think it is fresh....grrrr

I try not to use newpaper stories to make a point because of this problem. Bad editing and taking other reporters stories and rearranging the points leads to misunderstanding by the public.

 

[tiki21]

Clever and thoughtful. I had heard that TN's new husband couldn't get along with RC, but I thought she kept Crystal with her. I have heard rumors as to what TN was doing during those ten years, but I would like to know for a fact if what I heard is true or not. Wonder how we could get this information. The tatt of his mother has always been disturbing to me.

so many rumors about TN.. i sure wish i was around in the beginning of this case.. i was too caught up with caylee's case haha!

i guess we learned right there why ron was okay with separating haleigh and jr.. he learned that from his mama

 

[Lanie]

Teresa gave her kids up for what seems to be no good reason. Cant find a stint she did in prison, am pretty sure she didnt take those 10 years and become a Doctor or anything. The woman was forced to take her kids only because her step father was dying. About a year later she let her son move in a young gal, the basic building blocks off all this, indicate that this all starts with her, her son did not thrive in her care and I tend to wonder had she not given them up could they have turned out like Haleigh?

BBM

It's highly likely my brain has taken a misstep, but for some reason I was under the impression Ron moved in with Crystal and her mother instead of the other way around. Are you all sure it was Crystal moved in with Ron?

 

[Chablis]

BBM

It's highly likely my brain has taken a misstep, but for some reason I was under the impression Ron moved in with Crystal and her mother instead of the other way around. Are you all sure it was Crystal moved in with Ron?

Yeah, I am very sure.

 

[lil momma]

BBM

It's highly likely my brain has taken a misstep, but for some reason I was under the impression Ron moved in with Crystal and her mother instead of the other way around. Are you all sure it was Crystal moved in with Ron?

~snip~

In Leesburg, Cummings had lived with his mother and Crystal Sheffield, a 14-year-old who came from Putnam County where she met the year-older Cummings.

Sheffield, who would be the mother of Haleigh and Ronald Jr., left school in the ninth grade to be home-schooled but never went any further.

Her mother, Marie Griffis, said her daughter was supposed to visit Cummings in Leesburg for a weekend but never came home. Mother and daughter were not often in touch for the next two years, and Griffis said she sometimes did not know where Sheffield was.



Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...misty_lost_their_way_long_ago_1#ixzz1K5doz5at







http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...ed_ronald_and_misty_lost_their_way_long_ago_1

 

[Lanie]

Yeah, I am very sure.

~snip~

In Leesburg, Cummings had lived with his mother and Crystal Sheffield, a 14-year-old who came from Putnam County where she met the year-older Cummings.

Sheffield, who would be the mother of Haleigh and Ronald Jr., left school in the ninth grade to be home-schooled but never went any further.

Her mother, Marie Griffis, said her daughter was supposed to visit Cummings in Leesburg for a weekend but never came home. Mother and daughter were not often in touch for the next two years, and Griffis said she sometimes did not know where Sheffield was.



Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...misty_lost_their_way_long_ago_1#ixzz1K5doz5at







http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...ed_ronald_and_misty_lost_their_way_long_ago_1

Thank you, Chablis, and thank you, Lil Momma, for the clip. I like to keep my facts accurate.

 

[Beatrice]

In my opinion....

Haleigh died as a result of an accident. Most likely in the master bedroom while alone watching a video.

In one of Misty's many statements she had mentioned watching a video in the livingroom with Butterbean while Haleigh was in the bedroom watching another video. She mentions the children climbing up to replay the videos. (Had the lightweight computer table have fallen over on Haleigh?)
Someone tells of Ronald's erractic behavior...playing Russian Roulette with his gun, injecting drugs between his toes...(Had Haleigh been playing with the gun?)

Misty saying he had been doing "bleach cleaning"....Misty acknowledging that one blanket was in the "van they took." Misty drying an unwashed blanket...The release of urine by a dead Haleigh?


IMO The coverup is the crime. Their drug use/abuse being their main concern.

In my opinion, this is when Haleigh's body was finally disposed of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jThGMxjNtCk

 

[Beatrice]

Feb. 10......Haleigh missing

Mar. 3........3 weeks later, Ron & Misty drive 3+ hours, 175 miles...
to Pinellas Park, FL for what purpose?
To dispose of Haleigh along the route without any GPS on the borrowed truck?
To buy drugs? To use drugs? All 3?

Seems like the tattoo was a way of biding time before meeting someone.
Who would give Ronald $400. and say,
"Go get a MEMORIAL tattoo of Haleigh."
Who's black truck is it?

(Ronald's father lives 2 hours south in Fort Meyers.
Absconded sex predator, Chad Reyolds father lives in Pinellas Park near the tattoo shop.............)

 

[lil momma]

Feb. 10......Haleigh missing

Mar. 3........3 weeks later, Ron & Misty drive 3+ hours, 175 miles...
to Pinellas Park, FL for what purpose?
To dispose of Haleigh along the route without any GPS on the borrowed truck?
To buy drugs? To use drugs? All 3?Seems like the tattoo was a way of biding time before meeting someone.
Who would give Ronald $400. and say,
"Go get a MEMORIAL tattoo of Haleigh."
Who's black truck is it?

(Ronald's father lives 2 hours south in Fort Meyers.
Absconded sex predator, Chad Reyolds father lives in Pinellas Park near the tattoo shop.............)

BBM

I agree with most of your post, but can i ask what you think they did with HaLeigh's body for three weeks? where did they store it?

I do agree that there was more to this trip to the tattoo place then what we were lead to believe. IOW, how long that reporter followed Ron that day.

 

[Beatrice]

I *believe* the cadaver dogs had it right....

IMO Haleigh was initially placed in the dumpster nearby.
Later, moved to "Mondex" and 3 weeks later moved to a location between Satsuma and Pinellas Park.

 

[lonetraveler]

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal...police-say-haleigh-cummings-was-abducted.html

I found this article covering the Haleigh Cummings' case from very early on. Interesting parts and pieces with LE statements.

Thought I would share it and stimulate a bit of insight from y'all.