General theory thread and motives rehashed #5

[dodie20]

I don't recall that, if you can find a link, please post. AFAIK we aren't supposed to name minors, or sleuth them? DNA tests would be proof imo, which has not been done afaik. Case in point earlier where I posted up thread. fwiw I think parentage of a few children could be questioned, however, not something to sleuth IMO. JMO

I'm sorry, but I'm on my dd's laptop and the internet explorer is giving me fits. I found the link in Haleigh's media links, page 44, post # 1086. I don't know how accurate the paper is, but they used the information to help explain how Ron and Misty met. The child's name wasn't mentioned or sleuthed. JMO

 

[lonetraveler]

BOLO was issued for purple Altima and Ronald Cummings following a 911 call from Greatgrandmother of Ronald’s child: Link includes the 911 call. Slim black man knocked on her door after she saw Ronald drive through her parking lot. She was too afraid to answer the door. It appears Ronald had a lot of interest for a little child with his last name.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/22/exclusive-bolo-for-haleigh-cummings-dad/

 

[lonetraveler]

Its not sleuthing when its a known fact Ronald had a son with Amber named J<modsnip>, he exists. Is it possible to give your child another last name other than yours if the father does not sign? Its a shame that some can tear apart Crystal and her family over child support, but evidence that shows Ron is the same way needs to be hushed, that should bother alot of people. Why all the suppression and courtesy should be extended to the father of a missing child that cut off interviews with investigators and married the key who is now in prison is a travesty in finding out the truth in what happened to Haleigh.
jmo

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/22/exclusive-bolo-for-haleigh-cummings-dad/

&#8220;I wish I had seen him, I miss that little rascal,&#8221; said Amber&#8217;s grandmother, Mary recalls putting out crayons and coloring books for Haleigh and her little brother, Junior. Amber and Ronald would bring them to visit, she said, when Amber was pregnant with J<modsnip> and living with Cummings. &#8220;She watched Haleigh and Junior all the time.&#8221;

"In our interview, Mary Brooks told me that she&#8217;s has the birth certificate that names Cummings as the biological father, and has been caring for the baby for several months after Amber tumbled into an abyss of drugs and partying."

 

[Flossie JMO]

I'm sorry, but I'm on my dd's laptop and the internet explorer is giving me fits. I found the link in Haleigh's media links, page 44, post # 1086. I don't know how accurate the paper is, but they used the information to help explain how Ron and Misty met. The child's name wasn't mentioned or sleuthed. JMO

Thanks Dodie. I went back and read, thank you, and recall reading that when it came out, was hazy on the wording. I guess I misunderstood, I thought it was to be an article with his family stating he was the father during an interview, which couldn't have happened IMO. The part where it was stated sounded like a reposting of info we have all seen stated online, with no proof whatsoever. A moot point really, since to date there is no proof he is the father, and he was not ordered to pay child support, so I think comparing the two with only rumored fatherhood and no support ordered just isn't right. JMO

 

[mkay882]

IMO...I don't know what Crystal was ordered to pay monthly, but I suspect Ron C (when working) was making more money than Crystal was so IMHO... Half or even more of any support monies he was supposed to have received for Haleigh and Jr. should have immediately been given to his son J<modsnip>...JMHO

The lowest possible amount for Crystal IIRC.

Ron could have been a millionaire. That's not the point.
The point is Crystal was court ordered to pay child support for 2 of her children.
She did not.

There is no DNA proving Ron is J<modsnip>'s father.
Jordan's mother declined.

Crystal's court ordered support and Amber's rejection of DNA to show who her son's father might be were not Ron's decisions to make.

 

[mkay882]

I'm a little confused by this. I've read that Misty babysat for A, and that's one of the ways, she met Ron. After Misty and Ron got together, Misty supposedly wrote the myspace message about getting her man, etc...So, it seems that after the baby was born, Ron and A had some kind of relationship...which doesn't really jibe with the birth certificate omission...because it doesn't seem that she cut off ties with him until after Misty got with him. JMO

"Misty said" doesn't prove a thing.

 

[Emeralgem]

http://staugustine.com/stories/051609/news_051609_021.shtml


Snipped
Amber Brooks: She is the 20-year-old mother of Cummings' other son, J<modsnip>, who is disabled. Croslin was a baby sitter for Brooks and met Cummings after telling him Brooks was leaving her with the baby for long periods.

 

[Levi]

Crystal Sheffield's payment or non payment of child support is really not relevant. I don't think anyone who isn't a fringe Timothy Holmseth follower suspects she was involved... Why are some so hung up on her? I don't understand it. It is very weird.

Take Crystal out of the equation, and put the people who haven't cooperated, lied, and tried to thwart law enforcement, ie: Misty Croslin and Ronald Cummings... and put them under the microscope.

 

[Levi]

Ron and Amber had a sexual relationship.
The child has Ronald's middle and last name.
The child looks like Ronald.
Misty made comments about taking the child.
Amber's family says Ron is the father.

When asked if he had "other" children besides Haleigh and Ron Jr, Ronald told the media "possibly."

Come on... He is the father.

It is like waking up in the morning and finding tree limbs all over the yard, the grass wet, and the sky cloudy, you can draw a logical conclusion it stormed while you were sleeping. You didn't see it, but you know it happened...

Ron abandoned his son, it is just a fact. Shows you Ron's regard for his children.

 

[Kimster]

C'mon guys. Don't post names of minors in here. Y'all know better! Now I have to fix a bunch of posts and am grumpy.

 

[Emeralgem]

C'mon guys. Don't post names of minors in here. Y'all know better! Now I have to fix a bunch of posts and am grumpy.

I do apologize Kimster..I thought I had removed the child's name in my posts on the subject, but seems I didn't.. Again, sorry.. I didn't intend to create extra work for you and make you grumpy...JMHO

 

[Chablis]

There is no DNA proving Ron is J<modsnip>'s father.
censored mother declined.
.

Link?

 

[Chablis]

And one more thing...... um, if Ron wanted a DNA test, which does not matter because the child has the last name Cummings, are you saying he could not get a court order for DNA, are some trying to say the DNA people came to Ambers door and she said, oh no DNA test, and the Judge was just ok with that poor child not getting any support? The Judge would have had it ordered, enough excuses. JMO

 

[mkay882]

Crystal Sheffield's payment or non payment of child support is really not relevant. I don't think anyone who isn't a fringe Timothy Holmseth follower suspects she was involved... Why are some so hung up on her? I don't understand it. It is very weird.

Take Crystal out of the equation, and put the people who haven't cooperated, lied, and tried to thwart law enforcement, ie: Misty Croslin and Ronald Cummings... and put them under the microscope.

None of us know what is relevant in this case, or not, until it is solved.
No matter how much we "think" we know or "hear".

I'm not a "fringe follower" of anyone.
I have a mind of my own that will not be changed with innuendo and gossip
from those who "think".... lol :twocents:

 

[mkay882]

Link?

I'll look for it again and will post it as soon as you post the BC showing Cummings is on as the father or as J's last name.

Sorry Kim, for posting the child's name last night.

 

[mkay882]

And one more thing...... um, if Ron wanted a DNA test, which does not matter because the child has the last name Cummings, are you saying he could not get a court order for DNA, are some trying to say the DNA people came to Ambers door and she said, oh no DNA test, and the Judge was just ok with that poor child not getting any support? The Judge would have had it ordered, enough excuses. JMO

Exactly!
If what you say is true an order for Ron to support "J" should be on file as was with Ron and Crystal's children.
Right?

Maybe Ron isn't the father so wasn't ordered to pay?
He did say 'possible' so they apparently slept together.... but she and who else??
Until 'we' know.. um .. 'we' don't.
KWIM?

 

[Chablis]

I'll look for it again and will post it as soon as you post the BC showing Cummings is on as the father or as J's last name.

Sorry Kim, for posting the child's name last night.

I remember when the Chelsea Croslin thread was going on and based on extensive FB stalking, I remember you mentioning there was some marital issues between Chelsea and Tim and it was on her FB page,but you didnt know or see it but you knew someone who had access to her wall and all that, well Amber has a open FB where she posts pics of the son who looks just like Ron, and she says, this is my son, she lists his last name as Cummings and she posts pics of Haleigh and ****** and says, this is my babys brother and sister.

And with that I am done with this issue, I think its just disgusting this child is being cheapened like he does not need Daddys money or love or something, it borders on evil for me. Have at it!

 

[lil momma]

And one more thing...... um, if Ron wanted a DNA test, which does not matter because the child has the last name Cummings, are you saying he could not get a court order for DNA, are some trying to say the DNA people came to Ambers door and she said, oh no DNA test, and the Judge was just ok with that poor child not getting any support? The Judge would have had it ordered, enough excuses. JMO

I agree Chablis!

Amber could have very well just gone to court and petitioned support and UNLESS Ron denied responsibility of that child to the courts, the courts wouldn't have even asked for DNA. (regardless if Ron even showed up at the hearing....he would have been responsible for the support) Ron would have had to pursue the DNA testing. Amber probably never went after Ron, b/c she just wanted to cut ties with him. JMO.

 

[mkay882]

I'm done too.
Anyone can say anything. Doesn't make it the truth.

 

[Chablis]

I agree Chablis!

Amber could have very well just gone to court and petitioned support and UNLESS Ron denied responsibility of that child to the courts, the courts wouldn't have even asked for DNA. (regardless if Ron even showed up at the hearing....he would have been responsible for the support) Ron would have had to pursue the DNA testing. Amber probably never went after Ron, b/c she just wanted to cut ties with him. JMO.

Which leads me to believe this shows Ronald Cummings can not properly take care of special needs children, which Haleigh was, which could lead to motive. Believe me, I am happy Ambers family want nothing to do with that adorable happy ALIVE child.

jmo