George & Cindy's Response to "NO DEATH PENALTY" Decision

  • #161
Which goes to show that Cindy did not concoct the babysitter/kidnapping story with Casey.
I disagree. I just think they didn't plan it out well enough. They honestly thought LE would buy it hook, line, and sinker. It didn't happen and now they have had to "improvise". It has worked pretty well for them so far tho and they believe that they can get Casey out of this mess with these "alive" theories being thrown out for reasonable doubt.
 
  • #162
If you had a number for your grandchild's nanny for two years, wouldn't you think you would have called it at least once to see about picking her up, seeing if she was feeling ok, or a hey, how are you? When my children were at daycare, my parents, former in-laws, their aunts and uncles all knew the babysitter and where they lived and my parents would pick them up early on some days just to spend time with them.

All three of my kids spent time in daycare. Their grandparents on either side never knew the phone numbers or location of the daycare centers.

Keep in mind that Caylee rarely left Caylee with "Zanny". She usually "worked" evenings and left Caylee with Cindy.
 
  • #163
Right. Cindy had been led to believe that Zanny was real.
There is no way that Cindy thought ZG was real. They have discrepancies about when the family first heard of ZG. The control freak in Cindy would not have allowed Casey to dump her off with some unkown person. Not buying it.
 
  • #164
If Cindy didn't go into a fit of rage over the money and the car...no one would have ever known that Caylee was missing. They all could have kept this hidden indefinitely.

Casey, before Caylee went missing, fake deposited app. $4000 in A's account, causing Cindy to bounce a check she wrote to pay the mortgage. Casey stole $354 from her elderly grandparents who are not in the best of health before Caylee went missing. There have been references made to numerous credit card charges, and stealing checks from Lee. No police ever called.
Yet Cindy is going to go pick up a car from a tow yard that smells like what she knows is her dead granddaughter whom she helped make dead, go into a rage, call LE, tell them her granddaughter is missing and the car smells like a dead body, therefore giving LE a heads up about the child she helped kill, the same child no one has reported missing for a month, just because it pi$$ed her off to pay -$500 to pick up the car.
I just can't see it playing out this way.
Lanie
 
  • #165
I disagree. I just think they didn't plan it out well enough. They honestly thought LE would buy it hook, line, and sinker. It didn't happen and now they have had to "improvise". It has worked pretty well for them so far tho and they believe that they can get Casey out of this mess with these "alive" theories being thrown out for reasonable doubt.

Casey is sitting in jail facing murder one charges. I don't see that as "working out pretty well so far."
 
  • #166
Right. Cindy had been led to believe that Zanny was real.

But why wouldn't CA have ever called her or wanted to see her? She knew KC had been telling "mistruths" so why didn't she question her more about the nanny?
 
  • #167
All three of my kids spent time in daycare. Their grandparents on either side never knew the phone numbers or location of the daycare centers.

Keep in mind that Caylee rarely left Caylee with "Zanny". She usually "worked" evenings and left Caylee with Cindy.
I would have to assume that 1) neither of them try to control you or your children 2) they respect your decisions as a parent 3) they have no reason to doubt your judgement about others.

I know my grandchildren's sitters because of the time I have spent with my grands. Also, their names, addresses, and numbers are in plain sight for everyone in case of an emergency. It is frightening to me not to have other family members know where your children are in case something were to happen, imo.
 
  • #168
She only called because she became enraged at Casey at that point. She let her rage overload her @ss. It finally hit her that they would ask about Caylee and it is when she FINALLY mentions her as an afterthought. It was not supposed to come up! That is how this whole thing got started...Cindy's rage towards Casey.

There are plenty of things which point to them being involved starting with lying to authorities from the beginning. They even admit to digging up their backyard before LE can search it. Why?! Because the neighbors could have seen them and they had to say something.

Why would they ask about Caylee? If she was calling them to report Casey stole money and a car, what does Caylee have to do with it? Caylee did not even have to be brought up.
Lanie
 
  • #169
Now that they no longer have to worry about the DP, they can all relax.

No more pesky toddler to run after. No more lying, stealing daughter to bankrupt them.

Things should be nice and peaceful in the A home now. Plus there is another Grandbaby on the way! Isn't LA's gf pg?
 
  • #170
Casey is sitting in jail facing murder one charges. I don't see that as "working out pretty well so far."
Like I said, they never thought it would go this far. Telling her to stick with the story and keep her mouth shut has worked in Casey's favor, imo. They have her believing she can get out of this mess. Cindy even said it in the taped video calls.
 
  • #171
All three of my kids spent time in daycare. Their grandparents on either side never knew the phone numbers or location of the daycare centers.

Keep in mind that Caylee rarely left Caylee with "Zanny". She usually "worked" evenings and left Caylee with Cindy.

But were you living with them? KC didn't have a spouse or someone else to help with Caylee, so her parents and LA were next in charge.
 
  • #172
Why would they ask about Caylee? If she was calling them to report Casey stole money and a car, what does Caylee have to do with it? Caylee did not even have to be brought up.
Lanie
When LE arrived at the home to investigate Casey...they would have noticed all the child's things. What were they going to say? It would have raised red flags and LE would have investigated where she was.
 
  • #173
I would have to assume that 1) neither of them try to control you or your children 2) they respect your decisions as a parent 3) they have no reason to doubt your judgement about others.

I know my grandchildren's sitters because of the time I have spent with my grands. Also, their names, addresses, and numbers are in plain sight for everyone in case of an emergency. It is frightening to me not to have other family members know where your children are in case something were to happen, imo.

I think this is an important point! And it's even more significant because Casey & Caylee LIVED with Cindy and George-- it's VERY strange to me that Cindy never requested/demanded contact info for the nanny.
I tend to believe Cindy did demand a # for Zanny and, at some point, realized it was a fake number. I think it's possible she found a way to rationalize or forget this and did not turn this info over to LE.
I really just can't believe Cindy never asked for the nanny's contact info-- she was, IMO, essentially Caylee's mom. There's no way she wouldn't want to know who was watching Caylee.
 
  • #174
Casey, before Caylee went missing, fake deposited app. $4000 in A's account, causing Cindy to bounce a check she wrote to pay the mortgage. Casey stole $354 from her elderly grandparents who are not in the best of health before Caylee went missing. There have been references made to numerous credit card charges, and stealing checks from Lee. No police ever called.
Yet Cindy is going to go pick up a car from a tow yard that smells like what she knows is her dead granddaughter whom she helped make dead, go into a rage, call LE, tell them her granddaughter is missing and the car smells like a dead body, therefore giving LE a heads up about the child she helped kill, the same child no one has reported missing for a month, just because it pi$$ed her off to pay -$500 to pick up the car.
I just can't see it playing out this way.
Lanie

Of course it didn't play out that way. "Gee, I'll cover for you murdering the granddaughter that I love more than life itself, but the $500 it cost me to retrieve the car - the car that contains evidence of the murder - well, that's another story. I'm calling 911 over that!"
 
  • #175
The pants and hairbrush were given to LE voluntarily without a subpoena. You ASSUME the As knew something was wrong at the time that the learned Casey stole the gas. That doesn't mean they DID know. Casey had stole gas from them in the past, it was business as usual. LE is not, to my knowledge, investigating the mall sighting. They have stated they will no longer look for an alive Caylee.

Again, I see nothing that the Anthonys have done to delay or interfere with the search for Caylee, and I don't understand people placing blame on them, as if they know where she is. Casey is the one who is responsible for Caylee's death and only Casey knows where the body can be found - if it can be found.

Actually, if you read the pertinent documents, the hairbrush was acquired under court order, and it was misrepresented as Caylee's hairbrush. It is labelled Caylee's brush, not a shared one, or one belonging to another person. The As, in this case, hinder the identification of Caylee, while LE searches for her body.

Meanwhile, the washing of the pants is just as likely an attempt to get rid of evidence that might have aided in the search for Caylee's body. They may have had her DNA, stuff from the environment like dirt or garbage that may have given some clue to her whereabouts.

So, yes, both of these acts by the As are suspicious and could hinder/delay the investigation into recovery or identification of Caylee's body. The hairbrush incident, where Cindy defiantly lied through omission, certainly makes their job more difficult. Saying that, well, Cindy did give them Caylee's hair is beside the point. At the very least, the As have shown themselves to be unco-operative liars and most thinking people would ask themselves why.

And while we're splitting hairs, you in turn ASSUME that the As did not know anything by the time of the stolen gas cans. People infer many things from behaviour, IMO, and inferring that the As' behaviour is kinda suspicious and that they may have known something/are hiding something I don't think is a gigantic leap in the dark. It may not be true in the end, but it is a fair inference.

My guess is that given their behaviour over these past months that the As might be accessories after the fact.
 
  • #176
Actually, if you read the pertinent documents, the hairbrush was acquired under court order, and it was misrepresented as Caylee's hairbrush. It is labelled Caylee's brush, not a shared one, or one belonging to another person. The As, in this case, hinder the identification of Caylee, while LE searches for her body.

Meanwhile, the washing of the pants is just as likely an attempt to get rid of evidence that might have aided in the search for Caylee's body. They may have had her DNA, stuff from the environment like dirt or garbage that may have given some clue to her whereabouts.

So, yes, both of these acts by the As are suspicious and could hinder/delay the investigation into recovery or identification of Caylee's body. The hairbrush incident, where Cindy defiantly lied through omission, certainly makes their job more difficult. Saying that, well, Cindy did give them Caylee's hair is beside the point. At the very least, the As have shown themselves to be unco-operative liars and most thinking people would ask themselves why.

And while we're splitting hairs, you in turn ASSUME that the As did not know anything by the time of the stolen gas cans. People infer many things from behaviour, IMO, and inferring that the As' behaviour is kinda suspicious and that they may have known something/are hiding something I don't think is a gigantic leap in the dark. It may not be true in the end, but it is a fair inference.

My guess is that given their behaviour over these past months that the As might be accessories after the fact.

Can you please tell me where, in the pertinent documents, it says that the hairbrush was obtained under court order? TIA

EDIT to add: The pants that Casey was wearing on the day Caylee disappeared are unlikely to be the same pants she wore on the day she disposed of the body. Therefore nothing found on the pants would help locate the body.
 
  • #177
Actually, if you read the pertinent documents, the hairbrush was acquired under court order, and it was misrepresented as Caylee's hairbrush. It is labelled Caylee's brush, not a shared one, or one belonging to another person. The As, in this case, hinder the identification of Caylee, while LE searches for her body.

Meanwhile, the washing of the pants is just as likely an attempt to get rid of evidence that might have aided in the search for Caylee's body. They may have had her DNA, stuff from the environment like dirt or garbage that may have given some clue to her whereabouts.

So, yes, both of these acts by the As are suspicious and could hinder/delay the investigation into recovery or identification of Caylee's body. The hairbrush incident, where Cindy defiantly lied through omission, certainly makes their job more difficult. Saying that, well, Cindy did give them Caylee's hair is beside the point. At the very least, the As have shown themselves to be unco-operative liars and most thinking people would ask themselves why.

And while we're splitting hairs, you in turn ASSUME that the As did not know anything by the time of the stolen gas cans. People infer many things from behaviour, IMO, and inferring that the As' behaviour is kinda suspicious and that they may have known something/are hiding something I don't think is a gigantic leap in the dark. It may not be true in the end, but it is a fair inference.

My guess is that given their behaviour over these past months that the As might be accessories after the fact.

I totally agree.
 
  • #178
Because this plan was hatched and it wasn't in the "script". I think it has always been about saving Casey since they knew that Caylee was indeed dead. Somehow whatever happened that day, the A fam does blame Casey for...so she will do anything they say to do if she knows they have the power to prove it.

Cindy said, "There is NO evidence!"

Translation: Don't admit anything Casey! Shut up and keep the lie up. Her looking at Casey at the bond hearing and saying that was a PEP TALK.
 
  • #179
Can you please tell me where, in the pertinent documents, it says that the hairbrush was obtained under court order? TIA

EDIT to add: The pants that Casey was wearing on the day Caylee disappeared were unlikely to be the same pants she wore on the day she disposed of the body. Therefore nothing found on the pants would help locate the body.

The search warrants specifically named some objects, one of which was her hairbrush. And just for your info the FBI was the ones she tried to ho doo and she may pay a huge price for that one.
 
  • #180
EDIT to add: The pants that Casey was wearing on the day Caylee disappeared are unlikely to be the same pants she wore on the day she disposed of the body. Therefore nothing found on the pants would help locate the body.
Says who?!?!
 

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