Found Deceased Germany - Liam Colgan, 29, Scottish tourist, Hamburg, 10 Feb 2018

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Just to give an impression of the Reeperbahn surroundings - lots of places where Liam could have spent time after leaving the Veermaster:

https://youtu.be/kQD-3pUilcg
 
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I suspect this wedding is going to be postponed, if not cancelled.
 
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Grüezi to Switzerland! <3

My understanding is that Liam vanished into thin air. Nobody saw him leaving the place. The Veermaster is a very crowded and noisy place, especially on weekends. It&#8217;s a little bit like &#8222;Oktoberfest&#8220; with a northern, maritime touch. If he went out for a cigarette, it&#8216;s likely nobody noticed it.

Germany mostly has non-smoking bars/restaurants, a few have separate rooms for smokers or are smokers (members) only. Police just started their official investigation, so I&#8216;m sure they will check out any available cctv:
https://www.presseportal.de/blaulicht/pm/6337/3866214

The hostel they stayed in is located at Spaldingstrasse, not really nearby.

Anything could have happened, he could have been ripped off by someone or he went out and didn&#8216;t find his way back. It was freezing cold that night and I just hope he didn&#8216;t walk towards the piers and ended up in the river. There are a lot of porters trying to encourage tourists to come to the strip club but they usually don&#8216;t kill them and just want them to spend money. ;-)

Let&#8216;s hope for the best!
If Liam&#8217;s hotel/hostel was in Spaldingstrasse that&#8217;s about 5km away...probably not a walk he would attempt. If he was really, really drunk and without a phone, the only thing I can see him doing is, firstly, searching on foot for his friends and then, secondly, trying to make it back to his accommodation. I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;d try public transport unless he was really familiar with Hamburg and without a phone, his only real option is to flag down a cab.
The search teams have already checked hospitals etc so our best case scenarios are really running out...
 
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Inverness Airport does not fly to Germany. You would need to go to Edinburgh probably. I assume they were all meeting at Edinburgh Airport including the person 'leaving Carnoustie'.
 
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I'm just trying to think what would cause a man to leave a bar without his friends, without telling them, especially a man who had organised the whole thing.
I wonder if he actually got a bit lost in the bar, drunk, got chatting with someone, as you do, turned round and the group were gone.
He had no phone and went out to find them, but something happened then.
I know the bar staff said he left before the group but it doesn't make sense. Maybe it was after.
If there wasn't mcuh time between the group leaving and Liam leaving, it seems that it would be hard to remember who left first.
They may very well have left without him and not realised.
It does not sound as if they stopped to search the bar before they left. What was their thought process? Did no-one think "is everyone here"? He could have been in the toilet, at the bar or chatting up a girl in a dark corner for all they knew.
 
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Not all 18 members of the group were in the same pub at the end of the night,a few went to other pubs,some went back to the hotel and some were in the last pub they were in,it&#8217;s possible Liam went to see if he could see others from the group in another pub or was simply leaving in order to go back to the hotel.It was like 17 of them left the pub together without Liam,the group had disbanded during the night
 
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It wasn&#8217;t like 17 of them left the pub together without Liam *
 
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I'm just trying to think what would cause a man to leave a bar without his friends, without telling them, especially a man who had organised the whole thing.
I wonder if he actually got a bit lost in the bar, drunk, got chatting with someone, as you do, turned round and the group were gone.
He had no phone and went out to find them, but something happened then.
I know the bar staff said he left before the group but it doesn't make sense. Maybe it was after.
If there wasn't mcuh time between the group leaving and Liam leaving, it seems that it would be hard to remember who left first.
They may very well have left without him and not realised.

It does not sound as if they stopped to search the bar before they left. What was their thought process? Did no-one think "is everyone here"? He could have been in the toilet, at the bar or chatting up a girl in a dark corner for all they knew.

bbm I saw the start of an article today where it said only five of his friends were still with him at the bar when he left. The article was behind a paywall, so I didn't bring it over here. Will go and see if I can find it again.

ETA: Found it.

https://www.abendblatt.de/hamburg/a...enen-Schotten-befuerchtet-das-Schlimmste.html

"Nach Mitternacht seien von der Gruppe nur noch fünf Leute übrig gewesen, berichtet Eamonn Colgan.
"

"After midnight were only five of the group left, said Eamonn Colgan."

Maybe the five remaining thought he had already left with the others?
 
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I'm just trying to think what would cause a man to leave a bar without his friends, without telling them, especially a man who had organised the whole thing.
I wonder if he actually got a bit lost in the bar, drunk, got chatting with someone, as you do, turned round and the group were gone.
He had no phone and went out to find them, but something happened then.
I know the bar staff said he left before the group but it doesn't make sense. Maybe it was after.
If there wasn't mcuh time between the group leaving and Liam leaving, it seems that it would be hard to remember who left first.
They may very well have left without him and not realised.
It does not sound as if they stopped to search the bar before they left. What was their thought process? Did no-one think "is everyone here"? He could have been in the toilet, at the bar or chatting up a girl in a dark corner for all they knew.

Its possible he arranged to meet someone, or did meet someone and gone off
 
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Not all 18 members of the group were in the same pub at the end of the night,a few went to other pubs,some went back to the hotel and some were in the last pub they were in,it’s possible Liam went to see if he could see others from the group in another pub or was simply leaving in order to go back to the hotel.It was like 17 of them left the pub together without Liam,the group had disbanded during the night

That makes sense. Add to that the alcohol and nobody was really thinking about where everybody else was and not missing him till morning.
 
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I'm just trying to think what would cause a man to leave a bar without his friends, without telling them, especially a man who had organised the whole thing.
I wonder if he actually got a bit lost in the bar, drunk, got chatting with someone, as you do, turned round and the group were gone.
He had no phone and went out to find them, but something happened then.
I know the bar staff said he left before the group but it doesn't make sense. Maybe it was after.
If there wasn't mcuh time between the group leaving and Liam leaving, it seems that it would be hard to remember who left first.
They may very well have left without him and not realised.
It does not sound as if they stopped to search the bar before they left. What was their thought process? Did no-one think "is everyone here"? He could have been in the toilet, at the bar or chatting up a girl in a dark corner for all they knew.

RBBM


Having been on a fair few stag do's myself I'd imagine by that point there were no thought processes happening at all! Too much alcohol and too many people involved.
 
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Hoping that this will turn out like another recent missing person case involving a fire fighter from Toronto who was on a skiing trip in NY with a large group of people.
We do not know how it happened, and neither does he, but after missing for approx a week, he turned up in California wearing all his ski clothing, boots and all!
It is believed at this time, that he may have suffered a head injury and somehow got a ride in a truck and slept all the way to California.

Again, hoping that Liam in some kind of fugue state, traveled out of Hamburg.
Wishful thinking, but stranger things have happened.
speculation, imo.
 
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Phew, they found a body in the river but it‘s NOT Liam.

They are still searching with dogs, water police, checking cctv. The whole town is plastered with posters.

His brother Eamonn who actually is a police man in Dundee according to this article meanwhile returned to Hamburg. He says Liam was seen on cctv footage close to the subway station at Reeperbahn. He is trying to get answers from police without interfering with their work.

Eamonn wants to stay optimistic. „Maybe the reason he hasn‘t contacted us is that he has a head wound and is confused. We have no reason to believe he doesn‘t want to return to us. Maybe someone did something to him. That he fell into the Elbe is another possibility“.

Eamon is glad being back in Hamburg. „At least someone is with Liam because he‘s somewhere here in Hamburg“.

German article:
https://www.abendblatt.de/hamburg/a...ns-einer-bei-Liam-denn-er-ist-in-Hamburg.html
 
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Hamburg stag do: 'Please come home' says missing man's brother
http://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-43072991
"When he wasn't waiting for us outside, there was no reason to panic. He'd organised the whole trip so he'd researched the city and knew better than any of us how to get home."

But when Eamonn woke the next morning, Liam wasn't there.

"We are getting more people coming forward. We don't know if it'll lead to anything but it makes me feel more positive.
"We just have to keep thinking we'll get that bit of information that we need to find him and get him home."
 
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Scot missing in Hamburg during stag do spotted on CCTV
It has now emerged Liam was spotted on CCTV walking towards Reeperbahn station, close to the last pub he was in.

Eamonn said his brother is seen on camera by himself walking through an arcade area.

He said: "There have been a couple more potential sightings that the police are currently working on and reviewing CCTV on those areas.

"There is a recording of Liam in the Reeperbahn area. It isn't outside the pub. It's further along the Reeperbahn towards the train and subway stations.

"After that there is no other image of Liam. I don't know the exact location. It's some sort of gaming area.

"He is seen walking alone, as we thought he would have been.

"We don't know much more at this time."

More at:
https://stv.tv/news/north/1408420-scot-missing-in-hamburg-during-stag-do-spotted-on-cctv/
 
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452 digital billboards across Hamburg now feature Liam‘s image.
IMG_0525.jpg
 

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