Germany Germany - Rebecca Reusch, 15, Berlin, 18 Feb 2019 *Arrest*

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  • #681
Okay, this may be a little of the wall but what if he’s sold her on to a sex trafficking group. If he's mixing with drug groups it's not too far a stretch of imagination that to pay of debts or whatever he has kidnapped and sold on his own sister in law.

Do we know the nature of his past crimes?
 
  • #682
Okay, this may be a little of the wall but what if he’s sold her on to a sex trafficking group. If he's mixing with drug groups it's not too far a stretch of imagination that to pay of debts or whatever he has kidnapped and sold on his own sister in law.

Do we know the nature of his past crimes?
Could be that he is released soon...

"Hotel chef Florian R. is silent in the interrogations, not a word about Rebecca. He has been in custody for a week now - but could soon be free again! Because: It seems the police have nothing incriminating against him in the hand."

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  • #683
If he does get out, I wish I could be a little spider on the wall when he goes back to the family, if he does.

Is it true that it takes around two hours from time of death until cadaver dogs can sense a dead body? Because that might change things, and the non-hit might not mean anything.
 
  • #684
Do we know the nature of his past crimes?

Yes. He once was in possession of some fireworks that are considered too dangerous in Germany.
 
  • #685
If he does get out, I wish I could be a little spider on the wall when he goes back to the family, if he does.

Is it true that it takes around two hours from time of death until cadaver dogs can sense a dead body? Because that might change things, and the non-hit might not mean anything.
Good question..I googled it:

"One of the questions surrounding human cadaver dogs is how soon after death they can recognise a corpse, and how long a "fresh" corpse must remain in one place for a dog to detect that it has been there. In a study published last year, the forensic pathologist Lars Oesterhelweg, then at the University of Bern in Switzerland, and colleagues tested the ability of three Hamburg State Police cadaver dogs to pick out – of a line-up of six new carpet squares – the one that had been exposed for no more than 10 minutes to a recently deceased person.

Several squares had been placed beneath a clothed corpse within three hours of death, when some organs and many cells of the human body are still functioning. Over the next month, the dogs did hundreds of trials in which they signalled the contaminated square with 98 per cent accuracy, falling to 94 per cent when the square had been in contact with the corpse for only two minutes. The research concluded that cadaver dogs were an "outstanding tool" for crime-scene investigation."
The CSI death dogs: Sniffing out the truth behind the crime-scene
 
  • #686
Monday, March 11th
12:04: Should the lawyer of Florian R. not apply immediately for a review of detention, the 27-year-old could stay up to six months in prison.

9.56 am: Will Rebecca's brother-in-law be released soon? The police do not seem to have anything incriminating in their hands. An arrest review will determine whether the accused person must remain in detention. Such a date has not yet been requested by his lawyer according to "Bild".

"The hearing must be carried out without delay," writes the law. Such a hearing must be carried out within two weeks of the application. Why the lawyer has not applied for a detention check is not clear.

Rebecca Reusch (15) vermisst: Mysteriöse Autofahrt des Schwagers auf A12 – das soll dahinterstecken
 
  • #687
Good question..I googled it:

"One of the questions surrounding human cadaver dogs is how soon after death they can recognise a corpse, and how long a "fresh" corpse must remain in one place for a dog to detect that it has been there. In a study published last year, the forensic pathologist Lars Oesterhelweg, then at the University of Bern in Switzerland, and colleagues tested the ability of three Hamburg State Police cadaver dogs to pick out – of a line-up of six new carpet squares – the one that had been exposed for no more than 10 minutes to a recently deceased person.

Several squares had been placed beneath a clothed corpse within three hours of death, when some organs and many cells of the human body are still functioning. Over the next month, the dogs did hundreds of trials in which they signalled the contaminated square with 98 per cent accuracy, falling to 94 per cent when the square had been in contact with the corpse for only two minutes. The research concluded that cadaver dogs were an "outstanding tool" for crime-scene investigation."
The CSI death dogs: Sniffing out the truth behind the crime-scene
What a great article!
I trust search dogs way more than I trust humans using scientific tech.. with that said though, in this article they state that the bodies used were dead less than 3 hours, so it’s still possible for the dogs to not hit in these scenarios:
1. She had only been dead minutes before he transferred her into the car
2. She was not completely dead when placed into the car
3. He used some sort of barrier that is not absorbant that he discarded

As I stated before, if there are wounds on the body, cadaverine is expelled much faster from those damaged cells. If there’s no wounds at all, it can take up to two hours for the body to expel the chemical.

To me, the dogs not hitting in the car is NOT proof that she wasn’t laid in the trunk.
 
  • #688
What did she leave at sisters house sorry I’ve forgotten was it toiletries, makeup , underwear in bathroom ?

From school (I know it was a bus she was ment to take) would she pass by sisters again in way home to go to her own home .... thinking about was she coming back there to pick all her stuff up
 
  • #689
What a great article!
I trust search dogs way more than I trust humans using scientific tech.. with that said though, in this article they state that the bodies used were dead less than 3 hours, so it’s still possible for the dogs to not hit in these scenarios:
1. She had only been dead minutes before he transferred her into the car
2. She was not completely dead when placed into the car
3. He used some sort of barrier that is not absorbant that he discarded

As I stated before, if there are wounds on the body, cadaverine is expelled much faster from those damaged cells. If there’s no wounds at all, it can take up to two hours for the body to expel the chemical.

To me, the dogs not hitting in the car is NOT proof that she wasn’t laid in the trunk.

I know we must have discussed the CCTV (or any surveillance cameras) in that neighborhood.

Was LE able to 'see' RR in any videos from that weekend, before and/or after the date of disappearance? Have they even mentioned this in their investigating?
 
  • #690
Why have they stopped searching if there’s a possibility he will be released soon? I’m really hoping they have something up their sleeve that they haven’t told anyone about yet... this poor family is just going to stay so confused for such a long time... what a twisted case
 
  • #691
I know we must have discussed the CCTV (or any surveillance cameras) in that neighborhood.

Was LE able to 'see' RR in any videos from that weekend, before and/or after the date of disappearance? Have they even mentioned this in their investigating?

AFAIK cctv of R from the neighbourhood or anywhere else from any date has never been mentioned by LE nor msm. Anybody else remembers any cctv?
 
  • #692
Talking about CCTV in Germany: if you are thinking of usage as in US or UK, then quickly forget this ;-)

There are kind of strict rules for CCTV, which are if used mostly placed on public places with some importance. Shops or bars etc may have some but there are obliged to follow certain rules for e.g. storage. Private houses have to respect the privacy of neighbours and person just passing etc. ( in the case of deceased Scotsman in Hamburg, we had more information about the regulations)

I think we did not talk CCTV as i assume there is none in the neighborhood and has not been reported as any available.
 
  • #693
Talking about CCTV in Germany: if you are thinking of usage as in US or UK, then quickly forget this ;-)

There are kind of strict rules for CCTV, which are if used mostly placed on public places with some importance. Shops or bars etc may have some but there are obliged to follow certain rules for e.g. storage. Private houses have to respect the privacy of neighbours and person just passing etc. ( in the case of deceased Scotsman in Hamburg, we had more information about the regulations)

I think we did not talk CCTV as i assume there is none in the neighborhood and has not been reported as any available.

Wow! I am really learning so many new things about Germany every day.
 
  • #694
Yes. He once was in possession of some fireworks that are considered too dangerous in Germany.

Well that is saying something, because when it comes to fireworks in Germany, near enough anything goes
 
  • #695
Germany is particularly sensitive to surveillance and government ownership of personal data because of its WW2 history.

"The system is subject to abuse because it could be theoretically fed with any kind of data record. For authoritarian states, it could lead to new kinds of control, in addition to existing internet censorship and other surveillance of public life."​

Big brother in Berlin: Face recognition technology gets tested | DW | 31.07.2017

"De Maiziere promised that the technology would only be used to combat serious crimes, but Demuth pointed out that identification software is dramatically on the rise where less serious crimes are concerned and where it is commercially useful. She said that people in Germany are increasingly fed up with being scanned and identified in public places."​

Facial recognition surveillance test extended at Berlin train station | DW | 15.12.2017
 
  • #696
Well that is saying something, because when it comes to fireworks in Germany, near enough anything goes

I was just reading about it and it seems that there are restrictions on when fireworks can be purchased, types of fireworks that can be sold and age of user. The suspect was arrested for having Polish fireworks, so it's likely that he had fireworks that are restricted in Germany, or he set them off during a restricted time.

"Be sure to know what is legal in the town you live in. On-post, individual fireworks of any kind are prohibited. Off-post, fireworks may only be fired from midnight Dec. 31 until Jan. 1. If you don’t want to ruin your neighborhood relationships, it is best to abide by these rules.

According to German law, shops are only allowed to sell fireworks, rockets, wheels or bangers in the time period from Dec. 28 to 31. Except for children’s firecrackers, which are labelled “Klasse I” and may be used all through the year, regular fireworks, “Klasse II” fireworks, can only be purchased by adults. Lighting off fireworks at any other time of year requires special permission from the city you live in."​

New Year's fireworks safety, rules in Germany - StuttgartCitizen.com
 
  • #697
But wouldn’t that be better than sitting in custody for murder?
it depends on WHO you are dealing FOR, he could be very scared because the next question it where do you get them?
 
  • #698
it depends on WHO you are dealing FOR, he could be very scared because the next question it where do you get them?

If he is involved with organized crime, that could also be a factor in the disappearance of Rebecca, so the sooner he comes clean the better it is for the investigation. There is no excuse for keeping silent to protect himself or family from dangerous drug dealers after a family member has vanished.
 
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Wow!

If found...

That camera could be a treasure trove of information!

Or not....<<sigh>>

JMO...

It may be that she routinely had the camera in her backpack and that it was not used at any time during her disappearance. On the other hand, it is something that would stand out in most environments (water, a field, etc.) so hopefully people are keeping their eyes open for Rebecca's pink things.
 
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