Germany - Truck crashes into Christmas market in Berlin, 9 dead, 19 Dec 2016

[CARIIS]

Warning post came out in a circular manner - trying to throw out info, while stating while I am wondering if these issues are accurate - which is bothersome.

Re: report that the media found out about a raid and camped out in front of it for a long time (possibly giving him time to split seems accurate)

Here is a pic

Police and journalists are waiting for a planned raid for hours on end

This did need to be translated:


From the afternoon, eight television cameras, many photographic cameras and the glances of more than 30 journalists were directed at the asylum shelter. Just: Nothing happened for hours

got to these folks (rp online) from The Sun


http://www.rp-online.de/politik/deutschland/anis-amri-berliner-justiz-observierte-verdaechtigen-von-maerz-bis-september-aid-1.6477114

I do not know if The Sun is considered accurate (The Daily Mail gets a bad rap but it has been on target for all kinds of stories IMO)



Police planned to raid refugee accommodation in Emmerich – home to around 50 asylum seekers – but had to wait hours due to a typing blunder on warrant papers, according to German news site RPonline.

A pic of the reporters standing there is rather credible.

I have never seen in attacks like these, (its like the scanner thread here) can't report info that might mess with authorities surprising and catching whoever in any crime.

This is not like one media outlet had a "scoop" - 30 outlets showing up - sounds like a big leak to me.

Again hits me as pretty big boo boo!.

This angle (journalists being there for hours was also reported and linked earlier here)

The sun also reported this:

four years for burning down migrant centre'

but the deal is SKY news report the migrant center not the school either.

The migrant center angle is important tho, IMO - because it makes more sense, in light of all we know , no?

So, WHEW - does make me wonder if all the raids reported widely earlier is wrong as well :

Earlier reports claimed police commandos had raided two apartments in Berlin, but the city’s police denied this on Twitter, dismissing it as “rumours”.

IMO, the reported raids, felt like oh good they are on to him.

But if that is also incorrect then it might be back to the reality that they really have not a clue what they are doing. Aint good.

Looking at the entire thing since Monday they really have messed up on a lot of stuff since this mess started.

As error after error has emerged it was surprising to me. Its not like Germany is not a Westernized nation, which I assumed was somewhat on there game.

With all there mess ups tho some of these other "issues" seem at least possible.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24531...-hunt-underway-as-police-search-dutch-border/


http://www.rp-online.de/politik/deutschland/anis-amri-berliner-justiz-observierte-verdaechtigen-von-maerz-bis-september-aid-1.6477114

A finally WHEW seems warranted!!

This is more concerning cause (like New York bombings) cause the perp is still out there. He truly has no reason not to be lethal again, there is a huge reward, it seems he will go into suicide "mode" if he gets close to being captured, which IMO escalates risk factors.

His MO is, IMO, easily repeated - need a gun to kill a driver , and take another 18 wheeler and.............................. There are going to be a lot of gatherings all over the place cause of the holiday week.

All in all not a good recipe, and the chefs in the kitchen don't seem all that , "seasoned" if you will.

Maybe they should ask Britain or France or us for some help??

moo

Al least in the two Paris attacks all the bad people were dead.

The Kosher deli deal at least he was dead too.

Elliot was dead.

San Bern were dead.

Its better that way!!

 

[zencompass]

Thank you CARIIS for all of this information!

 

[CARIIS]

Thank you CARIIS for all of this information!

I am releived that , apparently it was somewhat followable - cause I got really messed up with knowing if The Sun is a news organization!!

 

[CARIIS]

I dont know the old LE adage that the more time that passes the less likely capture is.

He had a very long time where they probably were not even looking for much - they had him or so they thought.

The notion that he might just remain out there is def a bummer - he is also a street ****

just on that level.................

 

[Jax49]

[h=3]The Latest: Brother urges Berlin attack suspect to surrender[/h]
http://www.crossroadstoday.com/stor...ther-urges-berlin-attack-suspect-to-surrender

A brother of the fugitive Tunisian suspected in Berlin's deadly Christmas market attack is urging Anis Amri to turn himself in to police.
Amri's family members, speaking from his hometown of Oueslatia in central Tunisia, were shaken to learn he's the prime suspect in Monday's truck attack, which killed 12.

 

[ZaZara]

BREAKING: FINGERPRINTS OF ANIS A. FOUND ON DRIVER'S DOOR OF TRUCK


Süddeutsche Zeitung
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/...gerabdruecke-an-fahrertuer-des-lkws-1.3304352

Fingerprints of Amri found on truck door.
The evidence that Anis Amri is the perpetrator is confirming itself. According to information from Süddeutscher Zeitung, NDR and WDR, fingerprints of Amri were found on the driver's door of the truck, that was driven into a Christmas market on Monday evening. Twelve people died, dozens have been injured seriously.
Amri is considered as an urgent suspect and is currently on the run. The police are looking for him.


BBM


Surprised, anyone? I'm not.

 

[GreyClay]

Wonder if this is a bit similar to the end of the Boston Marathon case, and the perp is so badly wounded he is just lying (dying?) somewhere, just waiting to be captured / killed?

He has had a huge amount of time to attack a second target - if he was even remotely able to stand up and stumble into a train station etc... with the pistol he took from the scene of the first attack.

If this was meant to be a suicide mission he could have found any number of locations to get himself shot by the police by now.

Pure speculation on my behalf.

 

[ZaZara]

ANIS AMRI OFFERED TO BE A SUICIDE BOMBER MONTHS AGO

Bild.de
http://www.bild.de/home/2016/newsti...amri-live-artikel-49442286.bild.html#49445098

The alleged assassin from the Christmas market at Breitscheidplatz, according to information received by BILD, offered himself months ago as a suicide bomber. In an online chat, Anis Amri had made corresponding comments.

Magazine "Spiegel" is also reporting about Anis Amri's efforts to offer himself for an assassination and refers to the evaluation of the telephone monitoring of the so-called "hate preachers".
However, the statements of Amris had been so cryptic that they had not allowed then for a detention. According to the report, the Tunisian also inquired about how to procure weapons.
Meanwhile, a video from the net, which dates from the summer of this year, has also surfaced. In the video Anis Amri is seen in Berlin.


BBM

 

[CARIIS]

Video interview with Brothers uncle and neighbor

https://www.theguardian.com/world/v...pect-anis-amris-family-speak-out-video-report

[h=2]German police say fingerprints of Tunisian suspect in Berlin attack found on truck door - @AlArabiya_Eng
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[CARIIS]

Computer issues it get stuck - so I posting as "blurbs before it freezes!

Associated Press that officials from two specialized brigades in Tunis and Kairouan interrogated family members of the suspect Wednesday at their home

 

[CARIIS]

ANIS AMRI OFFERED TO BE A SUICIDE BOMBER MONTHS AGO

Bild.de
http://www.bild.de/home/2016/newsti...amri-live-artikel-49442286.bild.html#49445098

The alleged assassin from the Christmas market at Breitscheidplatz, according to information received by BILD, offered himself months ago as a suicide bomber. In an online chat, Anis Amri had made corresponding comments.

Magazine "Spiegel" is also reporting about Anis Amri's efforts to offer himself for an assassination and refers to the evaluation of the telephone monitoring of the so-called "hate preachers".
However, the statements of Amris had been so cryptic that they had not allowed then for a detention.According to the report, the Tunisian also inquired about how to procure weapons.
Meanwhile, a video from the net, which dates from the summer of this year, has also surfaced. In the video Anis Amri is seen in Berlin.


BBM

Some of this is so bizarre I am wondering if the "translations" are making the word choices "off" .

This makes no sense?? If I am understanding this statement says his threats were so clear and concise we could not take him in for questioning?

" I am going to bomb 4th st and 8th tomm at 8:15" and LE says nope can not question him.

Its gotta be the translation gosh!

 

[CARIIS]

BREAKING: German police rushed to Berlin district after 'suspicious package' found
Express.co.uk · 21 mins ago

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Wonder if this is a bit similar to the end of the Boston Marathon case, and the perp is so badly wounded he is just lying (dying?) somewhere, just waiting to be captured / killed?

He has had a huge amount of time to attack a second target - if he was even remotely able to stand up and stumble into a train station etc... with the pistol he took from the scene of the first attack.

If this was meant to be a suicide mission he could have found any number of locations to get himself shot by the police by now.

Pure speculation on my behalf.

Good points, and the hole in the window shield drivers side looks like head impact imo

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Makes sense all he would have to say is he was a victim in attack.

Unless he wants a bigger finale - like a suicide vest in a crowded place.

For some reason I think he might be waiting for the 25th?

tid bits

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[FONT=&amp]may have been radicalized in prison in Italy, [/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]100,000 euros ($105,000)

[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Italian woman has been confirmed as among the dead in the Berlin market attack.--[/FONT][FONT=&amp]DNA testing to help identification processes for the woman,

[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Israeli woman has been identified as one of the victims of the Berlin Christmas market attack. [/FONT][FONT=&amp]Her husband was seriously wounded in the attack but is now stable.

[/FONT][FONT=&amp] police in Denmark to search a Sweden-bound ferry in the port of Grenaa after receiving tips that someone resembling suspect Anis Amri had been seen there

[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Amri was suspected of involvement in Monday's terrorist outrage but was not necessarily the man who drove the hijacked lorry into a crowded Christmas market in the German capital.
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identity papers were issued in Kleve, North Rhine-Westphalia,

[/FONT][FONT=&amp]threat level in the UK remains at severe - meaning an attack is seen as "highly likely".[/FONT][FONT=&amp]

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[/FONT][FONT=&amp]reopened to the public three days after a deadly truck attack

[/FONT]family lives in poverty and his parents are divorced

40-tonne lorry

Market reopened[FONT=&amp]without party music or bright lighting.

[/FONT][FONT=&amp] left Tunisia years ago for Europe but had been in regular contact with his brothers via Facebook and phone.[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Brother Abdelkader Amri told The Associated Press, "I ask him to turn himself into the police. If it is proved that he is involved, we dissociate ourselves from it."[/FONT]



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http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...ice-hunt-Tunisian-man-over-berlin-attack.html

http://www.crossroadstoday.com/stor...ther-urges-berlin-attack-suspect-to-surrender

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...tack-tunisian-suspect-anis-amri-investigated/PUBLISHED: 13:46, Thu, Dec 22, 2016 | UPDATED: 13:59, Thu, Dec 22, 2016

 

[zencompass]

I hope and pray that is not the case that this monster will strike again.

I am glad to hear that his brother is telling him to turn himself in.

I hope and pray they find the perpetrator of this horrendous crime soon.

Just can't shake hope loose. I will always have hope.

 

[ZaZara]

TRACES OF ANIS AMRI ON STEERING WHEEL OF DEATH TRUCK


Bild.de
http://www.bild.de/home/2016/newsti...amri-live-artikel-49442286.bild.html#49449318

After reports about fingerprints of Anis Amri on the death truck, the "Berliner Zeitung" now writes that there are also corresponding marks on the steering wheel. The responsible federal prosecutor's office was not available for a comment for the time being.

BBM

 

[CARIIS]

found a different version! To be suicide bomber on the call:

The offer was picked up in telephone surveillance of extremist preachers who were under investigation. Despite the alarming nature of the offer it was not considered grounds for arrest.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/22/berlin-terror-attack-tunisian-suspect-anis-amri-investigated/

 

[CARIIS]

[FONT=&quot]Meanwhile comments made by Thomas de Maiziere, the German interior minister

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]If we get to the end of the Chistmas markets without an attack, I'll make three crosses," Mr de Maiziere is reported to have said at a ministry meeting one week before the attack.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The alleged comment may have been no more than general concern: [/FONT]

 

[Elley Mae]

https://www.google.com/maps/place/O...:0xe0780e9346c57246!8m2!3d35.85083!4d9.586326


this is where he grew up

 

[CARIIS]

Where he was for 4 years google images

 

[Elley Mae]

Investigators reportedly first found the identity document that put them on the trail of the Tunisian suspect on Tuesday afternoon following a subsequent search of the truck that took place hours after the attack. Forensics experts also secured traces of DNA in the cab of the truck and had to wait until search dogs, so-called man trailers, could be brought to the vehicle to pick up the suspect's scent. In order to prevent them from being distracted by other scents, like those of investigators, they waited until that time before searching the vehicle again.

http://www.spiegel.de/international...y-offered-to-be-suicide-bomber-a-1127189.html

Research into BAMF's database showed that he had been registered in Germany using multiple identities and dates of birth. Within a matter of only weeks, officials rejected Amri's asylum application, saying it was "obviously unfounded." However, they were unable to deport him because he lacked the necessary identification papers.

 

[rob]

[FONT="]Meanwhile comments made by Thomas de Maiziere, the German interior minister

[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT="]If we get to the end of the Chistmas markets without an attack, I'll make three crosses," Mr de Maiziere is reported to have said at a ministry meeting one week before the attack.[/FONT]
[FONT="]The alleged comment may have been no more than general concern: [/FONT]

Did he get charged with a crime for saying that?