Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #6

[Sundog]

Just wondering, would they take DNA samples from Rex's family to rule them out of any DNA found in the truck recovered from the brother in SC, or would they only compare anything found to "known victims"?

They already have RH's wife's DNA and RH's DNA, so I assume that through genetic genealogy that they can identify the children's DNA.
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They would need permission from RH's step-son to get his DNA, as he is not a suspect in the crime.

edited "son" to "step son"

 

[Soulmagent]

They already have RH's wife's DNA and RH's DNA, so I assume that through genetic genealogy that they can identify the children's DNA.
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They would need permission from the son to get his DNA, as he is not a suspect in the crime.

So when you say son you mean step son correct ? or maybe you mean something different?
And I did see this one something different article from the uk. I had to take a break from Ws.So I could not post the link

 

[iamshadow21]

They already have RH's wife's DNA and RH's DNA, so I assume that through genetic genealogy that they can identify the children's DNA.
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They would need permission from the son to get his DNA, as he is not a suspect in the crime.

Depending on the level of the stepson's disability, they may need his mother's permission to get his DNA. But even if they didn't have his, they have his mother's, so it would be pretty easy to determine whether he was the contributor to a profile.

MOO

 

[Sundog]

So when you say son you mean step son correct ? or maybe you mean something different?

Yes, I meant step-son.
I'll edit my post to say "step-son."

 

[citizen_sleuth]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1684572623999733763

There are 4 cases in Las Vegas which I think match RH's MO and victim profile:

Tammie Michelle Mooney

Missing From: Las Vegas, NV
Date of Last Contact: December 16, 2003
Missing Age: 18
Height: 5'6 - 5'7
Weight: 125 - 145 pounds
Circumstances: Mooney was last seen at her residence in the vicinity of the 10300 block of Horseback Ridge Avenue in Las Vegas, Nevada on December 16, 2003. She got into an argument with her female roommate, then left with her boyfriend.

Mooney spoke to her mother on the phone and said she was going to find somewhere else to live. She has never been heard from again. Her family says it's very uncharacteristic of her not to contact them. She was planning to go visit them for Christmas, but never arrived. Her disappearance remains unsolved.

Some agencies state that Mooney disappeared on December 19, 2003.

Homicide of Vanessa Eileen Zambrano

On March 4, 2006 at approximately 1645 hours, the body of Vanessa Eileen Zambrano was found in the marsh area at Lake Mead, near the Government Wash boat launch ramp. The investigation revealed that Zambrano's death was a homicide.

Homicide of Victoria Camara

On August 11, 2003 at approximately 0718 hours, Steven Webb, a gravel truck driver discovered the body of a Hispanic female in the desert area just south of the haul road located approximately 1200 feet west of US 95, mile marker 52.

On August 22, 2003, Bolder City Police Detectives and LVMPD Detectives identified the body of the Hispanic female as Victoria Camara. The Clark County Coroner's Office confirmed the identity. It's believed Camara was murdered in the Las Vegas area therefore LVMPD homicide took over the investigation.

Homicide of Wanine Moreira Rodriguez

On September 26, 2001 a man walking his dogs in the desert area of Hualapai and Sunset came across a shallow grave containing a human body. The LVMPD responded to the scene and discovered the remains of Wanine Moreira Rodriguez, a 34-year-old Brazilian female. Unknown person or persons had transported the victim to the desert location.

Due to the advanced decomposed status of the body, the Medical Examiner was unable to determine the cause or manner of death.

 

[Sillybilly]

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Please stop with the derogatory name calling, name variations .. all of which are violations of Websleuths TOS.

Not only do Mods have to remove the initial violation, but then have to go through all subsequent pages and posts to find and remove the entire discussion.

 

[Soulmagent]

Yes, I meant step-son.
I'll edit my post to say "step-son."

Okay ,but I did kinda point it out on purpose. So I am happy we had this talk. You did mean his step son.
Not his Son.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Family of Gilgo Beach serial killer suspect Rex Heuermann return home

Asa Ellerup and her two children, Victoria, 26, and Christopher, 32, looked solemn as they arrived back at the torn-up property at 10.30am Thursday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The tearful family of suspected Gilgo serial killer Rex Heuermann has returned home to Long Island nearly two weeks after he was first arrested.

Asa Ellerup and her two children, Victoria, 26, and Christopher, 32, looked solemn as they arrived back at the torn-up property at 10.30am on Thursday, with their family dog.

 

[bestill]

RH lost control of his life a long time ago, as shown the conditions of his house from the outside and what has been said about the inside. At first glance he seemed like a organized killer because he took the time to put them in burlap and place them together on the beach or in the dense brush. I believe it was a shining achievement for him that he could look at from across the bay. Just a really twisted human being.

Like the cobbler with no shoes or the builder with his home falling in around him. His home is in pretty deplorable condition.

 

[Inthedetails]

Like the cobbler with no shoes or the builder with his home falling in around him. His home is in pretty deplorable condition.

I have a hunch he was disorganized and sloppy in life....except for a few detaily-type things. And those details were important to him and made him feel superior. Like knowing building codes from a century ago (boring), getting burner phones for each victim (pinpoints him), murdering when wife was out of town (proves his opportunity).

I suspect he likes contrast and deception....but those were also his downfall.

jmo

 

[Medic4881]

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I have no idea what it could mean to have legs bound in a ball. Like, criss-cross-applesauce? What animals get their legs balled up? I presume it is not waterfowl.

I have a feeling I don't want to Google this...I'm a little squeamish.

MOO

I found something but I’m not sure u wanna see.

 

[Ruminations]

There are 4 cases in Las Vegas which I think match RH's MO and victim profile:

Tammie Michelle Mooney
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Missing From: Las Vegas, NV
Date of Last Contact: December 16, 2003
Missing Age: 18
Height: 5'6 - 5'7
Weight: 125 - 145 pounds
Circumstances: Mooney was last seen at her residence in the vicinity of the 10300 block of Horseback Ridge Avenue in Las Vegas, Nevada on December 16, 2003. She got into an argument with her female roommate, then left with her boyfriend.

Mooney spoke to her mother on the phone and said she was going to find somewhere else to live. She has never been heard from again. Her family says it's very uncharacteristic of her not to contact them. She was planning to go visit them for Christmas, but never arrived. Her disappearance remains unsolved.

Some agencies state that Mooney disappeared on December 19, 2003.

Homicide of Vanessa Eileen Zambrano
View attachment 437353
On March 4, 2006 at approximately 1645 hours, the body of Vanessa Eileen Zambrano was found in the marsh area at Lake Mead, near the Government Wash boat launch ramp. The investigation revealed that Zambrano's death was a homicide.

Homicide of Victoria Camara
View attachment 437354
On August 11, 2003 at approximately 0718 hours, Steven Webb, a gravel truck driver discovered the body of a Hispanic female in the desert area just south of the haul road located approximately 1200 feet west of US 95, mile marker 52.

On August 22, 2003, Bolder City Police Detectives and LVMPD Detectives identified the body of the Hispanic female as Victoria Camara. The Clark County Coroner's Office confirmed the identity. It's believed Camara was murdered in the Las Vegas area therefore LVMPD homicide took over the investigation.

Homicide of Wanine Moreira Rodriguez
View attachment 437357
On September 26, 2001 a man walking his dogs in the desert area of Hualapai and Sunset came across a shallow grave containing a human body. The LVMPD responded to the scene and discovered the remains of Wanine Moreira Rodriguez, a 34-year-old Brazilian female. Unknown person or persons had transported the victim to the desert location.

Due to the advanced decomposed status of the body, the Medical Examiner was unable to determine the cause or manner of death.

Wow. I looked up Vanessa zambrano, found deceased in march 2006 in a marsh in NV.

There is a whole lot of nothing.

I don't know if she was missing for a significant amount of time, of if she was found recently deceased. But from my preliminary research, she was found in a condition that allowed officials to declare her death a homicide, identified, and her murder remains unsolved with very little fanfare.





MOO

 

[x_files]

Depending on the level of the stepson's disability, they may need his mother's permission to get his DNA. But even if they didn't have his, they have his mother's, so it would be pretty easy to determine whether he was the contributor to a profile.

MOO

Couldn't they get a warrant to obtain it?

 

[bestill]

Do you all think he just stopped or moved to other areas? I am wondering if he didn't venture away from LI because of his comfort level. He may be one that doesn't do well with change, hence buying his family home, keeping the car for decades, same job for decades, etc...

 

[Friday13]

Family of Gilgo Beach serial killer suspect Rex Heuermann return home

Asa Ellerup and her two children, Victoria, 26, and Christopher, 32, looked solemn as they arrived back at the torn-up property at 10.30am Thursday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The tearful family of suspected Gilgo serial killer Rex Heuermann has returned home to Long Island nearly two weeks after he was first arrested.

Asa Ellerup and her two children, Victoria, 26, and Christopher, 32, looked solemn as they arrived back at the torn-up property at 10.30am on Thursday, with their family dog.

I cannot even begin to fathom the emotions they are going through….it had to be so bittersweet for them to go back to that home.

I did not linger on the photos of them…it feels like such an invasion of their privacy and I wish the media would leave them alone. With all the police down there to ensure privacy, it amazes me that they still get such clear, close up shots. I am absolutely heartbroken for Asa and the children. It’s so unfair to them.

 

[Soulmagent]

Family of Gilgo Beach serial killer suspect Rex Heuermann return home

Asa Ellerup and her two children, Victoria, 26, and Christopher, 32, looked solemn as they arrived back at the torn-up property at 10.30am Thursday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The tearful family of suspected Gilgo serial killer Rex Heuermann has returned home to Long Island nearly two weeks after he was first arrested.

Asa Ellerup and her two children, Victoria, 26, and Christopher, 32, looked solemn as they arrived back at the torn-up property at 10.30am on Thursday, with their family dog.

what kinda dog? Just so many dogs mentioned and A cat and its food and stratch post .
Jessica left D.C with a dog named after her pimp/ or the pimp took the name of the dog? Its real cool and cute to skip over things no one knows where to put,but for focus... remys angel's tat was sliced up with a razors edge. That is a fact and a folklore all in one.

 

[Momoffourboys]

I cannot even begin to fathom the emotions they are going through….it had to be so bittersweet for them to go back to that home.

I did not linger on the photos of them…it feels like such an invasion of their privacy and I wish the media would leave them alone. With all the police down there to ensure privacy, it amazes me that they still get such clear, close up shots. I am absolutely heartbroken for Asa and the children. It’s so unfair to them.

Agreed. I feel very sorry for them. The daughter…knowing what her father is accused of doing to women her age. All of them. Must be so confusing and devastating.

I am surprised with the photos also. Maybe a nosey neighbor selling them.

 

[Momoffourboys]

what kinda dog? Just so many dogs mentioned and A cat and its food and stratch post .
Jessica left D.C with a dog named after her pimp/ or the pimp took the name of the dog? Its real cool and cute to skip over things no one knows where to put,but for focus... remys angel's tat was sliced up with a razors edge. That is a fact and a folklore all in one.

In one of the photos looks like a medium sized black dog. Short haired.

 

[investigatefred]

I hate this for you but ,you gotta . In it he talks of a hammer and his dad and well that interveiw is enlighting in a way that kinda makes the doll case more import . Tool marks . This line of investigation shows a lot of clues. He is a builder ,he has an eye for detail , he has a tool he respects a lot for its practical beauty and purpose. It is important. Sorry, that you gotta watch the whole thing.Ya do though.
I would love the behavior panel to go over this video . Not that I think they are the end all to the end y'all but they do teach a person some things.

I'd counter that with, you only have to expose yourself to what you know you can handle taking up residence in your brain. For example, if it's going to give you nightmares, it's not worth it.

I have not listened either, and I don't think it's hampering me engaging with this case. Everything of interest from it has been discussed here.

MOO

There wasn't anything I'd consider "grisly" in the video. The hammer brings my thoughts to the Asian Doe, who was killed by blunt force trauma to the head, not asphyxiation like the others. Overall as an interview for anything else, it was rather boring, but considering the subject we know now as a serial killer being interviewed, I thought it was interesting.

 

[bestill]

I cannot even begin to fathom the emotions they are going through….it had to be so bittersweet for them to go back to that home.

I did not linger on the photos of them…it feels like such an invasion of their privacy and I wish the media would leave them alone. With all the police down there to ensure privacy, it amazes me that they still get such clear, close up shots. I am absolutely heartbroken for Asa and the children. It’s so unfair to them.

I often consider the devastation for both sides of a crime, the victims family and the perps family. Both are unfathomable. Initially the victims family is destroyed and eventually, in many cases, the perps is. I hope that his family has a network that will support them, they have some very dark days ahead.