Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #7

[AgeofAquaruis]

Have just come across the unsolved case of Tina Foglia, who went missing in NY, Suffolk County in 1982 connected with a LI nightclub outing. Petite, C.O.D asphyxiation, precision in the dismemberment (sorry) of her body, remains found by the roadside on the route to Gilgo Beach. Prior to her death, Tina had allegedly met up with a 'doctor' a few times, according to friends and family.

Post in thread 'NY - Tina Foglia, 19, West Islip, 1 Feb 1982'

NY - NY - Tina Foglia, 19, West Islip, 1 Feb 1982

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/crime/police-ask-for-help-in-cold-case-murder-of-brentwood-woman-1.13750287 Police ask for help in cold-case murder of Brentwood woman Updated June 20, 2017...

www.websleuths.com

Has this ever been discussed in relation to RH/LISK? Sorry if this is a duplicate post.

More info here:

Murdered: Tina Foglia | West Islip, NY | Uncovered

A music-loving teen who vanished after hanging out at a rock venue

uncovered.com

Doctor that's interesting.

 

[Kikalina]

Something about this image of Karen gives me Shannan Gilbert vibes. Of course, JMO

Agree. She reminds me a lot of SG as does, Judith Ramona Veloz, who the Gilgo task force just added to NAMUS

 

[iamshadow21]

Karen was born 11/4/61 and was 34 years old at the time of her disappearance. She has brown hair and brown eyes?, 5"? And 110 lbs?.



Her father last heard from her on his birthday on Valentine's Day 1996 when she was living on West 45th Street in NYC. Karen and her family are originally from Glen Head, NY. She went to St. Mary's Elementary School in Roslyn and graduated from North Shore High School in Glen Head in 1979.



At some point after high school, she is living in Fort Launderdale, FL. In September/October 1983, she is arrested in New Orleans, LA on drug charges. It would appear she may have spent a year in prison for this offense. In November 1983, she is also indicted by a federal grand jury of selling diet pills in CT with 5 other individuals. In June 1987, she also has federal charges that are undisclosed and were dismissed in July 1991. In 1989-1992 (and perhaps longer), she was living on Ocean Avenue in Brooklyn.



She has a son, who was 8 years at the time of her death. Sometime in late 1989 - early 1990, both her & her son (who was a toddler at the time) were involved in a car accident, which may have been the reason for the surgical scars on her legs.



In July 2017, her father had her officially declared deceased. In that legal filing, the father states that he spoke to multiple law enforcement agencies to try to report her missing, hired a private Investigator to determine her whereabouts and spoke to several acquaintances of hers.

So much for 'never reported missing'. That phrase makes me so angry, because as someone who follows Does, that so often is part of the police statement when they're identified, and then it comes out that the families did everything they could and the police did nothing, often wouldn't even take their loved one's information. Of all cases, of all police, you'd think the Gilgo Task Force would do their best to avoid making that horrendous blunder.

MOO

 

[Just K]

Investigators with the Gilgo Beach Homicide Investigation Task Force added the profile of Judith Ramona Veloz, a Bronx teen who vanished from Manhattan in 1993, to a national missing persons database last October.

Gilgo investigators upload missing teen’s profile into national database

Update: A spokesperson for the NYS Police said the inquiry was not associated with the Gilgo Beach investigation. NEW YORK (PIX11) – Investigators with the Gilgo Beach Homicide Investigation Task F…

pix11.com

RH would’ve been 29 or 30, then. This was in the years between his first and second marriage and while he was working the internship in Freeport, NY. It is the year before he started his business and bought his mother’s home.

 

[SonsOfCain]

Another photo of Karen
View attachment 439003

Hmmm…maybe it’s just me, but does anyone else see a slight resemblance to the other victims? I don’t mean in the sense that she is a relative/family member to one of the other victims. But to me she seems to look like the other women in very subtle ways.

 

[Just K]

Agree. She reminds me a lot of SG as does, Judith Ramona Veloz, who the Gilgo task force just added to NAMUS View attachment 439008

And Mellisa B

 

[Kikalina]

So much for 'never reported missing'. That phrase makes me so angry, because as someone who follows Does, that so often is part of the police statement when they're identified, and then it comes out that the families did everything they could and the police did nothing, often wouldn't even take their loved one's information. Of all cases, of all police, you'd think the Gilgo Task Force would do their best to avoid making that horrendous blunder.

MOO

I guess saying “at the time LE didn’t give a crap about sex workers” would have made them look bad

 

[SonsOfCain]

So much for 'never reported missing'. That phrase makes me so angry, because as someone who follows Does, that so often is part of the police statement when they're identified, and then it comes out that the families did everything they could and the police did nothing, often wouldn't even take their loved one's information. Of all cases, of all police, you'd think the Gilgo Task Force would do their best to avoid making that horrendous blunder.

MOO

100% agree with you. It is so awful when this happens. It’s such a slap in the face to not only the victim, but the victim’s family as well.

 

[Kikalina]

Hmmm…maybe it’s just me, but does anyone else see a slight resemblance to the other victims? I don’t mean in the sense that she is a relative/family member to one of the other victims. But to me she seems to look like the other women in very subtle ways.

The eyes. They have the same eyes

 

[iamshadow21]

Hmmm…maybe it’s just me, but does anyone else see a slight resemblance to the other victims? I don’t mean in the sense that she is a relative/family member to one of the other victims. But to me she seems to look like the other women in very subtle ways.

She looks most like Amber to me, perhaps because of her dark hair and long nose.

MOO

 

[SonsOfCain]

The eyes. They have the same eyes

YESSS!!! That was the FIRST thing I noticed as well!!!

 

[Luzie!]

I think its really interesting that Karen lived close to RHs office. Its just a 15 minute walk or even shorter car ride to her place from his work place. Obviously this are all just assumptions, but if we think he started earlier and not mid/end 40ies , this could be totally connected, even if we probably never will find the proof for it.
Also for what i understand he was divorced in 1995 from his first wife and married his second wife in April 1996, so there is the possibility that he was living alone at that time in his childhood home ?

 

[iamshadow21]

I think its really interesting that Karen lived close to RHs office. Its just a 15 minute walk or even shorter car ride to her place from his work place. Obviously this are all just assumptions, but if we think he started earlier and not mid/end 40ies , this could be totally connected, even if we probably never will find the proof for it.
Also for what i understand he was divorced in 1995 from his first wife and married his second wife in April 1996, so there is the possibility that he was living alone at that time in his childhood home ?

Karen disappeared two months before he married. You're right. If they didn't live together before tying the knot, he would have had the place to himself.

MOO

 

[passionflower]

Justice for these ladies

 

[DS2021]

Investigators with the Gilgo Beach Homicide Investigation Task Force added the profile of Judith Ramona Veloz, a Bronx teen who vanished from Manhattan in 1993, to a national missing persons databaselast October.

Do we know how theyve determined that, because her NamUs doesnt say anything about Gilgo

 

[iamshadow21]

I guess saying “at the time LE didn’t give a crap about sex workers” would have made them look bad

As opposed to all the rest of the scandal to do with SCPD? They weren't taking questions anyway, they just could have left that sentence out.

Because, so often when we're talking vulnerable victims, never reported missing so often seems code for not our fault, we couldn't have done anything, it's on the people in their life to let us know. They have all the power, and it doesn't matter how much the family protests that they did try to report it after that point, because they can't call a national reach press conference, and even if they could, they can't unring the bell of everyone hearing and writing articles about how they never bothered to report it.

MOO

 

[Podstan]

The idea of multiple SKs working in this same area at the same time, targeting the same type of victims doesn’t seem totally far fetched to me. I grew up in a big deer hunting state and it’s very common for multiple hunters to be clued into a good spot. I tend to think that, among other things, all the LE issues and corruption made Long Island a good spot. I listened to ”The Set“ podcast and it referenced SCPD scandals back in the 90s. They were making it easy for these predators by being focused on selfish things. IMO

I do have a hard time making any sense of the Shannon Gilbert aspect. I’ve always struggled with the coincidence of the calls to victims’ families. Dr. Hackett’s call to SG’s mom seemed so similar in nature to the call’s MB’s sister and MBB’s roommate (off memory) got from their killer. Based on the evidence in the bail doc, I now have to believe that these calls were just coincidences. Which means there are likely more people on the sadism spectrum than we know!

 

[NyxNY]

Been wondering that myself. Also, this identification was made in September-October, her family notified in October, and from the Presser: we were beginning our grand jury confidential investigation into what has been known as the Gilgo 4 -- that is, the murders of Maureen Brainard-Barnes, Melissa Barthelemy, Megan Waterman, and Amber Costello -- so we decided we were not going to make any public comment at this time."

The confidential Grand Jury Gilgo 4 investigation began immediately on the heels of learning this name. RH had been identified as a suspect in what February or March?

certainly suggestive . . .

Yes, March, and I hear you loud and clear.

 

[iamshadow21]

Do we know how theyve determined that, because her NamUs doesnt say anything about Gilgo

Could it be that the investigator to contact is part of the taskforce? It's listed as a Suffolk County case.

MOO

 

[Luzie!]

RH would’ve been 29 or 30, then. This was in the years between his first and second marriage and while he was working the internship in Freeport, NY. It is the year before he started his business and bought his mother’s home.

I read this : "Rex Heuermann is an architect who founded the New York City firm RH Consultants and Associates in 1994, according to the company's website" so he should have had his own firm already or was setting it up at this point ?