Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #9

[Luna20]

Probably, for some. Just guessing, but Rex probably controlled the family finances. She may not have known how much was owed in back taxes, etc.

Do you know if Asa knew the amount and type of guns he had in the house?

 

[girlhasnoname]

Probably, for some. Just guessing, but Rex probably controlled the family finances. She may not have known how much was owed in back taxes, etc.

True, I bet she didn't, but if they were filing married/jointly she will be held as responsible as RH IMO. She would have had to sign off on the dotted line as well.

MOO

 

[dotr]

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[LadyL]

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If my strange co-worker tracked me down on a cruise in the middle of the ocean and had a note delivered to my cabin stating "I told you I could find you" I'd probably quit as soon as I returned.

jmo

for sure
maybe even email from the cruise

 

[slow.robot]

his use of burner phones is baffling to me...they found evidence related to 7 burner phones he'd used...isn't the whole point of using a burner phone to dispose of it? they presumably would've had to find them in his possession--or am I missing something? keeping a collection of used burner phones seems like a really dumb move for a guy who's been described as pretty intelligent.

 

[dotr]

Does anyone know of a way to see the 20/20 show in Australia, or if it will eventually be released there?

 

[FromGermany1]

his use of burner phones is baffling to me...they found evidence related to 7 burner phones he'd used...isn't the whole point of using a burner phone to dispose of it? they presumably would've had to find them in his possession--or am I missing something? keeping a collection of used burner phones seems like a really dumb move for a guy who's been described as pretty intelligent.

Probably the burner phones were his memorabilia of his many evil talks with victims (before the meetings) and talks with family of victims (after the killings). Too valuable to be destroyed. Perhaps his serial of evil calls wasn't done yet, and he needed 7 phones for the continuation of his harassments (think of anniversaries). Should we assume, he had 7 victims, each burner phone for one special victim? (Maybe, he had a proper accounting of it?)

 

[sds71]

Erin Moriarty: I mean, isn't there a real concern that there may be other victims out there?

Ray Tierney: Always.

Rodney Harrison: Who's to say there's not more bodies out there that we need to investigate?

Co-worker: Rex Heuermann once unnerved her by tracking her down on a cruise: "I told you I could find you anywhere"

Exclusive details about the NYC architect accused of being the Long Island serial killer, his life and how he may have been hiding in plain sight for more than a decade.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[kittythehare]

his use of burner phones is baffling to me...they found evidence related to 7 burner phones he'd used...isn't the whole point of using a burner phone to dispose of it? they presumably would've had to find them in his possession--or am I missing something? keeping a collection of used burner phones seems like a really dumb move for a guy who's been described as pretty intelligent.

Burner phones have numbers.
Numbers that phone other numbers belonging to victims..

 

[Betty P]

Burner phones have numbers.
Numbers that phone other numbers belonging to victims..

Right. They used cell phone data from victims' phones. They validated it, I think, by using data from cell phone towers in the area where victims were last known to have been. JMO, they used a combination of all that, mapping times, locations, etc. until they found numbers that matched.

 

[hazel324]

Does anyone know of a way to see the 20/20 show in Australia, or if it will eventually be released there?

Hi Dot, I'm in NZ...we will get the 20/20 episode eventually but guess it depends on when one of our respective Networks will shell out the dosh for it. I saw that it can be watched on "Hulu" - when I went to hulu's Youtube channel only an 8.43 preview is available right now.

 

[amaraya]

Hi Dot, I'm in NZ...we will get the 20/20 episode eventually but guess it depends on when one of our respective Networks will shell out the dosh for it. I saw that it can be watched on "Hulu" - when I went to hulu's Youtube channel only an 8.43 preview is available right now.

Yiu can watch it with a VPN, that is how i saw it in europe.

 

[slow.robot]

Burner phones have numbers.
Numbers that phone other numbers belonging to victims..

true, but in order to connect those numbers to him, they would've had to have found the phones in his possession (or his fingerprints on them, etc.), no? if he'd gotten rid of them as he went, presumably, they wouldn't have been able to link them to any of those numbers.

 

[girlhasnoname]

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The court documents stated that the burner phones used by Heuermann to contact the victims constantly pinged off the same cell towers as his legitimate phone. They also pinged off the cell towers near his office in Midtown Manhattan and close to his family residence in Massapequa Park, where investigators recently discovered a plethora of eerie evidence. Records further showed that the locations of Heuermann's personal mobile and the burner phones coincided with the locations of the victims’ disappearances in Massapequa, Long Island, and Midtown Manhattan. “Investigators could find no instance where Heuermann was in a separate location from these other cellphones when such a communication event occurred,” the court documents state.

To me it reads that after LE did cell phone tower dumps the victims phone, RH's burner phone and his own personal cell all pinged together each time.

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How investigators say they connected the dots that led to Gilgo Beach murder arrest
MOO

 

[Betty P]

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The court documents stated that the burner phones used by Heuermann to contact the victims constantly pinged off the same cell towers as his legitimate phone. They also pinged off the cell towers near his office in Midtown Manhattan and close to his family residence in Massapequa Park, where investigators recently discovered a plethora of eerie evidence. Records further showed that the locations of Heuermann's personal mobile and the burner phones coincided with the locations of the victims’ disappearances in Massapequa, Long Island, and Midtown Manhattan. “Investigators could find no instance where Heuermann was in a separate location from these other cellphones when such a communication event occurred,” the court documents state.

To me it reads that after LE did cell phone tower dumps the victims phone, RH's burner phone and his own personal cell all pinged together each time.

EBM: Add link
How investigators say they connected the dots that led to Gilgo Beach murder arrest
MOO

IIRC, there's also security cam video of him taking one of the burner phones into a store to purchase more minutes. His Tinder account was also linked to one of the burner phones.
Below is a compilation of articles about Rex. You have to scroll down to find the relevant articles.

Gilgo Beach murders: Timeline shows what led to arrest of suspect Rex Heuermann in Long Island

A timeline of events shows what led to Rex Heuermann’s arrest. He's charged with 3 killings known as the Gilgo Beach murders in Long Island, New York.

www.usatoday.com

Scroll down for the video/photo on this one, too.

How the police caught the Long Island serial killer suspect

The architect accused of murdering three Gilgo Beach victims was linked to the crimes by a police task force who followed up leads involving burner phones, fake emails addresses and a pizza.

www.dailymail.co.uk

JMO, the prosecutors have done a good job of getting multiple sources for digital and witness evidence that Rex Heuermann was the killer.

 

[Ruminations]

true, but in order to connect those numbers to him, they would've had to have found the phones in his possession (or his fingerprints on them, etc.), no? if he'd gotten rid of them as he went, presumably, they wouldn't have been able to link them to any of those numbers.

The investigators found that the various burner numbers that contacted victims traveled with his subscription cell phone. The DA specified that they did not find a time when Rex's phone of record did not travel with the burner of the time.

I believe he used his charge card in the same locations at least one burner phone was.

And at least one time he accessed an email account associated with a burner phone with his phone of record.

I don't know how many physical burner phones they recovered...I only know he had one on him upon arrest.

But there are other circumstantial ways to tie him to burner phones beyond recovering them among his possessions.

MOO

Edited to add: this entire post is useless compared to Betty's sourced response with the same theme.

 

[Betty P]

Photo of him paying cash at a phone store to buy minutes for one of his burner phones in May. Photo from Daily Mail link above.

 

[slow.robot]

<snipped & BBM>

The court documents stated that the burner phones used by Heuermann to contact the victims constantly pinged off the same cell towers as his legitimate phone. They also pinged off the cell towers near his office in Midtown Manhattan and close to his family residence in Massapequa Park, where investigators recently discovered a plethora of eerie evidence. Records further showed that the locations of Heuermann's personal mobile and the burner phones coincided with the locations of the victims’ disappearances in Massapequa, Long Island, and Midtown Manhattan. “Investigators could find no instance where Heuermann was in a separate location from these other cellphones when such a communication event occurred,” the court documents state.

To me it reads that after LE did cell phone tower dumps the victims phone, RH's burner phone and his own personal cell all pinged together each time.

EBM: Add link
How investigators say they connected the dots that led to Gilgo Beach murder arrest
MOO

ah, now I get it! that makes sense. thank you, girlhasnoname, Betty P, and Ruminations for helping me understand! couldn't think how the burner phones could be tied to him if he didn't still have them, but that makes it very clear how they were able to piece that together.

 

[Betty P]

ah, now I get it! that makes sense. thank you, girlhasnoname, Betty P, and Ruminations for helping me understand! couldn't think how the burner phones could be tied to him if he didn't still have them, but that makes it very clear how they were able to piece that together.

JMO, investigators did an amazing job of researching, analyzing and tying it all together. They must have had a large team of experts combing through data and chasing down leads. It’s no wonder the discovery files turned over to Rex’s defense team are so large. If his defense attorneys are going through it now, they must be very worried.

 

[FromGermany1]

Was Rex Heuermann's wife sleeping next to the Long Island serial killer?

Asa Ellerup has come under public scrutiny following her husband's arrest for three of the Gilgo Beach murders, but the daughters of notorious serial killers BTK and the Happy Face Killer have come to her defense.

www.cbsnews.com

Henriquez spoke to "48 Hours" exclusively and says that Heuermann gave her a sweater in 2007 that Ellerup had picked up while she was on a trip to her native Iceland. Henriquez wonders if Ellerup's trip out of the country might have given Heuermann the opportunity to kill Maureen Brainard-Barnes, who disappeared that same summer. Henriquez has held onto the sweater and says it is a reminder of two women she believes are victims.

"Because the wife's a victim as well," said Henriquez. "For him to ask her to bring back gifts for his employees, and then he's also … betraying her."

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I'm worried about the sweater .....