Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Ursamajr]

DBM.

 

[Momoffourboys]

I have a few photos and a video of an area we frequent. Accessible by permit for 4x4 only. This area is east of Gilgo and west of Oak beach. Not sure it is within TOS to post?

 

[Momoffourboys]

It looks to be a Ford M151. Both RH and CH seem to possess military vehicles. We know RH has an extensive cache of weapons. Wonder if CH does as well. (Credit for this image goes elsewhere)
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Certainly a possibility.
The older Jeeps look similar.

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[Just K]

Another poster was posting about Google maps images of a truck, back a page or so and I just wanted to jump in on this. When the Gilgo 4 bodies were first located in December 2010 many posters (myself included) looked at archived Google maps images and found one or two where there was a dark truck parked along Ocean Beach Parkway near the site. It was very similar to Heuermann's truck. I've been searching the old old posts on the original LISK forum but there were thousands of posts/multiple threads and I've not found that yet.

MrsPC, that is what compelled me to login, after 7 years. I distinctly remember the Green truck/described as possibly SUV. The images were visible here. I feel like someone like Seaslug or Carbuff, iirc, may have been the member who was good at mapping. If they come back, maybe he or she will know where these images were posted. Was there an early thread called Maps

 

[CuriousCricket]

“Is it in the news?” he asked.

Gilgo Beach serial killer suspect had one chilling question after his arrest

Court documents have revealed that over the last year between March 2022 and June 2023, Heuermann repeatedly looked online for updates in the investigation – and details about the task force hunting him

www.independent.co.uk

Contrary to my earlier thinking, this question makes me wonder if he was thinking about his family? Always as I passed this in the feed, I attributed it to his ego and wanting to have the attention. But he was arrested at work. Perhaps he was hoping his family had been told and would not learn of it in the news????

 

[Deleted member 117884]

Another poster was posting about Google maps images of a truck, back a page or so and I just wanted to jump in on this. When the Gilgo 4 bodies were first located in December 2010 many posters (myself included) looked at archived Google maps images and found one or two where there was a dark truck parked along Ocean Beach Parkway near the site. It was very similar to Heuermann's truck. I've been searching the old old posts on the original LISK forum but there were thousands of posts/multiple threads and I've not found that yet.

Maybe it would be quicker to search through google map rather than through WS threads. If the images were street views, you can usually "see more dates."

Not sure if that is helpful or not.

jmo

 

[Deleted member 117884]

Contrary to my earlier thinking, this question makes me wonder if he was thinking about his family? Always as I passed this in the feed, I attributed it to his ego and wanting to have the attention. But he was arrested at work. Perhaps he was hoping his family had been told and would not learn of it in the news????

I thought about business associates. Perhaps it hadn't quite sunk in that he will not be free again and was wondering about his livelihood and how this news would damage it.

jmo

 

[Ursamajr]

Maybe it would be quicker to search through google map rather than through WS threads. If the images were street views, you can usually "see more dates."

Not sure if that is helpful or not.

jmo

I've been trying to find them that way but I wonder if google has cleared some of its cache of maps. Since we have images of RHs vehicles at his home it would be amazing if we could compare. Even though I followed this case since the beginning, I didn't frequent Websleuths until 2017. I am hoping the person that claims to have them posts them. I don't think a google map image of a public parkway is against the rules. Please correct me if wrong.

 

[CuriousCricket]

Perhaps some of her possessions were stored in the same room as the burlap he used for "duck hunting" and her hair fell on/in it while she was fetching her own things (for the trip she took?). I don't know if we can read into it that the victims were taken to his house. He could quite easily have put some in his car ahead of meeting them, if that was his plan all along.

Apparently he was a cheapskate in all areas. Just think how much simpler his life would have been if he'd simply purchased supplies and kept them bagged and protected, separate from what he used at home. And these are not expensive items.

 

[EllaMinnowP]

MrsPC, that is what compelled me to login, after 7 years. I distinctly remember the Green truck/described as possibly SUV. The images were visible here. I feel like someone like Seaslug or Carbuff, iirc, may have been the member who was good at mapping. If they come back, maybe he or she will know where these images were posted. Was there an early thread called Maps

Fwiw, I believe this is the old thread you’re remembering. Many of the photos are no longer available, but some still are.

Maps & Aerial Photos *** NO DISCUSSION ***

I credit Truthspider with the next series of photos that target an area of concern that he pointed out to us a few months ago. This is what the area looks like on Google that sparked his interest; Here is the same area taken March 2011; Here it is again viewed from the South in March...

www.websleuths.com

 

[Ursamajr]

I thought about business associates. Perhaps it hadn't quite sunk in that he will not be free again and was wondering about his livelihood and how this news would damage it.

jmo

Exclusive: Gilgo Beach murder suspect’s employee speaks out
There were 5 employees listed at the company. RH, a relation of RH, two men and a woman. This is one of the men.

 

[Deleted member 117884]

Exclusive: Gilgo Beach murder suspect’s employee speaks out
There were 5 employees listed at the company. RH, a relation of RH, two men and a woman. This is one of the men.

Thanks. I wish we could hear more from his employees.

I think it's common when facing distressing news out of the blue to immediately think how this will affect you personally. The employee thought about what the arrest means for his own employment and I suspect Ogre did too. I think that's normal. Then....when the news sinks in, you expand your thoughts to the bigger picture. (Though RH is likely still only thinking of himself, imo.)

All the best to his employees and clients - they are victims in this too and are left with a mess to figure out.

So much destruction and distress caused by this demon, which is likely what motivated him. He's a destroyer.

jmo

 

[NyxNY]

Flipped and zoomed in just a bit and that second frame looks very suspect.

Are the people that are actually seeing something in these negatives viewing them on a 55" Flat TV screen or something?? I am on a 22" computer monitor and can't mark out a darned thing. Zooming in, it becomes too pixelated. What are you all seeing please?

 

[Justice101]

Agree, it would be in the first set of thoughts after the shock of it dies down. Sounds perfectly natural.

Just based on his looks and that semi-natural interview he gave on youtube, I would have not suspected this guy at all.

So again, it just goes to show you how people can lead double lives behind the scenes and you not have a clue.

 

[Just K]

Fwiw, I believe this is the old thread you’re remembering. Many of the photos are no longer available, but some still are.

Maps & Aerial Photos *** NO DISCUSSION ***

I credit Truthspider with the next series of photos that target an area of concern that he pointed out to us a few months ago. This is what the area looks like on Google that sparked his interest; Here is the same area taken March 2011; Here it is again viewed from the South in March...

www.websleuths.com

Thank You!!! That is what I was looking for.

 

[FlukeU]

I think that one of the most telling things about RH uncovered in the infantile stages of this investigations is how he obsessively holds on to things.


Aside from being an apparent packrat (evidenced by his crowded house of belongings), holding onto his grandfather's WH belt, the appearance of his childhood house which was stated he was trying to preserve as it was the way his parents were alive and not keep up or change or even renovate, and reports of his car that was messy and filled with papers and junk - the most telling in my opinion is the first generation Forest Green Chevy Avalanche. I mean he used this car to pickup Amber (it was identified by her roommate Dave) and most likely used to pick up the other girls as well and then sadly transport their bodies to Ocean Parkway. It would be riddled with their DNA. It should have been his biggest worry being parked outside of his house - yet he doesn't get rid of it or ditch or sink it or burn it. He sells it to his brother down in SC. Keeps a tie to it, even though he knows it could be incriminating one day. It represents attachment to these girls, his trophies, his victories, that Forest Green Avalanche is something that represented fond memories that he simply refused to part with even if someday it comes back to haunt him. More so, he then has the gaul to replace that first generation Forest Green Chevy Avalanche with a new black Avalanche - probably for all the same reasons and associations. This new Avalanche was vital to the investigator in term of narrowing him down IMO. They knew the killer drove an Avalanche years and years ago as it was identified by Schaller (Ambers roommate who also gave the crucial 'Ogre-like' description), they had cell tower pings from midtown Manhattan and Massapequa, and they knew he was Ogre-like. A simple car search for Chevy Avalanches registered to Massapequa address in 2007-2009 or even currently was the break in the case, then getting a visual on him and seeing his size and sort of lumbering body type - Ogre, boom. Dig deeper, he works in Manhattan a few blocks from the other cell tower pings. Dig deeper, his wife is out of town at time of murders. Collect His DNA from a garbage pail in NYC, and collect his wife’s DNA from bottles left in their recycling bin, and it’s case closed. It all starts with the Avalanche though, the cell tower pings in NYC and Massapequa were previously known about for years and even public knowledge - but not enough to go on or narrow anyone down but the Avalanche info revisited by the Task Force was what lead them to that house, and be seen as Ogre-like, to be uncovered as a commuter that worked near the NYC cell tower pings. What could have initially been a cursory PO drive by the house as someone in a larger group of people who owned a Avalanche and lived near the Massapequa cell tower quickly snowballed and snowballed and having a new Avalanche in the driveway might have put him on top of the list to dig deeper with.


If he held onto the Avalanche; the single most incriminating, DNA holding, and easily identified object from his killing days, he held onto more than just the memories of those four girls. There has to be some of the missing possessions from the Gilgo 4 girls in that house. Not in storage, not in his office, not in his car - but in that house and probably close to wear he puts his head down to rest at night. This was obsession. Just like other addicts that can't cut ties with things like drugs or alcohol or gambling that they know are damning, the Avalanche represents that for Rex Andrew Heuermann and I'm sure there's more. More mementos from the victims, more clusters of burial sites (his trophy cases), more evil incarnate.

 

[Friday13]

Flipped and zoomed in just a bit and that second frame looks very suspect.

The second and third frames look very suspect to me. IMOO, the second one looks like someone laying down, arms out a bit. The third one looks like someone laying in the fetal position.

It could just be my mind playing tricks on me considering where they were found and the surrounding circumstances, but my gut didn’t like those negatives the second I looked at them and that’s exactly what I thought as I saw them.

 

[CuriousCricket]

Quoting from the argument on the train story: "While he was legally registered to own 92 guns, police found over 200 firearms and other weapons in the small house."

I don't know anything about New York law. Could someone tell us if that means the 108 unregistered guns are illegal or could they be legal because he's owned them longer than the registration law has been on the books?

 

[ArianeEmory]

Are the people that are actually seeing something in these negatives viewing them on a 55" Flat TV screen or something?? I am on a 22" computer monitor and can't mark out a darned thing. Zooming in, it becomes too pixelated. What are you all seeing please?

I think they're also failing to take into account that they're negatives, but there's basically no stopping this stuff once it starts.

 

[NottaYutz]

Me too but I cant fiGure out the narritive . No one born after 1978 says food stamps, and Well, WTF.

06/23/2004 NYT article headline "Electronic Cards Replace Coupons For Food Stamps"

ELECTRONIC CARDS REPLACE COUPONS FOR FOOD STAMPS (Published 2004)

Bush administration completes conversion of food stamp program from paper coupons to electronic debit cards; invites public to suggest new name for program; Sec Ann M Veneman explains changes; photo; more than 23 million people receive food stamp benefits, but only three out of five eligible...

www.nytimes.com