Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[NyxNY]

My blood just ran cold when I heard him say that..

I deeply truly and sincerely want to be wrong about this.

!?WHO?! !?WHAT?! Don't keep me in suspense here!

 

[Baby baby Jane]

Many Long Islanders like to drive to Manhattan … esp those who drive early, leave early/late. It’s about 1.25-1.5 hrs from Massapequa on google maps today, 8:50am Friday in August google maps. Certainly during summer when traffic is lighter. 36 Miles. Driving on that bridge is free, doesn’t really take longer depending on traffic. Runs his own office, can use parking & vehicle as business expense. He was not going out of his way, this area was on his commute if he drove.

Around that area in Queens, 10-15 yrs ago there motels, Hostess bars, lap dance - I was just a person who drove thru occasionally. It wasn’t a residential, leafy family type area. There are some 24 hour businesses, a lot of thru traffic. It’s prob different now …

 

[sceawian]

Aug 11 2023 rbbm

Attorneys: Family of Rex Heuermann to file notice of claim to protect legal rights

Heuermann’s estranged wife, Asa Ellerup, says she has been suffering from cancer and her health insurance is due to expire.

bronx.news12.com

''The attorneys for the family of Gilgo Beach murders suspect Rex Heuermann will be providing an update on the family's status this afternoon.

Lawyers for Heuermann’s wife, Asa Ellerup, and the lawyer for his children Victoria Heuermann and Christopher Sheridan say they are going to show never-before-seen photos of the Heuermann household.''

''The press conference is set for 2 p.m'

This sounds like they are going to be making a public statement / complaint about how the house was left after the police search?

 

[WINDSOR]

Lol, it was me, and no i did/do not know RH!

What lead you to believe it was an architect, just a random guess?

 

[NyxNY]

Thanks for this info. This bridge and location are intriguing because it keeps popping up in this case. I've wondered if there is a marina here, or within a mile or two for people to keep their boats?

the 59th Street Bridge (aka Ed Koch Queensboro Bridge) is a very common meeting area/landmark for Manhattan/Queens/Brooklyn/Long Island. It's not like you are just standing and waiting at the foot of a bridge. It's very scenic. It is high traffic people on foot, hanging out etc. It has been in so many movie scenes I can't even count. Most would recognize it, and once you realize what the location actually looks like, you wouldn't think it out of the ordinary to be a common place. Like any body of water in and around Long Island, yes there are Marinas, but again, high traffic--not too much privacy. Below are screenshots of the 59th Street Bridge locale

Edited to add map showing marinas

 

[SonsOfCain]

I have some issues with this as well. We have Hawkshaw's thread for this so I'll just say... It's going to require a lot of faith to think Law Enforcement will audit themselves regarding this case... and I don't have much faith in SCPD.



YES - I also believe there has to be another location. He's had access to a rough estimate of *thousands* of job sites since he went into architecture in the 80s. Easily thousands. Source for that number: My husband is an engineer in NYC/Long Island and works alongside architects. Heuermann called himself an "architectural consultant". My guy says he could have had *unfettered access* to entire buildings while under construction and most likely did if he was lead on the project. He could have had someone meet him at a property, did whatever he did, then have a crew (none the wiser) cover or obliterate evidence the next day. If he was doing this is buildings he was doing renovations on - who knows if any evidence exists. Who would even know where to start.


Yup. I hate this thought most of all.

I would not be surprised in the least if he used buildings he was working on to commit his sick crimes. One thing that’s been sitting with me from the start is that multiple people who worked with him have commented on how strict and rigid and “by the book” he was when it came to building codes. Almost to an obsessive degree. He didn’t want to get cited/sued/investigated if a building he was working on wasn’t up to code.

I think he was so obsessive about making sure the buildings were up to code because he was hiding something in at least one of those buildings.

 

[bestill]

Aug 11 2023 rbbm

Attorneys: Family of Rex Heuermann to file notice of claim to protect legal rights

Heuermann’s estranged wife, Asa Ellerup, says she has been suffering from cancer and her health insurance is due to expire.

bronx.news12.com

''The attorneys for the family of Gilgo Beach murders suspect Rex Heuermann will be providing an update on the family's status this afternoon.

Lawyers for Heuermann’s wife, Asa Ellerup, and the lawyer for his children Victoria Heuermann and Christopher Sheridan say they are going to show never-before-seen photos of the Heuermann household.''

''The press conference is set for 2 p.m'

Have we ever had a family of an accused hire an attorney and go after LE for destruction of their personal property during searches? JMO - seems this may be where it's headed.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

the 59th Street Bridge (aka Ed Koch Queensboro Bridge) is a very common meeting area/landmark for Manhattan/Queens/Brooklyn/Long Island. It's not like you are just standing and waiting at the foot of a bridge. It's very scenic. It is high traffic people on foot, hanging out etc. It has been in so many movie scenes I can't even count. Most would recognize it, and once you realize what the location actually looks like, you wouldn't think it out of the ordinary to be a common place. Like any body of water in and around Long Island, yes there are Marinas, but again, high traffic--not too much privacy. Below are screenshots of the 59th Street Bridge locale

Edited to add map showing marinas

What you really need is street view on lower level approach on Queen Boulevard … so ugly there is probably no photos!!

 

[SonsOfCain]

Have we ever had a family of an accused hire an attorney and go after LE for destruction of their personal property during searches? JMO - seems this may be where it's headed.

Lawsuit accuses Raleigh police of illegally raiding two families' homes using no-knock warrant

A lawsuit filed by local civil rights advocates on behalf of two Raleigh families accuses the Raleigh Police Department of illegally raiding two homes in May 2020.

www.wral.com

I found the above article. It seems like there have been a few instances where someone sues LE for doing the same. I don’t know how common it is or if people have ever been successful with the lawsuit.

 

[dotr]

Have we ever had a family of an accused hire an attorney and go after LE for destruction of their personal property during searches? JMO - seems this may be where it's headed.

Re post of info, possibly relevant to the RH case going forward. imo.

Taxpayers pick up cost of damage to Williams' home

Ontario taxpayers footed the bill to repair the floors of convicted sex killer Col. Russell Williams' Ottawa home after police searched it for evidence.

www.ctvnews.ca

''BELLEVILLE, Ont. - Ontario taxpayers footed the bill to repair the floors of convicted sex killer Col. Russell Williams' Ottawa home after police searched it for evidence.
An Ontario Provincial Police spokeswoman says if there's damage after police search a home, an owner can seek compensation.
Sgt. Kristine Rae says such a request was made for the Williams residence, and it was granted.''

''The brother of one of Williams' murder victims, Andy Lloyd, called it ridiculous that police paid "$3,000 to fix her hardwood floors and apparently $1,400 to fix a lamp because the OPP damaged them dragging boxes of bras out of her house."
During a videotaped police interrogation, which was shown in court this week, Williams became teary-eyed as he desperately tried to protect his wife's home from a destructive police search.''

NOTING fwiw..

Wife of serial killer Russell Williams loses court battle

Mary Elizabeth Harriman could be forced to testify against Williams for first time

macleans.ca

''At the heart of the dispute is a “domestic contract” the couple signed in March 2010, six weeks after Williams, now 51, admitted to his depraved, late-night crime spree. Harriman paid her husband $62,000 in cash and assumed the remaining mortgage on their $700,000 Ottawa townhouse, while he took sole possession of their lakefront cottage in Tweed, Ont., purchased a few years earlier for $178,000 (and located just three doors down from Massicotte’s house). Although Williams is the primary defendant in Massicotte’s $7-million lawsuit, Harriman is accused of participating in a “fraudulent conveyance” aimed at protecting her partner’s assets from potential litigation.

Two other multi-million-dollar lawsuits—one filed by “Jane Doe,” Williams’s first sexual assault victim; the other by the family of Jessica Lloyd, who was abducted from her Belleville home and strangled inside the cottage—contain identical allegations: that the post-arrest land transfer, “clearly suspicious” and carried out in “secret,” should be reversed. (As Maclean’s reported last May, Williams has since sold the cottage for $165,000, with the proceeds being held in trust pending the outcome of each lawsuit.)

In court documents, Harriman denies the property transfer was fraudulent, saying she had “absolutely no intention whatsoever” of shielding assets and that the deal was signed solely to ensure her “financial security.”

 

[scapa]

It seems to me that a lot of people missed this very important tip and this guy could have been off the streets long ago bc he wasn’t as careful and meticulous as we thought.

Yep.

And Zeman & Co must be kicking themselves that they had this crucial clue in the nearview and weren't able to pass it on to a new and far more invested LE setup that might at last have been ready to act on it.

 

[CuriousCricket]

No marina. There are a few canals, East River but risky for dumpsite

I wasn't seeing it as a dump site, but as a meeting place, a starting point for a clandestine meeting. However, it sounds too public to be seen with someone you are intending to kill (of course, that did not deter RH with Amber Costello) or a place to return a boat with a missing passenger . . . I am suspecting that if there are any other dumpsites for RH they are desolate beaches. Knowing he had a 4x4 permit and access to a boat would make desolate beaches a possibility.

 

[Keith417]

bbm
Which member did know it? So accurate, it can't have been a confusion with another person. That's very interesting! And just as disappointing, when it took years since then for RH to be found out.

I am not sure but someone reposted it on the Gilgo beach thread around the time he was arrested. I was in total shock when I saw it.

 

[Keith417]

Lol, it was me, and no i did/do not know RH!

How did you come up with that??

 

[NyxNY]

Lol, it was me, and no i did/do not know RH!

Wowzers! Way back in 2016. You even mention green house FGS! Are you clairvoyante by chance? Here is her post: (amazing)

• Nov 14, 2016

#250

dotr said:

Maybe perp keeps his own " green house" masks or explains odour by saying he is using compost/manure for growing.
He could be an architect who works in an office in the city, and in the summer months oversees his landscaping and other design projects " out in the field."
speculation.

 

[Sundog]

Have we ever had a family of an accused hire an attorney and go after LE for destruction of their personal property during searches? JMO - seems this may be where it's headed.

I do wonder what the motive for the press conference is. At first I thought that maybe the attorney for AE thinks that by doing a press conference then maybe the media will back off hounding the family if they are given info at a press conference.

But then when I read that the attorneys would be showing photos of the inside of the house, I, too, wonder if they are going to blame LE for destruction of the house. If they go that route, then the family could very well lose public sympathy. I think that would be a bad strategy. I guess we'll know soon what the motivation for the press conferrence is.

edit for typos

 

[Ruminations]

Thank you very much for this explanation. That makes sense, and now I understand why people were unhappy with his interview. Thanks again.

Note: this post is about Rex Heuermanns alleged victims.

Yeah, the Commissioner had me until then. I thought he was pretty good.

I thought the sheriff was super, actually referring to prisoners as victims of drug trafficking rather than prostitutes. It made me trust that the sheriff could credibly assert he was getting info from them.

Look, just because I disagree doesn't mean that my peers on this board are not entitled to their own opinions. But the Commissioner is a public-facing pro. He could have used much more respectful words, since many of us suspect that Shannan was murdered. He could have simply said, "There is no information linking the suspect to Shannan Gilbert," or something like that.

This is the thing. It seems so obvious to Some of us that Shannan was murdered, that he seems deceptive and untrustworthy saying what he said. And then confidence in every case in the County is eroded.

Those of us who believe Shannan was murdered want justice for the women Rex is accused of murdering, too. No less than we want it for Shannan.

So losing faith is about Rex's alleged victims.

MOO

 

[Ruminations]

Do we know if RH had a previous address that would make commute using the 59th St. bridge more plausible? Since the bridge connects Queens/Midtown, are there any Queens addresses he may have lived at or worked with at the time? I apologize if this has been asked already, have not been able to keep up with the threads. Brings up for me the call made that mentioned a "w**** house in Queens." I was also thinking about the handcuff keys that were supposedly found at the residence. Is it possible he (or someone) pretended to be an undercover cop and told Maureen he was "arresting" her, then took her in the opposite direction of a police station?

Random thoughts.

Oh, my. A false arrest would seem plausible.

But the bridge could be worth the trip as it is expensive to take toll routes. When there is little traffic, that and bridges like Willis Ave are worth the trip. It's not a significant detour.

MOO

 

[Ruminations]

Lawsuit accuses Raleigh police of illegally raiding two families' homes using no-knock warrant

A lawsuit filed by local civil rights advocates on behalf of two Raleigh families accuses the Raleigh Police Department of illegally raiding two homes in May 2020.

www.wral.com

I found the above article. It seems like there have been a few instances where someone sues LE for doing the same. I don’t know how common it is or if people have ever been successful with the lawsuit.

They knocked.

Edited to clarify: I meant the search on Heuermann's property was not no-knock. Sorry to confuse.

MOO

 

[IDK]

Note: this post is about Rex Heuermanns alleged victims.

Yeah, the Commissioner had me until then. I thought he was pretty good.

I thought the sheriff was super, actually referring to prisoners as victims of drug trafficking rather than prostitutes. It made me trust that the sheriff could credibly assert he was getting info from them.

Look, just because I disagree doesn't mean that my peers on this board are not entitled to their own opinions. But the Commissioner is a public-facing pro. He could have used much more respectful words, since many of us suspect that Shannan was murdered. He could have simply said, "There is no information linking the suspect to Shannan Gilbert," or something like that.

This is the thing. It seems so obvious to Some of us that Shannan was murdered, that he seems deceptive and untrustworthy saying what he said. And then confidence in every case in the County is eroded.

Those of us who believe Shannan was murdered want justice for the women Rex is accused of murdering, too. No less than we want it for Shannan.

So losing faith is about Rex's alleged victims.

MOO

Thank you for being such a strong victim advocate and supporter. These young ladies deserve nothing less.