Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[hazel324]

I really hope the VSP revisit RH in relation to the 29 Stalker and the murder of Alicia Showalter Reynolds- whose murder, dump site in 1996, mirrors those of the dumping of Jessica Taylor and the other Manorville victims. I suspect he evolved in his method of finding victims and later cut away identifying features and began dismembering before deciding that was not necessary.

Note his new haircut and the 1996 composite pictures. He absolutely matches the description and drawing and the 29 Stalker also chose to drive a green pickup truck

Chin and mouth yes, nose, eyes, ears not imo plus stalker's height shorter - hard to miss a giant!

Plus this stalking activity carried on over time - was he in that area for enough time for this to be a regular hobby ikn but dts

I've thought since arrest tho' that there will be many others attributed to RH...just will take time to match

 

[Justice101]

I really hope the VSP revisit RH in relation to the 29 Stalker and the murder of Alicia Showalter Reynolds- whose murder, dump site in 1996, mirrors those of the dumping of Jessica Taylor and the other Manorville victims. I suspect he evolved in his method of finding victims and later cut away identifying features and began dismembering before deciding that was not necessary.

Note his new haircut and the 1996 composite pictures. He absolutely matches the description and drawing and the 29 Stalker also chose to drive a green pickup truck

The sketch does look close... but the height of the Rte 29 stalker was estimated to be 5'-10" to 6'-0" and RH is like 6'-6" which is much much taller.

I think that rules RH out as the Rte 29 stalker.

 

[FromGermany1]

The sketch does look close... but the height of the Rte 29 stalker was estimated to be 5'-10" to 6'-0" and RH is like 6'-6" which is much much taller.

I think that rules RH out as the Rte 29 stalker.

Yes, maybe.

 

[CuriousCricket]

Rex has been very consistent with hairstyle over the years, parting his waves so the heavy side is over his right hand. often growing it to partially cover ears and the back of his collar. I think the first wedding photo is a bit too grainy to tell, but it does resemble the sketch. as does his HS portrait.

The wedding picture mouth is almost a perfect match.


MOO

Can we discuss his hair for a bit? How unusual is it? I don't recall ever seeing anyone shave to above the ear, completely eliminating sideburns before. It's not military, nor FBI, nor anything I've personally ever seen. However, I acknowledge my understanding is limited by my experience. Have any of you ever seen a consistent haircut such as his (and it's very long term - since at least his first wedding)? Unless someone knows it's popular in a certain part of the world, I have to wonder what purpose it has served RH for years. I can't imagine he looked worse with a more normal cut. First, anyone familiar with haircuts such as his? What purpose could it serve?

 

[FromGermany1]

Can we discuss his hair for a bit? How unusual is it? I don't recall ever seeing anyone shave to above the ear, completely eliminating sideburns before. It's not military, nor FBI, nor anything I've personally ever seen. However, I acknowledge my understanding is limited by my experience. Have any of you ever seen a consistent haircut such as his (and it's very long term - since at least his first wedding)? Unless someone knows it's popular in a certain part of the world, I have to wonder what purpose it has served RH for years. I can't imagine he looked worse with a more normal cut. First, anyone familiar with haircuts such as his? What purpose could it serve?

His ear is free of hair, because the homemade style changed from covered ear (unstylish since years) to not covered ear (unstylish, because only a fraction of an Edgar style) and didn't work any better. It seems, he is liking it.

 

[Sundog]

Can we discuss his hair for a bit? How unusual is it? I don't recall ever seeing anyone shave to above the ear, completely eliminating sideburns before. It's not military, nor FBI, nor anything I've personally ever seen. However, I acknowledge my understanding is limited by my experience. Have any of you ever seen a consistent haircut such as his (and it's very long term - since at least his first wedding)? Unless someone knows it's popular in a certain part of the world, I have to wonder what purpose it has served RH for years. I can't imagine he looked worse with a more normal cut. First, anyone familiar with haircuts such as his? What purpose could it serve?

I don't think the issue is the haircut, it is more likely that RH has some form of hair loss (could be atypical hair loss situation) and that the current haircut accentuates it more than usual.

Could be due to hereditary/genetics, disease, or other reasons, and can start as early as late teenage years or early twenties.


edited my spelling

 

[dotr]

Can we discuss his hair for a bit? How unusual is it? I don't recall ever seeing anyone shave to above the ear, completely eliminating sideburns before. It's not military, nor FBI, nor anything I've personally ever seen. However, I acknowledge my understanding is limited by my experience. Have any of you ever seen a consistent haircut such as his (and it's very long term - since at least his first wedding)? Unless someone knows it's popular in a certain part of the world, I have to wonder what purpose it has served RH for years. I can't imagine he looked worse with a more normal cut. First, anyone familiar with haircuts such as his? What purpose could it serve?

Glad you asked, had also been wondering what purpose the shaved sideburns etc. might serve.
Maybe at certain times away from the office, he switches things up and rocks a faux hawk.
speculation, imo, fwiw.

faux hawk no sideburns - Google Search

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Maybe he thinks it balances his face, or interferes with headgear/mask of some sort, glasses.

Look more fearsome

Younger, baby fat-face

Head got too big for the bowl?
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[FromGermany1]

Glad you asked, had also been wondering what purpose the shaved sideburns etc. might serve.
Maybe at certain times away from the office, he switches things up and rocks a faux hawk.
speculation, imo, fwiw.
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faux hawk no sideburns - Google Search

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Maybe he thinks it balances his face, or interferes with headgear/mask of some sort, glasses.
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Look more fearsome
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He just doesn't have the right taste for style.

 

[CuriousCricket]

He just doesn't have the right taste for style.

Thanks everyone. Could be any of the above. and you all are less devious and kinder than I. How about it makes wearing a full wig easier? On a TV show, I saw a woman preparing for a wig and she wore her real hair stuffed up into a smooth stocking cap so the wig would slide right down over her hair and the cap. So, being clean shaven in exactly the areas RH is clean shaven would mean no errant strands could sneak out? Do we need to be looking for reports of big blonde men? or men with wild red hair who might have accosted women?

of course, it might be as simple as he hates hair tickling his ears. . .

P.S. this discussion has just made me remember that in the '90s there was some of the strange haircuts (to me) that involved shaving much of the head but leaving a long over layer. The way I know this is my son snuck and got such a haircut and was in a play when he was a sophomore. Wearing a fedora, he took his fall on stage and hair parted at the back to show the shaved head to the audience. About 1994 or 1995. Leading to the ever patient director having to make a new rule concerning not getting haircuts without permission during the weeks of rehearsal.

Since RH is 10 years older than my son, that would have been during RH's youth. Maybe he just liked the style.

 

[charminglane]

Thanks everyone. Could be any of the above. and you all are less devious and kinder than I. How about it makes wearing a full wig easier? On a TV show, I saw a woman preparing for a wig and she wore her real hair stuffed up into a smooth stocking cap so the wig would slide right down over her hair and the cap. So, being clean shaven in exactly the areas RH is clean shaven would mean no errant strands could sneak out? Do we need to be looking for reports of big blonde men? or men with wild red hair who might have accosted women?

of course, it might be as simple as he hates hair tickling his ears. . .

P.S. this discussion has just made me remember that in the '90s there was some of the strange haircuts (to me) that involved shaving much of the head but leaving a long over layer. The way I know this is my son snuck and got such a haircut and was in a play when he was a sophomore. Wearing a fedora, he took his fall on stage and hair parted at the back to show the shaved head to the audience. About 1994 or 1995. Leading to the ever patient director having to make a new rule concerning not getting haircuts without permission during the weeks of rehearsal.

Since RH is 10 years older than my son, that would have been during RH's youth. Maybe he just liked the style.

I also was thinking of a wig earlier. No flyaways.

 

[dotr]

Possible re post.

Rex Heuermann in tears, 'I didn't do this,' says in Long Island serial murders

Rex Heuermann, the alleged serial killer behind the Gilgo Beach murders, denied his involvement in the killings after his arrest.

www.hindustantimes.com

''Rex Heuermann, the alleged serial killer behind the Gilgo Beach murders, was crying and denying his involvement in the killings after his arrest on Thursday, his lawyer said Friday.''

"A bully, a wimpy type of bully"

''Jul 22, 2023 #GilgoBeach #LawAndCrime
Katherine Ramsland, a serial killer expert and professor of forensic psychology, spoke to the Law&Crime Network’s Angenette Levy about the Gilgo Beach murder suspect Rex Heuermann. Ramsland detailed the parallels between Heuermann’s case and other serial killers, including Dennis Radar, who’s known as BTK. “He strikes me as a coward,” Ramsland said about Heuermann. “A wimpy type of bully who’s going after women he can easily kill, torture, whatever he did.”

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Investigators at the Suffolk County jail in Riverhead, N.Y., who belong to a sex-trafficking unit have been interviewing female inmates who have worked as escorts to gain more information about Mr. Heuermann, a 59-year-old architect who has pleaded not guilty and is being held without bail under the same roof

The Gilgo Beach Suspect May Have Hunted Them. Now They’re Key Witnesses. (Published 2023)

Investigators are talking to women behind bars who worked as escorts and had encounters with the suspect, Rex Heuermann. They had been ignored for years.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Betty P]

Investigators at the Suffolk County jail in Riverhead, N.Y., who belong to a sex-trafficking unit have been interviewing female inmates who have worked as escorts to gain more information about Mr. Heuermann, a 59-year-old architect who has pleaded not guilty and is being held without bail under the same roof

The Gilgo Beach Suspect May Have Hunted Them. Now They’re Key Witnesses. (Published 2023)

Investigators are talking to women behind bars who worked as escorts and had encounters with the suspect, Rex Heuermann. They had been ignored for years.

www.nytimes.com

Great idea!

Jail officials say they have interviewed about 120 women between the Riverhead jail and the county’s other lockup, in Yaphank. They have forwarded information to the interdepartmental Gilgo Beach Task Force from 10 inmates, who claim to have encountered Mr. Heuermann in contexts ranging from online date requests to in-person rendezvous.

Two women said that while working as escorts they had intimate encounters with Mr. Heuermann in which his violent and aggressive behavior left them frightened but not injured, said Errol D. Toulon Jr., the Suffolk County sheriff.

 

[Betty P]

Investigators at the Suffolk County jail in Riverhead, N.Y., who belong to a sex-trafficking unit have been interviewing female inmates who have worked as escorts to gain more information about Mr. Heuermann, a 59-year-old architect who has pleaded not guilty and is being held without bail under the same roof

The Gilgo Beach Suspect May Have Hunted Them. Now They’re Key Witnesses. (Published 2023)

Investigators are talking to women behind bars who worked as escorts and had encounters with the suspect, Rex Heuermann. They had been ignored for years.

www.nytimes.com

John Ray is a little more pessimistic about how much information they can get about the LISK / Rex H. He has a point, most of the sex workers from that time are probably retired or deceased. It's still a good idea, JMO. Police should always try to keep track of violent acts being committed against sex workers. Those are criminals they need to pay attention to.

John Ray, a lawyer for two Gilgo victims’ families, said it was “prudent to go straight to the sex workers and try to get deep as they can into the subculture Rex Heuermann was existing in.”

But the remains of most of the victims, who had advertised on Craigslist, were found in 2010 and 2011. Mr. Ray called it unlikely that the unit would find information relevant to the Gilgo killings, which may have occurred more than 15 years ago.

“Most of escorts back then have died or retired,” he said.

 

[Ruminations]

John Ray is a little more pessimistic about how much information they can get about the LISK / Rex H. He has a point, most of the sex workers from that time are probably retired or deceased. It's still a good idea, JMO. Police should always try to keep track of violent acts being committed against sex workers. Those are criminals they need to pay attention to.

Those who have retired could talk in theory; but they can't be reached by arrest for prostitution.

IMO most retirees who do not disclose their sex-work past to others around them will be reluctant to talk. Maybe retirees have discussed and processed their past with close people they trust, but do not want their employer, their PTA, their crazy intolerant brother-in-law, their pimp who didn't happen to book Rex, etc. to know.

So I understand the skepticism that it's going to be a huge "catch," but a small catch is a catch just the same.

The dead can't talk, but their surviving relatives and friends could. Although they frankly face the same issues the retirees face: do I want my love one branded as "sex worker."



MOO

 

[Betty P]

Those who have retired could talk in theory; but they can't be reached by arrest for prostitution.

IMO most retirees who do not disclose their sex-work past to others around them will be reluctant to talk. Maybe retirees have discussed and processed their past with close people they trust, but do not want their employer, their PTA, their crazy intolerant brother-in-law, their pimp who didn't happen to book Rex, etc. to know.

So I understand the skepticism that it's going to be a huge "catch," but a small catch is a catch just the same.

The dead can't talk, but their surviving relatives and friends could. Although they frankly face the same issues the retirees face: do I want my love one branded as "sex worker."



MOO

These might be some of the people who share information with John Ray. He keeps their identities private.
Agree also about surviving friends and relatives who may have heard a SW speak of someone like Rex H. or any violent sex offender, for that matter. They need to follow up on all of them.

I can see how this can get expensive for a local sheriff or police dept. Maybe that's why SW should be legalized and taxed - to help pay for LE staff and officers to keep an eye on the local business. JMO Like MJ and gambling/sports betting. At least I hope they're taxing the gambling and betting.

 

[Ruminations]

These might be some of the people who share information with John Ray. He keeps their identities private.
Agree also about surviving friends and relatives who may have heard a SW speak of someone like Rex H. or any violent sex offender, for that matter. They need to follow up on all of them.

I can see how this can get expensive for a local sheriff or police dept. Maybe that's why SW should be legalized and taxed - to help pay for LE staff and officers to keep an eye on the local business. JMO Like MJ and gambling/sports betting. At least I hope they're taxing the gambling and betting.

Right. And since people speaking to John Ray are speaking to him because they don't want to speak to LE, and they want the ability to stay under the GJ subpoena radar, of course.

It's natural you and I are a bit more optimistic than he.

MOO

 

[sds71]

Alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex A. Heuermann has been served with divorce papers inside the Suffolk County Jail and is not contesting the end of his marriage, a document obtained by Newsday shows.

Heuermann, 60, of Massapequa Park, signed the admission of service on Sept. 22, when he was served the summons and complaint in his pending divorce from his estranged wife Asa Ellerup, according to the document and online court records.

“I do not intend to respond to the Summons, or appear in the action, or answer the Complaint and I waive the twenty (20) day period provided by law to appear and answer the Complaint,” read the document that Heuermann signed. “I consent to the entry of a default judgment of divorce against me. … I waive the service of all further papers in this action except for a Judgment of Divorce.”

Gilgo Beach killings document: Alleged serial killer Rex Heuermann served divorce papers and is not contesting end of marriage

"I consent to the entry of a default judgment of divorce against me. ... I waive the service of all further papers in this action except for a Judgment of Divorce," the document reads.

www.newsday.com

 

[Ruminations]

Alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex A. Heuermann has been served with divorce papers inside the Suffolk County Jail and is not contesting the end of his marriage, a document obtained by Newsday shows.

Heuermann, 60, of Massapequa Park, signed the admission of service on Sept. 22, when he was served the summons and complaint in his pending divorce from his estranged wife Asa Ellerup, according to the document and online court records.

“I do not intend to respond to the Summons, or appear in the action, or answer the Complaint and I waive the twenty (20) day period provided by law to appear and answer the Complaint,” read the document that Heuermann signed. “I consent to the entry of a default judgment of divorce against me. … I waive the service of all further papers in this action except for a Judgment of Divorce.”

Gilgo Beach killings document: Alleged serial killer Rex Heuermann served divorce papers and is not contesting end of marriage

"I consent to the entry of a default judgment of divorce against me. ... I waive the service of all further papers in this action except for a Judgment of Divorce," the document reads.

www.newsday.com

Because the more Asa retains in divorce, the less is left for the alleged victims.

MOO

 

[Jurisprudence]

Alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex A. Heuermann has been served with divorce papers inside the Suffolk County Jail and is not contesting the end of his marriage, a document obtained by Newsday shows.

Heuermann, 60, of Massapequa Park, signed the admission of service on Sept. 22, when he was served the summons and complaint in his pending divorce from his estranged wife Asa Ellerup, according to the document and online court records.

“I do not intend to respond to the Summons, or appear in the action, or answer the Complaint and I waive the twenty (20) day period provided by law to appear and answer the Complaint,” read the document that Heuermann signed. “I consent to the entry of a default judgment of divorce against me. … I waive the service of all further papers in this action except for a Judgment of Divorce.”

Gilgo Beach killings document: Alleged serial killer Rex Heuermann served divorce papers and is not contesting end of marriage

"I consent to the entry of a default judgment of divorce against me. ... I waive the service of all further papers in this action except for a Judgment of Divorce," the document reads.

www.newsday.com

Three possibilities come to mind:

1. He wants to do the right thing.
2. He has bigger fish to fry.
3. He doesn't expect to be free again and therefore has no vested interest in fighting for a share of assets.

It sounds like he's not even entering into/negotiating a settlement agreement.

speculation/opinion