Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Izzylizzy]

ED meds or an STD.

Or an antibiotic prescription as a precaution?
Some doctors hand them out to have on hand.

 

[Izzylizzy]

I have to disagree for a few reasons.

Many people are not trusting of LE for various reasons, and John Ray has extended the opportunity to give information another way.

The most effective police commissioner over this case in its history asked the public to approach John Ray if they were not willing to go through Crime Stoppers (LE tip line). If the police commissioner who oversaw the task force identify, surveil and arrest Rex Heuermann trusts John Ray, why would anyone distrust him? It is absolutely not accurate that John Ray does not work in partnership with LE.

He has information that LE rejected and is highly relevant. You would think his info would be from populations involved in illegal activities, but in fact his most interesting witnesses are law abiding persons. One of them attempted to get her information accepted by crime stoppers, and was unsuccessful.

If it were not for John Ray, we would NOT have the Shannan Gilbert 911 tape.

MOO

JR said that when Rodney Harrison first came into office he contacted him then came out to his office and they talked.
It would be nice to know that these men are still in touch.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Automatic number plate recognition cameras

Are these otherwise known as plate readers? If so, yes, inoo they have them and probably have had for some years.

 

[Warwick7]

Has any MSM announced JR's presser he has scheduled for tomorrow?

Not yet, that's why Sillybilly gave me permission to post it here.

 

[Gerontion]

DBM

 

[Warwick7]

I have to disagree for a few reasons.

Many people are not trusting of LE for various reasons, and John Ray has extended the opportunity to give information another way.

The most effective police commissioner over this case in its history asked the public to approach John Ray if they were not willing to go through Crime Stoppers (LE tip line). If the police commissioner who oversaw the task force identify, surveil and arrest Rex Heuermann trusts John Ray, why would anyone distrust him? It is absolutely not accurate that John Ray does not work in partnership with LE.

He has information that LE rejected and is highly relevant. You would think his info would be from populations involved in illegal activities, but in fact his most interesting witnesses are law abiding persons. One of them attempted to get her information accepted by crime stoppers, and was unsuccessful.

If it were not for John Ray, we would NOT have the Shannan Gilbert 911 tape.

MOO

Boom!! Bam!!!!

 

[Izzylizzy]

One more comment and then I'm going to just shut up and read. A sworn affidavit is meaningless if it can't be presented in a court of law. Since (so far) John Ray doesn't represent any of the known victims, or their families , he can't present this "swinger party" affidavit in a court of law. And after seeing this witness in an interview with Banfield, I would be SHOCKED if Ray Tierney ever put her on the witness stand.

All JMO

BBM:

IMO:
The only way Tierney would maybe put LP on the stand is if the prosecution has corroborating evidence.
The ex-boyfriend who was a NYC narc and/or evidence from the house that connects Karen Vergata.
Then again if they have any evidence from the house they may not even need LP/boyfriend.

I'm going to say it now that I had questioned if LP was nodding out?

 

[Gerontion]

And if RH did both Gilgo4 and Manorville (dismemberments) that opens up this case to so many unsolved missing and murdered NY cases. Some big names in those mentioned were adamant that there were two separate murderers. I fear this RH, who traveled up and down the East Coast, for 30 years or more, and to Nevada and places unknown to us, will have many dozens of murders under his belt.

Ironically, I don’t see RH connected to Shannan. I think her death was as sad and tragic as just getting lost in that swamp. It would be too much of a coincidence that she died that death while escaping RH. Although she was escaping a couple of guys who were up to no good (Brewer and Paks). If Paks had done the job he was hired for (Shannan’s driver) she wouldn’t have died. He abandoned her.

 

[fred&edna]

I found a photo on the Peconic Club site (that wasn't shared on the thread or in media) and I think it looks very much like RH... others disagree. He does have "graying" sideburns in photo and I thought maybe he just got tired of dying them so just shaved 'em off... lol! The hairnets-don't-fit theory sounds better. I guess the picture I saw isn't him (or maybe it's his brother? I haven't seen a photo of him).

jmo

 

[Mountain_Kat]

BBM:

IMO:
The only way Tierney would maybe put LP on the stand is if the prosecution has corroborating evidence.
The ex-boyfriend who was a NYC narc and/or evidence from the house that connects Karen Vergata.
Then again if they have any evidence from the house they may not even need LP/boyfriend.

I'm going to say it now that I had questioned if LP was nodding out?

I think we also have to pump the brakes a bit because RH hasn't been charged with the murder of Karen Vergata ( not yet, anyway ) . If he can't be charged with Vergata's death, all of this is meaningless anyway.

JMO

 

[Warwick7]

News Nation

https://twitter.com/x/status/1798690027418919016

 

[Izzylizzy]

BBM
I, like others believe she is telling her truth, just like she heard it.

An affidavit is the written version of swearing under oath to tell the truth, just as if you were testifying in a courtroom.

Signing an affidavit that contains false information can subject the affiant to criminal penalties. Therefore, before signing, it is very important to read the document carefully to ensure that the information is accurate and truthful. If the affidavit includes any statements that are the opinion or belief of the affiant, the fact that it is opinion or belief needs to be clearly stated."

What Is an Affidavit and How Is It Used?

From courtrooms to everyday transitions—an affidavit is the most utilized legal document. Learn about its importance and implications.

www.legalzoom.com

What was interesting about "belief" is that LP said that "she believes she had sex with RH".
As much as I want her claims to be true about Karen Vergata I don't get how someone can remember all she claims to and not remember for certain if she did or didn't have sex with him.

 

[Warwick7]

John Ray also showed up not long after the DA did to RH's house while LE were extracting things from the house last week.

He is not only Shannan Gilbert family's lawyer, but a lawyer for other victims of RH.

That said. John Ray made it clear Gilbert didn't get lost in a swamp and died. Her neck was broken BEFORE she was found in the swamp and had a hole drilled through her head

Gilgo Beach victim attorney denies police claims of 'tragic accident'

Shannan Gilbert's relatives hit out at officers for claiming her disappearance in Long Island in 2010 was not suspicious.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Izzylizzy]

I think we also have to pump the brakes a bit because RH hasn't been charged with the murder of Karen Vergata ( not yet, anyway ) . If he can't be charged with Vergata's death, all of this is meaningless anyway.

JMO

Oh,I see, so no trying to vet any claims /so-called evidence about victims who don't have their accused indicted murderer sitting in jail.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Or she has a smart lawyer..

If you want to call this smart?
Macedonio got himself some $400,000 for Asa's Peacock deal.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Oh,I see, so no trying to vet any claims /so-called evidence about victims who don't have their accused indicted murderer sitting in jail.

I'm not in the habit of telling grown ups how to spend their time, and that was not the point I was trying to make at all. LE can, and should, vet any and all information they deem relevant. But until they are able to actually charge RH with the murder of Karen Vergata , a sworn affidavit is pretty meaningless.

IMO

 

[maamager]

i understand anyone having pause about JR. you have to walk a tight line of being respectful, fair, aggressive in your search for the truth, but sensitive to all sort of road blocks etc etc and he doesn't always get it right... but i remember at JR's last presser about the swinger stuff and who was standing right beside him.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

i understand anyone having pause about JR. you have to walk a tight line of being respectful, fair, aggressive in your search for the truth, but sensitive to all sort of road blocks etc etc and he doesn't always get it right... but i remember at JR's last presser about the swinger stuff and who was standing right beside him.

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Do you remember Rodney Harrison saying that LE hadn't thoroughly vetted all the information at that point ? I ask in all sincerity, because many people don't seem to recall that at all.

 

[maamager]

Do you remember Rodney Harrison saying that LE hadn't thoroughly vetted all the information at that point ? I ask in all sincerity, because many people don't seem to recall that at all.

no offense taken! that had honestly slipped my mind and that's a good point. optically i think they wanted to emphasize their strategy of investigating every angle

 

[maamager]

i am honestly not trying to make light of anything but i'm curious to who writes a press release like this other than a tech savvy teen in 2001? that font color is OFFENSIVE