Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[jesse]

I have to agree (sans the "bit crazy").

1) IMO AE turned a blind eye to all of RH's sick addictions.
2) Cadaver "coffee book" on the kitchen table surely needs explained.
3) AE's pay off could have been "RH's coercive control" - "you get a holiday wifey and I get SW"
4) That makes AE complicit to some degree?
5) "an open marriage"

As we still don't have clarification whether the Divorce happened or not.

All IMO

Sorry, but there's no factual evidence to suggest that she was complicit.

 

[Warwick7]

Except that's not true. Asa's been in the US since she was very young. She may have even been born here. My memory is fuzzy on that. So that makes this account unreliable, to me.

Only the last few or more pages discuss the debate on where she was born and etc...

 

[snooptroop88]

WH, William Heuermann grandfather, but also a William Heuermann is uncle of RH. The belt initials.

"HK." I've got no idea what it is, probably the hunt-kill, but interesting that William Heuermann had a daughter, Claire Heuermann Ketchum, she was buried in Arlington National Cemetery with deceased husband Valentine Terry Ketchum even though after his death, she had another marriage. Her obituary lists her in Potomac, MD. Her father-in-law (from when she was married to Ketchum) had roots in Kings County, Brooklyn, and her husband's grandfather, another Valentine Terry Ketchum, died in Lynbrook in 1940. Her second marriage is showing in Fairfax, VA.

Kind of interesting. But we really don't know which relatives RH gravitated towards. I've seen potential travel for MD and VA for RH. Here's VA: "Heuermann's mother, Dolores, had relocated to Palmyra, Virginia in 1994. His connection to this area is now shining the spotlight on cold cases that could link back to the alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer."

Rex Heuermann's alleged murder spree could spread coast-to-coast

Police nationwide are looking deeper into cold cases that may now have a connection to Rex Heuermann.

www.newsweek.com

Here's Maryland in his original bail application doc: "Based upon cellular telephone billing records, on June 4, 2010, the cellular telephone subscribed to by Defendant Heuermann’s wife traveled from New York to Maryland."

 

[Deleted member 117884]

In all honesty, I came away from that press conference feeling like Harrison had been ambushed. Maybe that's simply because I have so much respect for Harrison that I just refuse to believe that he would make what, in my opinion, was such a colossal mistake. There is just no way I can wrap my head around the notion that he intended unvetted info to be released in a press conference.

But that's just me.

Interesting take. Harrison left the task force not long afterward, though that could be completely unrelated, idk. I found it very strange that he was there, essentially playing second fiddle when he is not a second-fiddle player in this.

As for the affidavit itself, I will let time tell.

jmo

 

[Just K]

Interesting take. Harrison left the task force not long afterward, though that could be completely unrelated, idk. I found it very strange that he was there, essentially playing second fiddle when he is not a second-fiddle player in this.

As for the affidavit itself, I will let time tell.

jmo

My impression, at the time, of that presser with J Ray and R Harrison was that Harrison had already decided to “retire” from the task force. It seemed that he was now going to go off the official playbook and introduce an issue that he had tried to pursue but perhaps had been stymied on. At this point he may have felt free to bring the issue of SC investigators previously interfering or deliberately ignoring leads.

 

[Deleted member 117884]

My impression, at the time, of that presser with J Ray and R Harrison was that Harrison had already decided to “retire” from the task force. It seemed that he was now going to go off the official playbook and introduce an issue that he had tried to pursue but perhaps had been stymied on. At this point he may have felt free to bring the issue of SC investigators previously interfering or deliberately ignoring leads.

I was thinking he was there to show support for witnesses to come forward - that they will be taken seriously and if they don't want to talk to LE, they can talk to Ray.

But, I still find it odd, tbh.

jmo

 

[Izzylizzy]

Probably meaning Amityville which is the next town over imo

 

[Vern]

Yes he does, but he hadn't seen any of the new evidence yet.

Regardless, Brown is the "Defense" Attorney in this case.

Despite whatever his personal thoughts on guilt/innocence may be, he is simply going to "defend" his client publicly and in court. That's his job. To do anything different could & would be construed as "ineffective counsel". Being the 'victim' of "Ineffective Counsel" has caused numerous convictions for murder and other crimes to be overturned by the courts.

Let him DO his job. Don't take him doing that personally.

Let the prosecution do theirs.

 

[Forest_Wood]

In all honesty, I came away from that press conference feeling like Harrison had been ambushed. Maybe that's simply because I have so much respect for Harrison that I just refuse to believe that he would make what, in my opinion, was such a colossal mistake. There is just no way I can wrap my head around the notion that he intended unvetted info to be released in a press conference.

But that's just me.

Ambushed? Harrison had a long and successful career as an intelligent law enforcement professional by making critical decisions ongoing throughout his career. This was a planned and detailed press conference that I'm certain Harrison thought out thoroughly before agreeing to participate in. I find it insulting to his character and legacy that you'd declare he made a colossal mistake by standing with a lawyer who has being fighting for justice for these women for decades.
MOO.

 

[CuriousCricket]

i am honestly not trying to make light of anything but i'm curious to who writes a press release like this other than a tech savvy teen in 2001? that font color is OFFENSIVE

An older person just discovering the different fonts and colors? Or perhaps attempting to look "hip" or cool? Speaking from personal experience here. I kinda went wild when I first made the discoveries.

 

[Forest_Wood]

My impression, at the time, of that presser with J Ray and R Harrison was that Harrison had already decided to “retire” from the task force. It seemed that he was now going to go off the official playbook and introduce an issue that he had tried to pursue but perhaps had been stymied on. At this point he may have felt free to bring the issue of SC investigators previously interfering or deliberately ignoring leads.

Yes, I agree with everything you've said here! It takes planning and time to retire. Forms to be filled out, dates to be determined. Harrison took a stand and I respect him for it. MOO.

 

[Just K]

I was thinking he was there to show support for witnesses to come forward - that they will be taken seriously and if they don't want to talk to LE, they can talk to Ray.

But, I still find it odd, tbh.

jmo

Yes, that too.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Will Laura be live-streaming?



Laura Ingle
@lauraingle

Heading back to the law offices of John Ray to hear about what Ray has called “surprising new important evidence regarding the family members of #RexHeuermann” Ray is the NY attorney for Shannan Gilbert's family and victims in the #LISK case. See you on ⁦
@NewsNation
⁩ #gilgo


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[x_files]

My thought, he shaved away his sideburns because they didn’t fit under his hair net(s)!
Sorry if this was already posted.

aw, good point!

 

[x_files]

John Ray also showed up not long after the DA did to RH's house while LE were extracting things from the house last week.

He is not only Shannan Gilbert family's lawyer, but a lawyer for other victims of RH.

That said. John Ray made it clear Gilbert didn't get lost in a swamp and died. Her neck was broken BEFORE she was found in the swamp and had a hole drilled through her head

Gilgo Beach victim attorney denies police claims of 'tragic accident'

Shannan Gilbert's relatives hit out at officers for claiming her disappearance in Long Island in 2010 was not suspicious.

www.dailymail.co.uk

A HOLE drilled in her head/neck/hyoid bone?!!!
I hope they find everyone involved because that is disturbing. That's torture and I do not want anyone capable of that level of sadism walking the streets free.

 

[CuriousCricket]

I wonder how difficult and how much time it would take LE officers to verify info contained in the affidavits obtained by JR? 'Seems quite difficult but I don't really know.

The Swinger had the LE boyfriend, and the taxi driver had the dispatcher who ordered RH to get out of the taxi. As someone who has searched for and found people who did not want to be found, I can tell you, it's not that difficult.

 

[Just K]

Will Laura be live-streaming?



Laura Ingle
@lauraingle

Heading back to the law offices of John Ray to hear about what Ray has called “surprising new important evidence regarding the family members of #RexHeuermann” Ray is the NY attorney for Shannan Gilbert's family and victims in the #LISK case. See you on ⁦
@NewsNation
⁩ #gilgo


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Anyone know where we can watch J Ray’s presser, today?

 

[x_files]

There was a hole drilled in her hyoid bone. Just a helpful, minor correction. There's a lot of information at the link below about the second autopsy that was done on Shannan.

Family Attorney: New Autopsy Finds Shannan Gilbert's Death 'Consistent With Homicidal Strangulation'

New independent autopsy results found that the death of a New Jersey prostitute, whose body was discovered on Long Island near 10 other victims of a suspected serial killer, is "consistent with homicidal strangulation," the family's lawyer says.

www.cbsnews.com

Does anyone have any idea why someone would drill a hole into her hyoid bone besides absolute torture?

 

[x_files]

i don't think i am saying anything new here, but how this is all developing to be (somehow) darker and darker, i am finding myself increasingly bone-chilled by RH's zoning specialty. i'll explain

RH allegedly kept the victims for days and made a call to melissa’s sister,“I just killed your sister and I’m going to watch her body rot.” I believe he returned to the victims, especially the G4. imo he wrapped them in burlap to slow decomposition.

now for the zoning part, ocean parkway is extremely desolate at night. we know RH placed the bodies close together in a secluded spot (between wantagh pkwy and robert moses) so he could see headlights from a mile away in either direction. this would give him time with the bodies while watching for cars.

fyi also, someone found that a rare bird started nesting there, making the beach off-limits to people. these are the little things zoning experts know all about and why he was a subject matter expert. also the NYS DEC monitored piping plovers on that beach since 1998, making parts of it inaccessible.

I agree he returned to visit the bodies.

 

[dotr]

Does anyone have any idea why someone would drill a hole into her hyoid bone besides absolute torture?

To keep someone from being able to properly speak or scream? speculation, imo. rbbm

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