Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Deleted member 117884]

OMG, what in the world am I listening to?

 

[Megnut]

How do we know RH was using his daughter's accounts to access this material?

 

[Vaderman]

OMG, what in the world am I listening to?

That would be the sound of this attorney's shirt sleeve ripping from his massive reach today imo.

 

[Megnut]

Seems like this should be investigated but not like this.

 

[Ruminations]

Not a dumb question. @Megnut said it perfectly: Intrusive, character assassination, and wrong.

I thought I'd be disappointed tuning in. Not ticked off.

Adult characters made their own decisions. The worst of the lot was their legal representation.

The adult character in question is obviously a witness. Perhaps one I would feel a great deal of empathy for. This adult could very sympathetically perceived as working through the trauma of what was witnessed in art.

If she came public with that, she'd probably have made a fortune selling her work- a traumatized hero who helped convict a monster.

Instead, the adult has allowed a sleazy lawyer get a sleazy deal with a sleazy network. Possibly netting her less than the art would have netted her. And the adult by all appearances is NIT helping LE or engaging in therapy, etc. to help get her to a place where she can help LE.

I feel awful for this adult, and will jump right into whole-heartedly supporting her journey from victim to cooperative witness, if that's what she chooses.

But there was no character assassination. There was proof that a witness is not coming forward, but is taking a Peacock deal. And when that deal is signed, offering an opinion about it is fair game.

MOO

 

[Ursamajr]

Seems like this should be investigated but not like this.

Agreed. This is just going to send some people on a witch hunt.

 

[fred&edna]

VH wasn't unaware nor unknowing. I believe AE is the same.

jmo

 

[Megnut]

Calls himself the Gatekeeper for the facts and evidence.

 

[Ruminations]

Seems like this should be investigated but not like this.

"This should be investigated"

Agree. But, why is it like this?

It is like this because LE has forced it to be like this. They should have portrayed the family as cooperative witnesses from day one.

I think like this is better than not at all. But I wholeheartedly agree there are other ways. LE refused the other ways. And thankfully, John Ray stepped in with this unpleasant presentation.

MOO

 

[fred&edna]

VH has the same gore p**n, torture of females, etc interest because of genetics?? I don't think so. I'm not suggesting she participated... but I believe she was aware.

jmo

 

[Betty P]

funnily enough, i have done a lot post grad research into the furries. i am beyond fascinated with the subject as someone who couldn't be more on the outside of that. ill post more once i have my thoughts tighter


i have a LOT of thoughts on this press conference and the contents, and i am finding it really challenging to conflate that subculture into a monolith of depraved sickos. at it's core, it's self expression. being a furry in itself shouldn't be a morality issue. we can talk about the specific artwork but i don't agree with your assertion here, respectively.

According to the news reports from people in the community, most are harmless and just engaging in an unusual hobby. There are subgroups of that community who are into weird fetishes and others that are much worse. Just based on what the expert is saying and the articles I linked above. No morality is implied, with the exception of people doing wrong when they harm or kill innocent people.

 

[Megnut]

I didn't think of cannibalism today.

I don't want to think of cannibalism now.

But now I can't not think of cannibalism.

I would hate to be ANYONE within his orbit because right now I should be throwing up every meal I ever ate.

I am concerned about the family dynamic. I think of cases like the Turpins, abject abuse.... what was it like to grow up in the H household??????

JMO

 

[fred&edna]

Seems like this should be investigated but not like this.

I think LE should have already known. Maybe they do.

 

[Ruminations]

I haven't followed this case closely so just wondering, the lawyer speaking, is he a credible man?

Very.

He's a very credible person but an odd gadfly. So he has enemies.

MOO

 

[indicolite22]

Wasn't VH barely a teenager when the last known murder pinned to her father took place?

 

[Betty P]

VH has the same gore p**n, torture of females, etc interest because of genetics?? I don't think so. I'm not suggesting she participated... but I believe she was aware.

jmo

Expert is citing cases where family members did assist murdering parents. He says there's enough evidence so far that the behavior should be looked at closely.

The expert is using the German pronunciation of Rex's name - "Hoyer-mon". Source, I asked a German.

 

[Megnut]

I have wondered about RH's childhood, what he was exposed to. Abusive parent? Somehow messed up psyche from witnessing his mother maybe dating, after being widowed...

Now I am wondering about RH's children were exposed to.

Sickening thought.

JMO

 

[Ursamajr]

All John Ray's press conference has done is made me side eye my graphic novel collection and wonder if someone will ever be calling me a cannibal one day. The Killing Joke alone should land me in a padded room according to John Ray!
Also, I will be "walking amongst us" with my gothy black clothes later and just letting ya'll know, I don't plan on hurting anyone. I just need some oat milk. Don't judge me.

Anyone else pick up the irony of John Ray and his circus ringmaster attire (I dig it!) trying to hint we should be judging others on their clothing choices?

 

[Ruminations]

Furry to murderer is quite a jump.

Her artwork to witness regarding her fathers crimes is hardly a step.

This is important information.

MOO

 

[Megnut]

JR:

VH was home alone with the crime scene photo book on the table.

Conclusion: RH was not leading a double life. The family knew.

I like his second expert. Level headed.

"I think you'll agree what we see here is disturbing".

Jmo