Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[nhmemorymaker]

Is it known if he parked in the garage? It seems so small and with them being hoarders, I suspect it's packed full of stuff. His truck and jeep are not small either. There are photos of his vehicles parked on the street and driveway, and neighbors have reported the same. I do wonder how he got women into his home, unseen and unheard by the neighbors.
MOO

I have same questions?
Do we have some stated facts about activity in or about garage"?
Hoarder types rarely have a functional garage.

 

[Ruminations]

In the article linked above, it was noted by @Izzylizzy that Heuermann's wife's attorney stated that at 45 days after Rex's arrest, AE, VH and CS had not yet been interviewed by LE.

Exactly. But we know there was some conversation (it is what it is) and Asa voluntarily gave DNA. She had the right to insist on a court order.

It appears that the truth is Macedonia advised Asa to stop speaking voluntarily.

Then as part of his strategy to discredit LE, announced that LE hadn't spoken to Asa. He also used that twisted fact to imply Asa knows nothing.

MOO

 

[Ruminations]

Does anyone know how soon after the arrest Macedonia was hired or brought on? I just feel like many folks have known about RH for a very long time and it’s as if they have all been waiting for that day when as it were, “the other shoe would drop.” Did RH have incriminating evidence on any big wigs? It’s just seems a bit too convenient that Macedonia, with his links to Spota, to alleged bribery, drug possession, etc (mid-late 2000s,) would be on this case, possibly shutting down the cooperation of three key witness, almost from the time of RH’s arrest. Who contacted whom, first? Did AE call Macedonia or visa versa? Did RH suggest Macedonia or could his lawyer Michael Brown have suggested Macedonia? The answer to the questions could revel so much.

Macedonia said in an interview that he was retained the weekend after Rex was arrested. He was arrested Thursday evening (just leaving work at 8:30ish) and arraigned Friday. Over the weekend, according to Macedonia, he was retained.

It could be that the same people who interfered with solving LISK had unrelated interests in keeping out the Fed, etc., in addition to a "cultural" disinterest in stopping the crimes. They may have been neutral on Rex, if they knew who he was.

But there may be a more sinister connection. I can't help but ask myself if the fact that Rex had "film" on his blueprint list, and that several witnesses quoted Burke as asking for snuff films in a surprisingly conversational tone, plus Loeb's claims could be related.

If- and this is pure speculation- Burke was in the habit of requesting and getting snuff films from Rex- Burke is a murderer, too. (If Rex is guilty as alleged.)

MOO

 

[FromGermany1]

Yes, posters have described that covered rear compartment with the pass through on the Avalanche.

I am only confirming again, because I really do think this was quite strategic vehicle selection vehicle to do his "work".

Agree. For what did RH need an Avalanche, when he mostly took a train, sitting relaxed there with a beer, making notices on his Palm Pilot (?), and his wife picked him up at the train station on LI? The Avalanche certainly was one of his "work tools". MOO

 

[eishish]

Maybe photos are a problem because he would want access to them but they are such damning evidence that they have to be hidden where it is impossible for them to be accidently found or found by an actual search. If he just had them on a cellphone or digital camera/device, I would think they would be "pics" but they would still need to be hidden. Maybe his copier at the office could print "photos" for him. Maybe he wanted them printed to spread them out or make an album. I don't think they've found this cache, unless it's a secret until they are ready to charge him with more murders.
Rodney Alcala rented a storage locker under his own name, RH would know better. Others have hidden photos in vents (behind heating registers, etc.),in drop ceilings, and buried in a box. It's not my hard opinion that this is what RH's question mark/problem meant, I really don't know.

Can you imagine if he has any btk type photos...of himself!! Just the thought alone

 

[Betty P]

there's a picture at this link of the garage supposedly after they put the belongings back in ... no room for vehicles

Rex Heuermann’s family releases photos of ravaged home after cops wrecked house

Rex Heuermann’s family reveal the mess that was left behind after authorities tore through the house after two weeks of search warrants.

nypost.com

I think he took the victims in through the back basement entrance that goes directly down into his 'dungeon' - picture at the link below (assuming it was possible to enter the backyard from either side of the house)

NY cops end search of Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann’s home, family can move back in

Cops have pulled whatever evidence they could from the “very cluttered” Long Island property of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann.

nypost.com

Thanks, I was just getting ready to point this out. I'm not sure the outside "cellar door" entrance was the only one, but he likely used it some for convenience.

I still believe that, in at least some cases, he was able to lure the women into the house with the promise of a drink or drugs, etc. Recall Shannan went into the house at Oak Beach before becoming so frightened that she called 911.

 

[Not a Belle]

In the article linked above, it was noted by @Izzylizzy that Heuermann's wife's attorney stated that at 45 days after Rex's arrest, AE, VH and CS had not yet been interviewed by LE.

My apologies—I should have been more clear. I was referring to the assumption that they are “WAY behind on getting information.”

 

[CuriousCricket]

In the article linked above, it was noted by @Izzylizzy that Heuermann's wife's attorney stated that at 45 days after Rex's arrest, AE, VH and CS had not yet been interviewed by LE.

The latest bail application makes plain that VH was interviewed -- at least about the trip with her childhood friend when the family vacationed in Vermont. And IIRC, that family was also interviewed.

 

[OnTheCase40]

Is there a tip line still open for this case?

Check the gilgonews.com website. I think there is a submit a tip tab.

 

[Just K]

Macedonia said in an interview that he was retained the weekend after Rex was arrested. He was arrested Thursday evening (just leaving work at 8:30ish) and arraigned Friday. Over the weekend, according to Macedonia, he was retained.

It could be that the same people who interfered with solving LISK had unrelated interests in keeping out the Fed, etc., in addition to a "cultural" disinterest in stopping the crimes. They may have been neutral on Rex, if they knew who he was.

But there may be a more sinister connection. I can't help but ask myself if the fact that Rex had "film" on his blueprint list, and that several witnesses quoted Burke as asking for snuff films in a surprisingly conversational tone, plus Loeb's claims could be related.

If- and this is pure speculation- Burke was in the habit of requesting and getting snuff films from Rex- Burke is a murderer, too. (If Rex is guilty as alleged.)

MOO

This is were my thoughts have been going.

 

[wcasewatch]

RE: Victims going into the house.

I think people are overestimating the perceptiveness of neighbors. When is the last time you noticed a neighbor carrying groceries? Personally speaking, if I saw a woman walking into a house late at night, I wouldn't put too much pass on it. My first assumption would be that they are a friend or relative. The victims were all sex workers. Sex workers understand that they need to be discreet. They likely visited the homes of married men many times in the past. There have been many serial killers who murdered sex workers inside their homes, and in all of those cases, the victim willingly went back with them under the pretense that it was just an ordinary outcall. I think that performing the "takedown" outside of the residence is even riskier from his perspective.

 

[eishish]

BBM:

IMO:
Macedonio was trying to garner sympathy for Asa.
Along with her health issues, no money because the breadwinner is gone and then with the condition LE left the hell hole in.

Is sad tho all people at firm, incl daughter lost jobs tho, right? All the clients scrambling to find new Architect. The family members are having to retain $$$ lawyers. I have many opinions on family, but as a whole, it is so tragic in so many ways. Cannot wait for 50cent doc to air. So little info put out.

 

[eishish]

After your first post about Macedonia’s pro RH comments on Court TV, I went back and did the research on his disbarment. It seems, in December 2008, he pleaded guilty to felony possession of cocaine -after Spota had been wiretapping him re: bribery. The date of his arrest (raid 1/23/2008) for cocaine. In December of 2008 he is officially disbarred. In 2012, he is reinstated to the bar.
The interesting part of all of this is why did Spota target Macedonia in early 2008 and then, in 2012, assist in his reduced charge which led to his reinstatement. Was this an example of the classic carrot and the stick? How did it benefit Spota who by 2012 was in the midst of “solving” the Gilgo Beach Murders, assisting in the promotion of “Jimmy” Burke to head up the SC police and Burke’s ultimate interference in allowing State and Federal assistance on the case?

The Curious Case of Robert Macedonio

In December 2008, veteran criminal defense attorney Robert Macedonio appeared in a Suffolk County courtroom, this time as a defendant. “It’s embarrassing for me to be standing here,” Macedonio told…

matthewdoig.com

In re Matter of Macedonio, 66 A.D.3d 211 | Casetext Search + Citator

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Grievance Committee for Tenth Judicial Dist. v. Macedonio (In re Macedonio), 103 A.D.3d 154 | Casetext Search + Citator

Read Grievance Committee for Tenth Judicial Dist. v. Macedonio (In re Macedonio), 103 A.D.3d 154, see flags on bad law, and search Casetext’s comprehensive legal database

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Believe macedonia also reps 50 or his co. So much interweaving on this case. Actually afraid to comment often. A very suspect case all around

 

[Ruminations]

This is the Sun. But it's not bad

Disgraced Gilgo Beach police chief who botched Heuermann probe 'giggled watching snuff film', says LISK victim's lawyer
Disgraced Gilgo Beach police chief James Burke 'giggled watching snuff film'

 

[eishish]

This is the Sun. But it's not bad

Disgraced Gilgo Beach police chief who botched Heuermann probe 'giggled watching snuff film', says LISK victim's lawyer
Disgraced Gilgo Beach police chief James Burke 'giggled watching snuff

Macedonia said in an interview that he was retained the weekend after Rex was arrested. He was arrested Thursday evening (just leaving work at 8:30ish) and arraigned Friday. Over the weekend, according to Macedonia, he was retained.

It could be that the same people who interfered with solving LISK had unrelated interests in keeping out the Fed, etc., in addition to a "cultural" disinterest in stopping the crimes. They may have been neutral on Rex, if they knew who he was.

But there may be a more sinister connection. I can't help but ask myself if the fact that Rex had "film" on his blueprint list, and that several witnesses quoted Burke as asking for snuff films in a surprisingly conversational tone, plus Loeb's claims could be related.

If- and this is pure speculation- Burke was in the habit of requesting and getting snuff films from Rex- Burke is a murderer, too. (If Rex is guilty as alleged.)

MOO

Uh, wow. Well certainly wld give creedence to getting rid of fbi. So much to uncover, ty

 

[fred&edna]

MOO The news is interested in shocking, catchy headlines, the better for clicks. likes and upvotes. Why did they choose that headline instead of the other part of the quote from that article? Where they implying something or were they just showing the wife's resignation and reluctant acceptance of the situation?

What was made public was an expression she is reported as saying on the day RH was arrested and her home was searched, To be clear, the wife is being quoted by Harrison and Harrison is being quoted by the news. The wife is not being directly quoted by the news. Harrison said:

"When we told the wife, she was shocked, she was embarrassed. But there was a point where we showed her certain pictures and she said, ‘OK, it is what it is.'"

It did not say it was whenever the family was shown evidence against RH (for the murders). We don't know for a fact what pictures were shown to her. I don't think at that point they would be showing her the actual physical evidence, but did it prove to her that he was involved with SW's.

Gilgo Beach suspect's wife allegedly told cops: 'Ok, it is what it is'

Suffolk County Police Commissioner Rodney Harrison recalled the moments after Rex Heuermann's arrest, including what he did -- and didn't -- say to police.

www.fox5ny.com

The point I was making was in reply to OP... the news report video shows the interview and LE (via Harrison) did, in fact, share information about talking to family members.

I agree with you about eye-catching and/or outright shocking headlines all news agencies love to use. That just wasn't my point.

jmo

 

[eishish]

This is the Sun. But it's not bad

Disgraced Gilgo Beach police chief who botched Heuermann probe 'giggled watching snuff film', says LISK victim's lawyer
Disgraced Gilgo Beach police chief James Burke 'giggled watching snuff film'

Omg, this was way back when he was arrested. No word on it as far as i can see. Wow. If connected, the 2 w snuff work, this wld be off the charts crazy

 

[eishish]

A serial killer named Maury Travis taped his victims. Having said that, I highly doubt that Burke was looking at snuff tapes. So far, there has been zero evidence of this.

Ty, did not know. Yes, no evidence, just media

 

[Izzylizzy]

Does anyone know how soon after the arrest Macedonia was hired or brought on? I just feel like many folks have known about RH for a very long time and it’s as if they have all been waiting for that day when as it were, “the other shoe would drop.” Did RH have incriminating evidence on any big wigs? It’s just seems a bit too convenient that Macedonia, with his links to Spota, to alleged bribery, drug possession, etc (mid-late 2000s,) would be on this case, possibly shutting down the cooperation of three key witnesses, almost from the time of RH’s arrest. Who contacted whom, first? Did AE call Macedonia or visa versa? Did RH suggest Macedonia or could his lawyer Michael Brown have suggested Macedonia? The answer to the questions could revel so much.

Macedonia said in an interview that he was retained the weekend after Rex was arrested. He was arrested Thursday evening (just leaving work at 8:30ish) and arraigned Friday. Over the weekend, according to Macedonia, he was retained.

It could be that the same people who interfered with solving LISK had unrelated interests in keeping out the Fed, etc., in addition to a "cultural" disinterest in stopping the crimes. They may have been neutral on Rex, if they knew who he was.

But there may be a more sinister connection. I can't help but ask myself if the fact that Rex had "film" on his blueprint list, and that several witnesses quoted Burke as asking for snuff films in a surprisingly conversational tone, plus Loeb's claims could be related.

If- and this is pure speculation- Burke was in the habit of requesting and getting snuff films from Rex- Burke is a murderer, too. (If Rex is guilty as alleged.)

MOO

Brown was already representing RH on July 14,2023 so it very well could have been him who orchestrated the Macedonio/Asa connection over that weekend.


"Heuermann, who was arrested near his New York City office last Thursday, was assigned to Brown, a criminal defense attorney based out of Suffolk County. Brown said he first met with Heuermann at the arraignment on Friday after his arrest."

Suspected Gilgo Beach killer appeared 'traumatized' after arrest: Defense attorney

Rex Heuermann's defense attorney spoke exclusively with ABC News on Tuesday in front of the Suffolk County courthouse.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Forest_Wood]

I think that picture was a random surreptitious social media snap by someone who rudely posted something about taking Rex's appearance as an object lesson about eating right and exercising.

How bizarre. Years later, Rex was arrested, and the person was like, that's the guy on the train!

MOO

Of all the people the guy could have taken on the train to illustrate his point, he zooms in on a serial killer. It almost looks like RH is sleeping in that pic, with eyes squinted or closed, although he's got the pen in his hand and the beer in the other. Maybe that's why he was concerned about photos? under problems. He had experiences with people photographing him surreptitiously.
MOO.