• #14,421
Same here, I've also checked for missing individuals dob, it's not always available. If RH is a Cottingham follower, Cottingham supposedly confessed (don't know that it's believed) to the murder of Jeanette DePalma. But regardless of the Cottingham factor, Jeannette DePalma's was a highly publicized case when it occurred. She was reported missing Aug 7, 1972. She was murdered in Springfield Township, NJ. I've located no dob for a murder victim or missing individual with 08/06/1972. Have wondered if the entire 080672 sequence could be a reference to a postal code, a phone number, something with an address. I've wondered if the numbers are something of a mix with the Aug 6 referring to the date of the murder and the "72" something completely different, maybe a route/highway/interstate or address related number. Have wondered if it's a relative of RH's dob. Or maybe the date of a relative's death. RH would be about 9 yo in 1972

08067 is a postal code in NJ, and it's in a very rural area with desolate pockets. Pretty sure the Delaware River ends in that postal code.

So far, my best guess is the 080672 is a mix. Maybe the August 6 is date of murder, the "72" could be the year of victim's birth, something related to an address, no way to know. I'd wonder if the 72 might not reference a route or highway exit number.
Had an odd thought….. and not disagreeing or indicating about whether that ‘080672’ might be a date. And if dates are in consideration, the European Union (EU) and other regions often use a day / month / year format. (As contrasted with typical US month / day / year convention.) MOO
 
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I would be very surprised if the police haven't done a thorough inspection of every aspect of this guy's life.
I'm not sure they've had time to complete that process yet??
 
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Had an odd thought….. and not disagreeing or indicating about whether that ‘080672’ might be a date. And if dates are in consideration, the European Union (EU) and other regions often use a day / month / year format. (As contrasted with typical US month / day / year convention.) MOO
Totally agreed, this 080672-- it could be anything. It certainly looks to me like a dob. And yeah, he might be doing the UK format Here's another thing, though.

He was using this as a dob for himself. Now, it may be a victim's dob, maybe a Jane or John Doe without a report where we don't know the dob, maybe someone missing, unreported, and her remains are undiscovered. But it could also be a date of victim death. To be honest, I'd think that's just as likely. And if that's the case, the 08 and 06 would be the date of death, but again, he is using this as his own dob. If he killed the victim on August 6, 2009, for example, he can't list "09" as a believable year of birth for himself. So I'm also kind of staying alert to victims with date of death or disappearance near/around August 6 period. The '72 may just have been an accommodation of his "need" at the time for a believable lie on his dob.
 
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Totally agreed, this 080672-- it could be anything. It certainly looks to me like a dob. And yeah, he might be doing the UK format Here's another thing, though.

He was using this as a dob for himself. Now, it may be a victim's dob, maybe a Jane or John Doe without a report where we don't know the dob, maybe someone missing, unreported, and her remains are undiscovered. But it could also be a date of victim death. To be honest, I'd think that's just as likely. And if that's the case, the 08 and 06 would be the date of death, but again, he is using this as his own dob. If he killed the victim on August 6, 2009, for example, he can't list "09" as a believable year of birth for himself. So I'm also kind of staying alert to victims with date of death or disappearance near/around August 6 period. The '72 may just have been an accommodation of his "need" at the time for a believable lie on his dob.
When did his father pass? TIA
 
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Mary Murphy on Andre Isaac- Sugar Bear and what she was told last week by one of her LE connections that leads her to believe that SB is part of Gilgo-Heuerman.
I don't know if she always believed the connection and it was just confirmed for her, she says that she has written about him.

@ 40:50 Mary begins about SB.
Stay with the conversation,


 
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Totally agreed, this 080672-- it could be anything. It certainly looks to me like a dob. And yeah, he might be doing the UK format Here's another thing, though.

He was using this as a dob for himself. Now, it may be a victim's dob, maybe a Jane or John Doe without a report where we don't know the dob, maybe someone missing, unreported, and her remains are undiscovered. But it could also be a date of victim death. To be honest, I'd think that's just as likely. And if that's the case, the 08 and 06 would be the date of death, but again, he is using this as his own dob. If he killed the victim on August 6, 2009, for example, he can't list "09" as a believable year of birth for himself. So I'm also kind of staying alert to victims with date of death or disappearance near/around August 6 period. The '72 may just have been an accommodation of his "need" at the time for a believable lie on his dob.
I can easily imagine that his alter ego is Thomas Hawk and, as you point out, was “born” on Aug 6, 1972. RH would have been around 8yo. But what in the world happened to spawn Thomas Hawk?

It looks like Laverne Moye’s body (discarded by Cottingham) was discovered not too far from Massapequa in Rockville Center, by an 11 yo boy:

“Approximately three months later, on July 20, 1972, at approximately 12:15 p.m., the body of Laverne Moye was found in the same area as the body of Mary Beth Heinz. An 11-year-old boy discovered the woman in the creek along Maine Avenue. Moye, a 23-year-old woman from St. Albans, Queens, was strangled to the death. The young woman was a mother to two children and was separated from her husband.”


Was RH maybe at summer camp with boys who knew the young discoverer?
 
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Judge Mazzei can let cameras into the courtroom during a trial if he wants to.


Mary Murphy is not giving up on a Tina Foglia-Heuermann connection.
RH also would have been 19 at the time.
They now have RH's DNA which LE did not have in 2017.
She has no indications from LE that they're connected but knows Suffolk LE is keeping everything close to the chest.


Mary brings up TF after speaking about SB.

 
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Mary Murphy on Andre Isaac- Sugar Bear and what she was told last week by one of her LE connections that leads her to believe that SB is part of Gilgo-Heuerman.
I don't know if she always believed the connection and it was just confirmed for her, she says that she has written about him.

@ 40:50 Mary begins about SB.
Stay with the conversation,


Mary Murphy has such an amazing recall of details. I'm in awe.

She said her sources told her the exact date authorities had planned to arrest Rex Heuermann. The arrest was bumped up a few days from a Monday to a Thursday. She said the reason was fear of leaks.

She recalled the date and place and forensic information about Tina Foglia. She recalled that Rex was the same age as Tina. She rattled off the roads that could be driven to Ocean Parkway. She said male DNA was found on Tina. She said that she continues to consider a Rex connection to Tina, although her sources haven't particularly hinted that there is one.

MOO
 
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I can easily imagine that his alter ego is Thomas Hawk and, as you point out, was “born” on Aug 6, 1972. RH would have been around 8yo. But what in the world happened to spawn Thomas Hawk?

It looks like Laverne Moye’s body (discarded by Cottingham) was discovered not too far from Massapequa in Rockville Center, by an 11 yo boy:

“Approximately three months later, on July 20, 1972, at approximately 12:15 p.m., the body of Laverne Moye was found in the same area as the body of Mary Beth Heinz. An 11-year-old boy discovered the woman in the creek along Maine Avenue. Moye, a 23-year-old woman from St. Albans, Queens, was strangled to the death. The young woman was a mother to two children and was separated from her husband.”


Was RH maybe at summer camp with boys who knew the young discoverer?

I think Rex was 11 when his father died. That's another commonality about their experiences---exposure to death at 11.

MOO
 
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I think Rex was 11 when his father died. That's another commonality about their experiences---exposure to death at 11.

MOO
I’ve read that he was 12 when his father died but Rex was born in Sept of 63. So, he was 11 years and about 10 months old when his father died on November 29, 1975. Thanksgiving was 11/27/1975. It would be very interesting to know the COD or the circumstances around his death but there are no public details and no public obituary.

I suspect 11 year old Rex was exposed not only to death but to other trauma and possibly disturbing violent and/or sexual images.
 
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Am I the only one who never noticed that sturdy frame that could be built with 6x6's?

Pic on the right.

It's very disturbing, after the most recent charge/bail documents.


If you scroll down the text, you can find the whole picture, and the eerie frame in the backyard is not blocked by the "play" button.

MOO
This structure is indeed very odd.
RH's children are 26 yo and 33 yo. This structure looks much newer.
Good observation.

JMO
 
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Totally agreed, this 080672-- it could be anything. It certainly looks to me like a dob. And yeah, he might be doing the UK format Here's another thing, though.

He was using this as a dob for himself. Now, it may be a victim's dob, maybe a Jane or John Doe without a report where we don't know the dob, maybe someone missing, unreported, and her remains are undiscovered. But it could also be a date of victim death. To be honest, I'd think that's just as likely. And if that's the case, the 08 and 06 would be the date of death, but again, he is using this as his own dob. If he killed the victim on August 6, 2009, for example, he can't list "09" as a believable year of birth for himself. So I'm also kind of staying alert to victims with date of death or disappearance near/around August 6 period. The '72 may just have been an accommodation of his "need" at the time for a believable lie on his dob.
Could it be coordinates or partial coordinates? I can't remember how they're written or how many digits.
 
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DBM
 
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Heckler koch knife hk2002, there is a glock reference, also id'd was a heckler koch 9mm handgun along with this ruger 8672! It fits in with hunter, hit, Andy, sandbaggers aka misleaders. All relates to him/ his interests. Great id imo, moo
I still think its the gun, the ruger. Ibm got the first patent for "floppy disks" that year. Probably in his business, quite important. Searches give multiple dates inc the 08/06
 
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Am I the only one who never noticed that sturdy frame that could be built with 6x6's?

Pic on the right.

It's very disturbing, after the most recent charge/bail documents.


If you scroll down the text, you can find the whole picture, and the eerie frame in the backyard is not blocked by the "play" button.

MOO
In that picture, there appears to be an air conditioner, a window or a through the wall type. It's at an odd height. I wonder where In the house that leads?
 
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● #080672 color description : Very dark blue.
 
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Totally agreed, this 080672-- it could be anything. It certainly looks to me like a dob. And yeah, he might be doing the UK format Here's another thing, though.

He was using this as a dob for himself. Now, it may be a victim's dob, maybe a Jane or John Doe without a report where we don't know the dob, maybe someone missing, unreported, and her remains are undiscovered. But it could also be a date of victim death. To be honest, I'd think that's just as likely. And if that's the case, the 08 and 06 would be the date of death, but again, he is using this as his own dob. If he killed the victim on August 6, 2009, for example, he can't list "09" as a believable year of birth for himself. So I'm also kind of staying alert to victims with date of death or disappearance near/around August 6 period. The '72 may just have been an accommodation of his "need" at the time for a believable lie on his dob.

I have wondered if it is the date of his first offense.
Mother's always remember dates their babies are born. Especially their "first ". Special codes.

I could see rex using this as his special code...for his first kill.
 
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1982: "On July 26, Patricia Shea, a 40-year-old physician's assistant from Rockaway, Queens, was found strangled in Prospect Park in Brooklyn. The police said that Miss Shea had been killed elsewhere and her fully clothed body dumped in the park." WOMAN, KILLED BY STRANGLING, FOUND OFF PIER (Published 1982)
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This victim was a very girlish looking 40s. She'd been out that day with a platonic male friend and went to help a stroke patient later in the evening. She went to help this person and was never seen alive again. "...a jogger in Prospect Park saw Pat’s body in the bushes just off of Center Drive on the Windsor Terrace side. There was little effort made to hide her body. Detectives note that she was hog-tied, including her neck. Her lower body was in a 'brown sack.' Pat had been strangled with the thin nylon chord that was tied around her whole body, and a man’s shirt was found next to her." That would have been 7/26/82

So there were several murders around this time, some in the area refer to this killer as Jack the Strangler, and he's never been caught. Associated with: Sheryl Guida, 22, found earlier than Patricia Shea, March 18 near Coney Island, she was a sex worker, also strangled; VA tourist Rita Nixon, 31, found near Chinatown strangled with electrical cord, wrapped in blanket, found July 15; Gloria DeLeon, 32 found near Manhattan Bridge where Rita Nixon had been found, she was also a sex worker, found July 19; unidentified woman found floating off 69th St. Pier, also strangled, she was found shortly after Patricia Shea. "The woman had been beaten about the head and body, according to a medical examiner's report, and there were ligature marks on her ankles, indicating that her feet had also been bound."

So someone actually sent a letter to the police in 2021 re: Patricia Shea's murder. Here's the letter:
Murdered: Patricia Shea | New York, NY | Uncovered

I absolutely think RH may have had a hand in this. The letter's RH all over. The hogtie aspect. The brown cloth (burlap like?) aspect. The date Patricia Shea's body was found was 07261982
July 26 1982
07261982
Compare that to 080672 (thawk) All the numbers are there. There's an extra "2" in PS's date. So maybe RH committed two of these murders, or maybe he's referencing the idea that two were SWs.

It's jmo, but I'd swear I see the hand of RH in that. Whoever sent that letter sent it nearly three decades after Patricia Shea's murder.

 
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1982: "On July 26, Patricia Shea, a 40-year-old physician's assistant from Rockaway, Queens, was found strangled in Prospect Park in Brooklyn. The police said that Miss Shea had been killed elsewhere and her fully clothed body dumped in the park." WOMAN, KILLED BY STRANGLING, FOUND OFF PIER (Published 1982)
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This victim was a very girlish looking 40s. She'd been out that day with a platonic male friend and went to help a stroke patient later in the evening. She went to help this person and was never seen alive again. "...a jogger in Prospect Park saw Pat’s body in the bushes just off of Center Drive on the Windsor Terrace side. There was little effort made to hide her body. Detectives note that she was hog-tied, including her neck. Her lower body was in a 'brown sack.' Pat had been strangled with the thin nylon chord that was tied around her whole body, and a man’s shirt was found next to her." That would have been 7/26/82

So there were several murders around this time, some in the area refer to this killer as Jack the Strangler, and he's never been caught. Associated with: Sheryl Guida, 22, found earlier than Patricia Shea, March 18 near Coney Island, she was a sex worker, also strangled; VA tourist Rita Nixon, 31, found near Chinatown strangled with electrical cord, wrapped in blanket, found July 15; Gloria DeLeon, 32 found near Manhattan Bridge where Rita Nixon had been found, she was also a sex worker, found July 19; unidentified woman found floating off 69th St. Pier, also strangled, she was found shortly after Patricia Shea. "The woman had been beaten about the head and body, according to a medical examiner's report, and there were ligature marks on her ankles, indicating that her feet had also been bound."

So someone actually sent a letter to the police in 2021 re: Patricia Shea's murder. Here's the letter:
Murdered: Patricia Shea | New York, NY | Uncovered

I absolutely think RH may have had a hand in this. The letter's RH all over. The hogtie aspect. The brown cloth (burlap like?) aspect. The date Patricia Shea's body was found was 07261982
July 26 1982
07261982
Compare that to 080672 (thawk) All the numbers are there. There's an extra "2" in PS's date. So maybe RH committed two of these murders, or maybe he's referencing the idea that two were SWs.

It's jmo, but I'd swear I see the hand of RH in that. Whoever sent that letter sent it nearly three decades after Patricia Shea's murder.

The letter writer gave the name of a NY cop as her killer so any follow-up from LE about this guy?
It's been 3 yrs since the letter was sent.
 

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