Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Warwick7]

I just wish the family attorney didn't destroy the family's reputation. The entire neighborhood was sending Asa support and gifts and offering help with the house until Macedonia stepped in.

MOO

Oh I remember....
I too sent money....

 

[Ruminations]

I try to put myself in her shoes. Being shell shocked over the horrific allegations against someone you love, you don’t know who to trust and have no money and, perhaps, wherewithal to find someone to help you. One would probably accept help from the first to offer it.

Ah... back to the question:

Who sent her attorneys? Who paid for them? And who benefitted (aside from the attorneys themselves with their fat Peacock paycheck, earned by portraying Asa badly?)

Really: Who sent those attorneys?

MOO

 

[wildblue]

Ah... back to the question:

Who sent her attorneys? Who paid for them? And who benefitted (aside from the attorneys themselves with their fat Peacock paycheck, earned by portraying Asa badly?)

Really: Who sent those attorneys?

MOO

It seems as though when the family signed a documentary deal, that the lawyer was able to sign as well for his compensation. I hate the Post but the NY Times article about the deal is behind a paywall. So the attorney profited, NBC profited and the family received some funds to exist on as they said his ex wife and daughter weren’t able to get employment for a variety of factors.

Accused Gilgo Beach killer Rex Heuermann’s family to receive $1M for documentary: report

Asa Ellerup and her adult children will reportedly receive $1 million for participating in an upcoming NBC documentary about the Gilgo Beach murders.

nypost.com

 

[Forest_Wood]

Yes, it was the lady who signed an affidavit and was interviewed by JR and on tv about her experience. She was worried that something bad happened to Karen.

Is that how she died? The public doesn't know and it needs to come out. That's why I'm questioning Tierney's language, saying Rex "agreed to take responsibility" for Karen's death. Does that mean her case is closed? Are the investigative files and details of Rex's "confessions" available to the public?

I hope I'm wrong, but I have a feeling it will be difficult for anyone to get access to that information.

From the MSN article. MSN

Heuermann was not charged with Vergata’s murder on Wednesday, instead adding her to his allocution as the eighth victim. The DA stated Vergata’s murder is covered by his admission and guilty plea to the seven other murders.

“There will be no further prosecutions for these eight victims,” said Heuermann’s attorney Mike Brown.

Because Karen Vergata was lumped in with the others, it looks like he can't be prosecuted for anything else related to her. I wonder if he wanted her included because he knew there was a witness (Lorraine) who could pinpoint KV being at his home<Modsnip>MOO

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MOO

 

[Forest_Wood]

I think you're right.

Also, by RH admitting to KV's murder and closing the case, there won't be anymore work on it.

Case closed - officially. I will probably always wonder.

ETA: I thought the witness recalled it being around Valentine's Day? This MSN
From this, RH supposedly met her in April 1996 . . . . hmmmmm

I'm not sure if the witness said that or if that was the last day her family heard from her. I recall the witness said there was still a Christmas tree up in the home.
MOO

 

[wildblue]

From the MSN article. MSN

Heuermann was not charged with Vergata’s murder on Wednesday, instead adding her to his allocution as the eighth victim. The DA stated Vergata’s murder is covered by his admission and guilty plea to the seven other murders.

“There will be no further prosecutions for these eight victims,” said Heuermann’s attorney Mike Brown.

Because Karen Vergata was lumped in with the others, it looks like he can't be prosecuted for anything else related to her. I wonder if he wanted her included because he knew there was a witness (Lorraine) who could pinpoint KV being at his home <ModSnip> MOO

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There is no proof to these allegations and the sources are questionable. Only Victoria has a smile and it may be because she is relieved this process is ending or perhaps a cameraman said something funny. Paparazzi are know to say things to get a certain response. Some people also laugh in bad situations due to stress. You can’t speculate based on nothing but a random photo.

 

[Luna20]

Is that all Rex said today? ‘Yes your Honor’

 

[Forest_Wood]

She may not have the funds for an expensive defamation suit, she may not want to be attacked anymore by a lawyer who has no qualms about insinuating things for which he has no proof, she may not be litigious, she may want, now past her father’s admission of guilt, just to try to heal from finding out that her own father did such despicable crimes. I can think of many reasons but somewhat understand, from watching docs on the children of murderers, that it can be a long, hard process to ever come to grips with such a terrible thing, filled with mixed emotions of anger, guilt, sorrow. It may just be too much for her right now.

<Modsnip- personalizing> She has a mind and she has a lawyer. As for the funds, she's sitting on a gold mine apparently. I'd love for her to try to sue him and then everything would need to be divulged. It won't happen though IMO.
MOO

 

[Luna20]

From the MSN article. MSN

Heuermann was not charged with Vergata’s murder on Wednesday, instead adding her to his allocution as the eighth victim. The DA stated Vergata’s murder is covered by his admission and guilty plea to the seven other murders.

“There will be no further prosecutions for these eight victims,” said Heuermann’s attorney Mike Brown.

Because Karen Vergata was lumped in with the others, it looks like he can't be prosecuted for anything else related to her. I wonder if he wanted her included because he knew there was a witness (Lorraine) who could pinpoint KV being at his home <modsnip>MOO

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I didn’t see that but if it’s real, that is not a good posture to portray for the victims.

 

[Vaderman]

Is that all Rex said today? ‘Yes your Honor’

He also explained how he murdered each woman:

In 20 Minutes, Gilgo Beach Killer Admits to Murdering 8 Women

As he pleaded guilty on Wednesday, Rex Heuermann gave the same one-word answer each time he was asked how he killed one of his victims.

www.nytimes.com

“Strangulation,” Mr. Heuermann, 62, said in the same matter-of-fact way.

 

[wildblue]

From the MSN article. MSN

Heuermann was not charged with Vergata’s murder on Wednesday, instead adding her to his allocution as the eighth victim. The DA stated Vergata’s murder is covered by his admission and guilty plea to the seven other murders.

“There will be no further prosecutions for these eight victims,” said Heuermann’s attorney Mike Brown.

Because Karen Vergata was lumped in with the others, it looks like he can't be prosecuted for anything else related to her. I wonder if he wanted her included because he knew there was a witness (Lorraine) who could pinpoint KV being at his home <modsnip> MOO

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Only Victoria has a smile. May be that she was relieved this part of the process is ending, may be that a cameraman said something funny. Paparazzi have been known to to say things to elicit a certain response. Some people laugh in bad situations due to stress. It’s best not to speculate as a result of one photo.

 

[Forest_Wood]

DBM-already addressed

 

[wildblue]

That's precisely what you are doing.

In reply to your statement, i gave a few examples of what might have happened. You said it was disgusting, not knowing why she had a smile. <modsnip>

 

[wildblue]

<Modsnip- personalizing> She has a mind and she has a lawyer. As for the funds, she's sitting on a gold mine apparently. I'd love for her to try to sue him and then everything would need to be divulged. It won't happen though IMO.

MOO She has a mind and she has a lawyer. As for the funds, she's sitting on a gold mine apparently. I'd love for her to try to sue him and then everything would need to be divulged. It won't happen though IMO.
MOO

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I am equally upset with such behavior against Heuermann’s family as I am with some of the horrible online accusations that have been made against the families of the murder victims. If the authorities say that they have investigated and have evidence, that’s a different matter but no one in his family has been accused by anyone other than a lawyer representing a family that the police say has no ties to Heuermann and random people with no ties to said authorities. Speculation is harmful to all involved.

 

[Luna20]

He also explained how he murdered each woman:

In 20 Minutes, Gilgo Beach Killer Admits to Murdering 8 Women

As he pleaded guilty on Wednesday, Rex Heuermann gave the same one-word answer each time he was asked how he killed one of his victims.

www.nytimes.com

“Strangulation,” Mr. Heuermann, 62, said in the same matter-of-fact way.

Thank you. It’s paywalled, is there another source?

 

[Warwick7]

From the MSN article. MSN

Heuermann was not charged with Vergata’s murder on Wednesday, instead adding her to his allocution as the eighth victim. The DA stated Vergata’s murder is covered by his admission and guilty plea to the seven other murders.

“There will be no further prosecutions for these eight victims,” said Heuermann’s attorney Mike Brown.

Because Karen Vergata was lumped in with the others, it looks like he can't be prosecuted for anything else related to her. I wonder if he wanted her included because he knew there was a witness (Lorraine) who could pinpoint KV being at his home
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BBM
Yes, I was thinking about this earlier. This makes total sense to me. Lorraine signed an affidavit stating AH was there, met her and talked with her. That affidavit was disturbing to read.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Really? I wonder why! Is that considered legal aid? He could surely afford an attorney when he was arrested.
MOO

The day after RH was arrested, Friday July 14, 2023 he appeared before the judge (Massei?) and he was appointed Michael Brown.

Suffolk18B - Assigned Counsel Defender Plan - Suffolk County NY

www.suffolk18b.org

 

[Betty P]

Ah... back to the question:

Who sent her attorneys? Who paid for them? And who benefitted (aside from the attorneys themselves with their fat Peacock paycheck, earned by portraying Asa badly?)

Really: Who sent those attorneys?

MOO

Yes, that really should be made public. In a way, it’s incumbent on the governor of New York to make sure Suffolk County is being open and accountable for everything related to this case.

It’s not the typical white collar crime or DUI by a wealthy citizen that gets swept under the rug. This is serial killer who preyed on women in that community for at least 2 decades. Come on.

The finagling of the Karen Vergata murder case might also have been to avoid revealing the identity of the NYC detective who was allegedly there that night. Not that he was involved but maybe LE protecting each other. IDK, but it’s odd.

 

[Betty P]

BBM
Yes, I was thinking about this earlier. This makes total sense to me. Lorraine signed an affidavit stating AH was there, met her and talked with her. That affidavit was disturbing to read.

Yes. Now it may come up in a civil trial.

 

[wildblue]

Yes, that really should be made public. In a way, it’s incumbent on the governor of New York to make sure Suffolk County is being open and accountable for everything related to this case.

It’s not the typical white collar crime or DUI by a wealthy citizen that gets swept under the rug. This is serial killer who preyed on women in that community for at least 2 decades. Come on.

The finagling of the Karen Vergata murder case might also have been to avoid revealing the identity of the NYC detective who was allegedly there that night. Not that he was involved but maybe LE protecting each other. IDK, but it’s odd.

The attorney deal with Peacock/NBC is public. I posted a link previously.