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Exactly @Ruminations ….. and agree entirely. From what I have seen in following this case over the years, I will believe much more from former investigator Rodney Harrison and John Ray than I would from many of the others.

I also hope that things are being carefully and methodically looked at now. And not done so in a rush. Will be interesting to see what happens when RH DNA and other forensic profiles make the databases. IANAL MOO
BBM
There is alot more to come from all of this. This is just the tip of the iceberg. The clincher to capturing RH was the removal of James Burke and someone else, I cant think of his name. Burke was criticized for stalling the Gilgo investigation years before RH's capture.

February 2022 the newly appointed County Police Commissioner Rodney Harrison formed a special task force to investigate the Gilgo Beach murders.
The Timeline: Within six weeks of this new task force being formed and starting a "fresh look" at the evidence, investigators identified Rex Heuermann as a suspect in March 2022. Bam!!
 
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Warwick7.....theres alot more to come...I agree....I think the summer is going to bring evidence and info out from the shadows....I'm waiting for June and sentencing day
 
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Warwick7.....theres alot more to come...I agree....I think the summer is going to bring evidence and info out from the shadows....I'm waiting for June and sentencing day
YES. And with CODIS and others like @othram there could be ALOT more to come.
 
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Exactly @Ruminations ….. and agree entirely. From what I have seen in following this case over the years, I will believe much more from former investigator Rodney Harrison and John Ray than I would from many of the others.

I also hope that things are being carefully and methodically looked at now. And not done so in a rush. Will be interesting to see what happens when RH DNA and other forensic profiles make the databases. IANAL MOO
There is one reassurance- the cooperation Rex has promised is with the FBI. Hopefully, the FBI can follow its leads and facts, and not be compelled to look into what Suffolk County wants looked at, only.

IANAL either, and don't really understand what that the cooperation agreement means or entails.

MOO
 
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Apr 9, 2026

"The decades-long search for answers in the Gilgo Beach serial killer case may finally be over.Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney joins us after Rex Heuermann pleaded guilty to murdering seven women and admitted to killing an eighth on Long Island. Tierney breaks down how the plea deal came together, the evidence that helped crack the case and what comes next'



Tierney didn't think Rex committed these murders for sexual reasons? Really? He doesn't know much about men who kill women, especially serial killers of women. Rex revealed it in his computer searches and other evidence that he kept. He was into SM.

I bet he also didn't realize that Rex probably dismembered his victims because it made it easier to hide them as they removed them from the place they were killed to the "disposal" site.

I'm trying to recall the case, but there was another one I was following in which the investigators had little to no formal training in homicides. JMO
 
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I would scour the coast with cadaver dogs. look how he kept moving up the coast...I would also move down from victim 2 in the other direction...the beach where he was a life guard.

unknown missing girls could be laying in the spaces where there isn't any foot traffic ... why wouldn't there be more?

also could be other Jane Does in other areas. I think he pulled a fast one..he is getting off easily without further incrimination.

how careful was he about DNA etc. back in the 90's say?

how many unsolved cases are tabled in the area? Definitely not the last time we hear from Rex. mOO
I urge you to watch the post-plea presser that's been linked in the thread numerous times already in it's entireity.

Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney is very clear in that these pleas and upcoming sentencing relate only to these 8 victims and no other cases are/were considered.

He states at one point when asked about DNA going into CODIS now, that they (Suffolk County) have always/are cooperated with other Jurisdiction's "investigations" and continue to do so. He then used "potential investigations" are not impacted by this plea.

Seems to me that should RH be linked to any further crimes inside or outside of NY, that he will be on the hook for charges and trials for such (I do think links will be found to other potential crimes .... eventually).

I'm especially curious abouth the Asian Doe case and hoping they are identified soon. I want to know whether RH googled "*Asian Twink*" before or after the discovery of this victim. It does seem out of his preference but if that google search happened before this victim's discovery and the releasing of their identity as being Asian, I'm thinking he's good for that murder too IMO.

A little less so if that search came after the announcement becuase he was perhaps curious about someone else using his site as an explanation which would then mean that 3 different killer disposed of their victims remains along this stretch of Gilgo (RH's victims, Peaches & child & Asian Doe). The odds of that seem astronomical. Greater than the odds of RH also using another site that was also used by another SK (Manorville). And, yet here we are.
 
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There is one reassurance- the cooperation Rex has promised is with the FBI. Hopefully, the FBI can follow its leads and facts, and not be compelled to look into what Suffolk County wants looked at, only.

IANAL either, and don't really understand what that the cooperation agreement means or entails.

MOO
This is the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit.

His agreement includes:
  • Clinical Interviews: He will sit down with the FBI to provide insight into his motivations and background as part of an academic and scientific exercise.
  • Truthful Cooperation: He is legally obligated to cooperate "truthfully and fairly" with federal profilers as a condition of the deal that avoids further prosecution for those eight victims.
  • Insights for Future Cases: Authorities hope the information gathered will help the FBI understand violent criminal behavior more deeply and assist in identifying other potential victims or solving new cases
 
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so Rex is going to work with the hallowed behavioral science unit of the FBI...but he's not going to give up any other victims,
they will have to find those themselves...so how is that cooperating? he's going to get special meals and tons of attention.
it's sickening to me and his smirk just put me over the edge. he thinks he's a movie star. mOO
 
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so Rex is going to work with the hallowed behavioral science unit of the FBI...but he's not going to give up any other victims,
they will have to find those themselves...so how is that cooperating? he's going to get special meals and tons of attention.
it's sickening to me and his smirk just put me over the edge. he thinks he's a movie star
. mOO
BBM
That's EXACTLY what is going to happen!
 
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This is the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit.

His agreement includes:
  • Clinical Interviews: He will sit down with the FBI to provide insight into his motivations and background as part of an academic and scientific exercise.
  • Truthful Cooperation: He is legally obligated to cooperate "truthfully and fairly" with federal profilers as a condition of the deal that avoids further prosecution for those eight victims.
  • Insights for Future Cases: Authorities hope the information gathered will help the FBI understand violent criminal behavior more deeply and assist in identifying other potential victims or solving new cases
So, he can't have further charges on the 7 murders, and no charges on Karen Vergata, ever, if he cooperates truthfully and fairly?.

Thanks. I have to digest that a bit.

MOO
 
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So, he can't have further charges on the 7 murders, and no charges on Karen Vergata, ever, if he cooperates truthfully and fairly?.

Thanks. I have to digest that a bit.

MOO
At least, according to the plea agreement, he has to serve his life sentences consecutively, not concurrently. I hope he's not eligible for parole, either. Kind of unusual plea agreement when the prosecution had so much evidence against him.

ETA: There are 3 first degree murder charges to be served consecutively, so it seems pretty likely he will be in prison for life.
 
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At least, according to the plea agreement, he has to serve his life sentences consecutively, not concurrently. I hope he's not eligible for parole, either. Kind of unusual plea agreement when the prosecution had so much evidence against him.
Yes @Betty P ….. and IMO something does not seem quite right about that. I sure wish I was misinterpreting things, but I fear you have it exactly right. Unfortunately.

Why is the question? Hard not to suspect that someone is being protected I fear. And sure wish I was wrong to feel their way. But with that much supposed evidence……. I best stop here on that. IANAL.

And I wonder how that television expose that was supposed to get a real story from the family adjusts the script now. Someone else above speculated why RH supposedly seems to have ceased some activity circa 2010? Has there been anything indicated about whether someone close to him might have found something out or learned something? Or something thwarted RH ability to continue?

Bless the victims, their families, and friends. And I know she has her own thread here…… but I hope that more answers are ultimately received for Shannan Gilbert and her family. My opinion, without that case and her family’s attorney helping ‘push that locomotive up hill’ I wonder where this case might have gotten. And I am still not certain one has all the answers in that case. Others can disagree or feel their own way, but IMO some thanks also should go to JR. MOO
 
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"What really happened inside the courtroom yesterday? In this special live episode of Sinister, Josh Zeman and journalist Laura Ingle ‪@TheIngleEdit‬ break down the Rex Heuermann hearing and everything that unfolded behind closed doors.Did Heuermann change his plea?What did he actually say in court?Did he admit to anything?And more importantly, what does this moment mean for the victims, their families, and the future of the case?Josh and Laura take you inside the courtroom with real insight, context, and analysis you won’t get from headlines alone."

 
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So, he can't have further charges on the 7 murders, and no charges on Karen Vergata, ever, if he cooperates truthfully and fairly?.

Thanks. I have to digest that a bit.

MOO
IF he follows through.
 
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I urge you to watch the post-plea presser that's been linked in the thread numerous times already in it's entireity.

Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney is very clear in that these pleas and upcoming sentencing relate only to these 8 victims and no other cases are/were considered.

He states at one point when asked about DNA going into CODIS now, that they (Suffolk County) have always/are cooperated with other Jurisdiction's "investigations" and continue to do so. He then used "potential investigations" are not impacted by this plea.
Snipped for focus: that statement has made me wonder if over the course of nearly three years, a large number of investigations have been looked at with Suffolk County providing RH's DNA for matching. Perhaps because of this cooperation and no hits, Tierney may think the effect of adding RH's DNA to CODIS will have little effect. This is such a well-known case, it would seem likely any LE unit with a possible RH case would have contacted Suffolk County by now. I'm not sure we'll see much from CODIS.
 
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At least, according to the plea agreement, he has to serve his life sentences consecutively, not concurrently. I hope he's not eligible for parole, either. Kind of unusual plea agreement when the prosecution had so much evidence against him.
I think he knew from the day he was arrested that he would die in prison, I do wonder if the Feds are also investigating him, we shall see if more charges occur over time, they can investigate him with no time pressure as they know who he is and where he is
 
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Live now


Started streaming 20 minutes ago

"What really happened inside the courtroom yesterday? In this special live episode of Sinister, Josh Zeman and journalist Laura Ingle ‪@TheIngleEdit‬ break down the Rex Heuermann hearing and everything that unfolded behind closed doors.Did Heuermann change his plea?What did he actually say in court?Did he admit to anything?And more importantly, what does this moment mean for the victims, their families, and the future of the case?Josh and Laura take you inside the courtroom with real insight, context, and analysis you won’t get from headlines alone."

Live so no timestamp.

So heartwarming to know that AE had a comforting masculine shoulder in court yesterday. s/
imo
Josh and Laura spoke about her sitting in the back of the courtroom , eyes closed as her ex-husband pleaded "yes" to murdering 8 women and sitting next to her was the Peacock's director.
 
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So, he can't have further charges on the 7 murders, and no charges on Karen Vergata, ever, if he cooperates truthfully and fairly?.

Thanks. I have to digest that a bit.

MOO
Exactly.
RH's attorney is no dummy. By lumping in KV at the last minute RH won't be given further charges in her death. It's a "blocking" attempt.

Michael Brown knows how powerful Lorrain Paulino's affidavit is. LP is the only human who saw, met and talked with Asa Hauermann while Karen V. was delivered to and in that house.

That affidavit could have opened all kinds of answers. But, now we may never know.
 
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