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  • #781
Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer
I objected to being ordered to leave this time. The judge asked if any of the lawyers objected to the presence of the press. Nurmi did.
 
  • #782
Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer
At 4:15, the judge will hear a motion from the AZ Republic and 12News regarding the way the judge asks the press and public to leave.


WildAboutTrial ‏@WildAboutTrial
Is #JodiArias acting out the scene for the judge and attorneys only? That's what some speculate out in the hallway. We shall see.
 
  • #783
from AZ reporter's twitter feed:

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer

I objected to being ordered to leave this time. The judge asked if any of the lawyers objected to the presence of the press. Nurmi did.

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer

Judge Stephens made a record of my objection and asked me to leave anyway. Let's see what happens at 4:15.

apparently judge will hear his argument at 4:15
 
  • #784
Elizabeth Erwin ‏@elizabetherwin
No jurors taking notes, they're all looking at #jodiarias.
 
  • #785
JA standing up and getting ready to

show me the linebacker pose . . .
she keeps trying to talk

arms out to side
he got down like that - crouching an then helicopter outstretched arms in . . .

how is it the shell casing landed in blood?
it didn't land inblood . . .

there was a casing on the floor how it . . . . see the casing there
not how it landed on the blood

after he came out you did you go down - we both did
on your back - yes
strike head - no not at that time recollection - don't know
he landed to the side of me and grab @ my clothes . . .right side

he's got this gunshot where
I didn't know he had a gunshot
he's very pissed off and trying to grab me
he was screaming at me obscenities . . . don't remember the words
can't remember words he is scream

he is toward you left or right
toward the tub
near the tub
on that side
he was not bleeding @ the time
you haven't asked me bout that

when he is down there you haven't seen blood - thre could be no blood in bathroom
I don't agree with that
you were there - ran this direction . . . see blood on the left side? no blood when I ran that direction . . . no how about here wher eit says #5 - no blood when you shot him . . not at he moment the gun went off . . was there any blood when he was struck . . . weren't you looking @ him . . .

right after the gun . . . I remember closing my eyes really tight - seeing him and gun went off and we fel.l. . . wasn't he still a threat?

you closed eyes and just lay there
no when the gun went off
you opened them @ some point
I didn't look @ him
he is cursing @ you same words as before - cursing you say precipitating this killing - not looking @ him
attempting to get away from him . . .not looking
not looking @ source of danger
no
you are not
why not look
I didn't need to I already knew what he was doing
cursing, grabbing @ you,
my eyes closed - I blinked I don't know
open eyes -did you see blood
no
he is still not dead . . .
he was very angry - on side of me grabbing @ my clothes
punching or hitting you
no
anything els
trying to gain control of me I was push him away . . .

did you ever tell him stop
I think I scream stop when I point gun @ him
when he is next to you on right hand side did you say anything to him
I don't remember

now you shot him - your memory getting foggy
it gets foggy from there - it begins to fog

you were not shot
no
only injury on your ring finger
that is the only visible injury

he slammed you down from shower, slammed you down when got gun from you - no bruise except left ring finger - don't know if skull was buised . . . get medical for that ? no . . did you get care for your finger - not professional care

you did have injury to that finger
yes
when saw mr. burns you did have injury to finger
two different injuries

we are talking about the killing
june 4th
no other day just this day talk about today

I might have said it but it was not what I meant
and I followed up with and you didn't seek medical care . . . you said not professional medical care - I was referring to the splint travis made for my finger . . . . he was dead this time - no not immediately after that . . . .

TA you just shot - he didn't provide medical care did he? that is right . . . the only injury on june 4th 2008 . . . you did say . . . visible injuries on left ringer finger . . . june 4th 2008 -

you said yes
that is not how I understood your question . . .

he's down - he's to your right - I break away and he screams I will f@cking kill you b!tch . . .I heard words F@cking kill you B!itch . . .

what did he say getting out of the shower . . . . he says F@cking idiot a F'ing 5 y/o could hold camera better than you . . . .

wrestler in highschool - very strong . . .able to get away
yes
what did you do
I don't remember I just remember I don't remember anything . . . a few little pieces have come back since . .

whatever pieces you remember
at one point I remember dropping the knife and scream
come to you since?
yes
what else?
the other ones are vague
if vague we don't wanna hear them

I remember sound when it hit the tile . . . all you remember
from that point to that point yes

approach for sidebar?
 
  • #786
JA standing up and getting ready to

show me the linebacker pose . . .
she keeps trying to talk

arms out to side
he got down like that - crouching an then helicopter outstretched arms in . . .

how is it the shell casing landed in blood?
it didn't land inblood . . .

there was a casing on the floor how it . . . . see the casing there
not how it landed on the blood

after he came out you did you go down - we both did
on your back - yes
strike head - no not at that time recollection - don't know
he landed to the side of me and grab @ my clothes . . .right side

he's got this gunshot where
I didn't know he had a gunshot
he's very pissed off and trying to grab me
he was screaming at me obscenities . . . don't remember the words
can't remember words he is scream

he is toward you left or right
toward the tub
near the tub
on that side
he was not bleeding @ the time
you haven't asked me bout that

when he is down there you haven't seen blood - thre could be no blood in bathroom
I don't agree with that
you were there - ran this direction . . . see blood on the left side? no blood when I ran that direction . . . no how about here wher eit says #5 - no blood when you shot him . . not at he moment the gun went off . . was there any blood when he was struck . . . weren't you looking @ him . . .

right after the gun . . . I remember closing my eyes really tight - seeing him and gun went off and we fel.l. . . wasn't he still a threat?

you closed eyes and just lay there
no when the gun went off
you opened them @ some point
I didn't look @ him
he is cursing @ you same words as before - cursing you say precipitating this killing - not looking @ him
attempting to get away from him . . .not looking
not looking @ source of danger
no
you are not
why not look
I didn't need to I already knew what he was doing
cursing, grabbing @ you,
my eyes closed - I blinked I don't know
open eyes -did you see blood
no
he is still not dead . . .
he was very angry - on side of me grabbing @ my clothes
punching or hitting you
no
anything els
trying to gain control of me I was push him away . . .

did you ever tell him stop
I think I scream stop when I point gun @ him
when he is next to you on right hand side did you say anything to him
I don't remember

now you shot him - your memory getting foggy
it gets foggy from there - it begins to fog

you were not shot
no
only injury on your ring finger
that is the only visible injury

he slammed you down from shower, slammed you down when got gun from you - no bruise except left ring finger - don't know if skull was buised . . . get medical for that ? no . . did you get care for your finger - not professional care

you did have injury to that finger
yes
when saw mr. burns you did have injury to finger
two different injuries

we are talking about the killing
june 4th
no other day just this day talk about today

I might have said it but it was not what I meant
and I followed up with and you didn't seek medical care . . . you said not professional medical care - I was referring to the splint travis made for my finger . . . . he was dead this time - no not immediately after that . . . .

TA you just shot - he didn't provide medical care did he? that is right . . . the only injury on june 4th 2008 . . . you did say . . . visible injuries on left ringer finger . . . june 4th 2008 -

you said yes
that is not how I understood your question . . .

he's down - he's to your right - I break away and he screams I will f@cking kill you b!tch . . .I heard words F@cking kill you B!itch . . .

what did he say getting out of the shower . . . . he says F@cking idiot a F'ing 5 y/o could hold camera better than you . . . .

wrestler in highschool - very strong . . .able to get away
yes
what did you do
I don't remember I just remember I don't remember anything . . . a few little pieces have come back since . .

whatever pieces you remember
at one point I remember dropping the knife and scream
come to you since?
yes
what else?
the other ones are vague
if vague we don't wanna hear them

I remember sound when it hit the tile . . . all you remember
from that point to that point yes

approach for sidebar?
 
  • #787
  • #788
Just have to say, Wenwe4, you're a goddess! (I'm assuming you're female), your transcriptions are so fast & accurate, thank you....

yep . . . last time I checked I was female . . . but I should warn you I am still in my jammies (shhhhh) and I haven't even checked today!

thank you for the kinds words

:seeya:
 
  • #789
with regard to the killing of TA on 6/4/08 it was you that killed him . . you don't dispute you were there . . your dna was there . . . yes

I begin . . . things get foggy after that point
I don't remember what I did with the camera
you acknowledge camera was right next to the tub
I don't know if it got kicked around or not
exhibit #162 - first look @ acknowledge this says 6/4/08 5:32:16 yes



pic of Jodi foot dragging bloody travis with his foot in the background on the tile floor

room mates two of you had to be careful in your sexual trysts as to not to awaken or alert other roommates what was going on . .
correct
they were not home
this part of the day? I don't believe it would have made a difference
I don't know what time they got home

you are wearing socks
yes

there appears to be a zipper on the pants
yes

this is Mr. a's head correct - blood right there - that is his foot
yes

given the way the lights are the bathroom is in this direction - correct

you would agree with me if the camera - exhibit #249 last seen here by the tub . . . see that things happened way say they happened we have this photo - you were the one that moved that camera
it could have been us both don't remember
you get foggy
after he threatened my life . . . F@cking kill you b!tch

not the first time I ran down the hall . ..
fear of your life - camera landed next to the tub - photo was snapped at the time we agree it was snapped . . . TA was down next to the tub It was you that moved that camera
objection - sustained

last memory of TA that you have he is down on the ground - after you shot him . . .never saw him walk around . . no I didn't . . . assume you did shoot him, he didn't walk around . . .camera was where you told us - this camera would have to be moved . . . you moved it . . .
objection

only under that theory

see this picture - see him - take a look
I have already seen it
it is your position that he in that condition could move the camera?
I don't know

that camera ended up in washing machine
you have horrible incident happened upstairs
camera used to photo of TA in the shower - camera dropped now photo here and it was you that put that camera in the wash

yes I think that is right it would have to be me
TA never left the upstairs

your mental state back then - you pick up camera and putit in wash - you knew what happened . . .I guess - don't know why in the washing machine

we know he is dead after this - pics were deleted from the camera . . . no roommates are there - this photo is snapped and deleted - you are the one delete . . .that would make sense - I don't remember deleting . . I would have to say yes . . . deleting something is not a one step process - that is correct - you were not familiar with this camera - required you to do . ..

acknowledge it took some mechanical movement fingers and thought process to delete these pictures
I would agree with that
deleting items from the camera was in any way necessary for you to do prior to leaving TA's home
don't understand what you mean
nothing pressing or threatening about the camera that required you to delete these images.
don't know what you mean

in order to delete you have to view them . . . I know you say don't remember but acknowledge decision made to delete . . . yes . . . . you delete photos to not implicate you in TA's death
I don't agree with that
it helps you in your defense
I don't agree with that either

here in this picture . . . . door area - blood, TA' . . . deleted this person was you
I guess yes

exhibit #67 and #68 - pic of the hall and closet door . . . . blood on the carpet - was that your blood? don't think mine - . . .Mr A's. yes

pattern on the right not as dark as the left . . . if you had socks on you were walking thru blood kind of pattern your socks would leave
objection - wearing socks @ hat time . . . .overruled
d
take a look @ #130 . . . #162 . . . . foot photo (his and hers) . . . this end over here is the bathroom - see that . . . . this exhibit is # 130 - you agree his foot toward the bathroom . . . this door is the one he was banging his head on in Aug 2007 . . . pattern have here head in this direction . . this is where his head was resting....
I think I don't know I guess

he would not be the person leaving these foot prints to the right . . . he is not standing there - what you know he is not going to stand there
I would be very inclined to agree with that
 
  • #790
Pic of the bathroom sink w/blood spatter . . . . not blood from your left ring finger . . .no my left ring finger not bleeding @ all . .

you would have to be standing in this picture for it to be taken

I would think that

one things happened - found on the body was a glass . . . . aware of that? yes . . . before the murder no glass in the bathroom - it was under the sink . .
before the murder but found on top of him after the murder . . . you went under the sink and got the glass and you used that glass to try and clean up . . . lots of water in the bathroom after the killing . . . #118 . . . acknowledge these water marks in red colored appears to be blood wicking up the box in the closet - you created those water marks . . . these red areas here are TA's blood . .. yes he was in that place bleeding

Exhibit #125 closet to the right the closet to the left and the end of the hallway into the bedroom - yes

agree now see . . . there was stain on #128 . . .concentrated on rug . . nowhere else in that bedroom - you were only one walking around in socks . . . (seen in #162) . . .prior to walking out - you took those socks off . . . no blood any where else

did have blood on the socks - water on te floor - maybe other blood throughout - wherever you stepped
objection - overruled

please repeat that

acknowledge you took socks off before you walked in bedroom - you knew they had blood on them didn't want to get blood on rest . .

objection - sustained.

did leave the house didn't you
yes
you left .. . there is no record anywhere in AZ of you ever being other than this killing . .. I disagree . . . at one time there would have been survellience video . . .

used gas in those 3 cans to fill up your car - in AZ filled up car . . .

you acknowledge 3 transactions 2. something gallons . . . 2 gas cans from Mr. Brewer and bought one @ Walmart - yes in selinas had 3rd one . ..
gas in cans placed in your car in AZ?
no I didn't need to do that

next time you could remember anything hyou in middle desert

phone call was 57 miles north of kingman . .. out in mid desert - you stopped . . I got rid of the gun . . .

even though immediately after this killing happened you wnet into a fog . .. one of the things we know from your admission gun involved - used to shoot him . .. took it out to the desert - removed it from the house - you were the one

if you were in a fog . . don't know status of your current events - would you agree there would be no need to take the gun .
I would not agree with that
even though you in fog - there wsa a decision a voluntary decision
I think you are getting fog confused . .. my memory

you removed the gun from the crime scene - you in fog aabout everything . ..
I don't know
well it's your fog
is that a question
it's your fog isn't it?
yes

particular fog you are in . . why even think of taking the gun uneless you really knew what was going on . . . I can only speculate because I don't remember . .

in a fog, don't remember - why take the gun Maam/
I remember taking the gun and throwing the gun
remember where gun came from
I recognized it was TA's gun . . . .

shortly before this trip your Grandfather had a robbery - yes I found out after I got back into town

you knew on May 28th you knew about the robbery gun taken
on June 4 stop on side road - right
yes
had implement to kill TA
yess

why get rid of it if your were in this fog
I didn't think I did anything wrong
do you believe you did something wrong with regard to Mr. A
I regret what happened

yes . . .
with you on the side of the road . . . you got rid of the gun
I just threw it yeah . .
this knowing you had done something wrong was preceeded was taking it from the crime scene - prior to leaving the crimescene - you did something wrong - you knew it . . . you altered crime scene

it appears so
we know you took it . . .
yes

no knife found in the bathroom area
yes
we know you took it
I don't remember having knife after that
no knife up there
I don't remember hearing any testimony about that

in #193 Mr. A' was stabbed you would acknowledge that
crying yes
with a knife - that stabbing
yes

after the shooting according to you?
yes I don't remember
don't remember I am not asking - you acknowledge a lot of stab wounds were to the back of the head and torso . . .we can count them together
I guess - you count them
would you like to take a look @ them
no

he's no threat to you
I don't know

how could he possibly be any threat to you
crying
---I could only guess - I don't know what you are aksing me

wound - with regard to stab wounds you would acknowledge sequence of events . . objection . .

are you talking about his testimony? yes I disagree with sequence of events . . .

would you agree you are the person who actually slit TA' throat from ear to ear - stabbed him in upper torso . .. crying saying yes

you are doing all of this after you have already shot him . . yes
correct
I believe so . . .

he was coming @ you and he was horrible man with a mean face
yes I didn't say he was horrible
you said he wsa mean
I think I did yes
he was cursing @ you - chased you down threw you down . . the individual you shot first . . . don't know if I shot him the gun went off . . . gun went off you didhear - yes


one things don't know . . .there wsa this rope involved earlier in the day . . . sexual interlude with TA . . .went behind the headboard . . . . police did not find a rope there - you took that rope didn't you? yes

why would you take that rope if you were in a fog
I don't remember taking it - I don't know . .

nothing to do with you in the killing
not that I remember
rope taken - acknowledge you threw it away - you took it
yes

even in fog - you knew to go look around for particular rope . . .
I dont' know


you did take it . . . remember where you threw it away . .
I think It was in a dumpster

other than that it would show you had been there . . why take the rope
I don't know maybe for that very reason . . I don't know

changed clothing . .
don't know
pulled off road and went to trunk of car - had gas cans . . . in back with the case of water and suit case . . .blood on you . . . back then stop/security check @ hoover dam - not so much in a fog the checkpoint existed . . . I did not know . . .icame to know when I drove up and ther was a sign . . . you stopped car before checkpoint

long time when I called or texted brian or leslie or someone . .. . got water cleaned hands- changed socks or put shoes on . . I put socks and shoes on . . bloody clothes you took those off and testified threw them away with the gun . don't remember clothes thrown away in desert . . .

change of pants and clean hands happened before checkpoint - be to your advantage clean hands and not soiled blood clothing . . .go thru check point . . .in my mind . . making calls prior to the check point . . .ability to look thru car to find my charger - wasn't looking for my charger but looking thru car . . . allowed you make some telephone calls before AZ and NV border - before the checkpoint .d. . .. driving @ that time telephone was in position to make calls out . . .
I believe so yes

how far to the check point
about an hour
telephone came on started make calls . .. attempted to only able to send text . . .were able to call RB . . . in this fog . . . able to call him and make up a lie . . . the fog I was referring to relates to my memory . .. could have told RB you were with TA . . that is right - this fog wsa not so heavy it prevented you from making up a lie . . . mde up lie you lost charger . . .gone to a gas station to get charger . . .no that is not what I told him . . . Rb is full of crap . . . no he has poor memory on some things. . . .

I know him from all his inconsistent statements to the police . . .you told him you got lost
 
  • #791
Attempted to call RB, DB, MM and another thing you did coming immediately out of this fog you try to divert attention away from you to have anyone think about you connected to this killing . .. fog not so deep it prevents you from lying . . . get the telephone messages just rigt. . . so I wasn't crying in the message . . sounds as natural as possible . . we nt to great lengths to do that . . . any suspicion drawn away from you . .. want police look elsewhere - reason made the call . . .
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called TA and left him message - lets play it and hear what you said . . ..
 
  • #792
playing audio clip . . . . JA left this on TA's vm after she killed him . . .

JA lying on the message . . .leaving TA a message saying she got lost - drove 100 miles in wrong direction . . .visit you in Yreka a. . . . you know that is not true . . .no that was our plan before June 4th . . .

sorry you couldn't stop by but could make up for it when he comes up . . . lie?
yes
you could escape responsibility . . . not for my benefit . . . .escape for the time being....

you would be happy
for the . . .I don't know how to answer
you didn't go to police with any of your information ever
I think I iniitated contact
you told them the truth?
I wouldn't say that
you have been satisfied relieved to avoid anything to do with TA
that was my goal that day

main reason . . . there would be no other reason to leave a dead man a telephone call . . . I wouldn't have done that because Leslie said she called his phone looking for me because I was missing ...

you are telling me the reason you called TA after dead it was Lelie Udy fault
no
you knew better to know he was not alive
she told me though
you didn't have to follow her words
I didn't have to - I chose to do . . . . if you are going down the road of me saying Leslie made me do it . .
I am not saying that - your personal relationship - as a result of Leslie Udy . . .

I made the call - I just got the idea after speaking with her
she was the reason why you had the idea
kind of
if you had not talke d to Leslie Udy you wouldn't have thought about it

I might have -but I don't know - this outside thing happened but your decision

you went to see him - it was your decision
part of me did and part of me didn't he did guilt me - it was still my decision

you had something else to cover up didn't you
yes
another exhibit
 
  • #793
June 6 2007 text the hours are off by 7 hrs. . . admit exhibit . . .504?

new evidence this late in the game . . . go Juan!
 
  • #794
9:58 am . . . hey I need to know when you are going to deposit that check . . .
the check you know it was uncashed in his desk
I didn't know where it was
you had conversation with Det. . . you knew it was uncashed
yeah I knew
you knew TA was dead
yeah I did
cover up what you had done
yes
didn't want to be faced wit hwhatever consequences
afraid of the consequences
a good enough excuse - you were afraid . . . even though fog involved you felt It was ok to send this message
I didn't feel it was ok

why are you sending it to reach him in the grave
no
sending it so that you wont have to face consequences of what you did
yes
just like the scene - manipulate the evicence

take a look @ another exhibit

505
sent by you to TA to his email

Sat June 7 2008 - 10:21
 
  • #795
from you - told us date and time
goal . . .
hey you I haven't heard back from you I hope you not still upset didn't come to see you . .. gonna be here in less than 2 weeks - we are going to see the sights . . .
check things off the list - all kinds of fun things . . .Oregon is beautiful this time year . .. anyway let you know push my visit up this week - I know you in Cancun - I crash in your bed eat frozen dinners - your house is my second home . . you probably in calif . . .wherever you are get ahold of me before leave for mexico.

you wrot that
yes
stage scene
yes

play something for you Maam . ..

No jury is gonna convict me - mark my words on that I am innocent . . .

no jury convict me - not suicide you are saying you are innocent - you are going to lie your way out of it . . you indicated certain things . . . .TA saw him masturbate to pics of young boys - I saw one picture . .. that is a lie . . I wish it was a lie . .. issue of him being hypersexual and overbearing . . . .not true . . it's true he is hypersexual . . . overbearing - I don't think he was overbearing. . .

you were in it to the same extent he was in the activity
we saw text messages
we heard conversations you had . . . you wanted to sexually blossom - wanted a facial you were enjoying the sex. . . yes

for days and days you told about how uncomfy you feel . . .only those times we didn't talk about other times.

in March you going to move he hit you on finger
journal speaks of tenderness - three soft kisses
allegation he kicked you - hurt finger
in your journal - nothing noteworthy happened

on 1/22 you allegedly saw him in this masturbatory conduct
that was on 21st - but journal covers the 21st - yes

acquitted because you came in told these stories
I am not able to predict future - I planned to kill myself
you started your testimony those are the bitter words ever uttered ever eaten
good memory about what you said -yes

no jury would convict you - you were going to commit suicide but in the clip we saw - you were innocent - even that is a lie . .. not how I was meaning it
object - argumentative
rephrase

inconsistent with this particular exhibit #248 . . . objection
approach

28 min after only 2 min left of court today!
 
  • #796
in exhibit #248 you heard self - no jury will convict me I am innocent . . .then reason you said no jury convict plan to kill self . .. no I didn't say suicide there was a officer sitting behind me pulle me off to a room strip me naked and I would end up living there . ..


innocent of preplanning . . .whatever you are trying to say
statements are different?
yeah they are different

Monday @ 10:15 - nice weekend - jury dismissed . . . JA is von trapping again
 
  • #797
KPNX broadcast filed for release of closed hearing records and transcripts . . .

Phoenix news . . .

received application this morning - Atty's have already received . .
what is the STate position - leave to court discretion

Nurmi - right to public trial weigh against right for fair trial . . things discussed in those chambers and in conference help to ensure she gets fair trial - disseminate that info would interfere with that . . . I am not certain what dissertions they would make . . it has been their consistent pattern to ignore fact this is death penalty trial . .
 
  • #798
If court allows out . . . eviscerate her right to fair trial . . . trial not a television event . . .

no authority JA's right should be truncated for

news are mindful this is important criminal case - do not mean to diminish fair trials rights - this was decided in 1960's no less than 4 cases in 1988 first amend right of press and public to attend cases just like these we are at disadvantage why hearing on 2/20 or any other closed proceedings should be closed . . . .

right of public to attend all aspects of criminal proceedings - limited only upon showing buttressed by overriding interest that trumps that overriding right . . . narrow tailored to protect interest of higher value . . no less drastic alternative to closure

we don't know what happened in closed proceeding - we have to ask court support closure or release transcripts that exist today
 
  • #799
Beth Karas InSession
Cross is completed! There are several slips of paper from the jurors in their basket. Redirect is Monday at 12:15 pm ET.
 
  • #800

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