***GRAPHIC*** The Missing Head

[Sierra20]

That would have made sence if he hadnt put the kill video online.. IMO

Well if he wasn't concerned about getting captured then why not just stay in Canada and not go on the run?

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

A TIP:

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/invest...illing-leads-police-to-montreal-park-1.862166

Police are saying very little else about the discovery, but have said they were brought to the park by a tip in connection to the murder of Lin, a 33-year-old computer engineering student and Chinese national, who was gruesomely murdered and dismembered in late May.



Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/invest...olice-to-montreal-park-1.862166#ixzz1zV2ehuCn

 

[thedissent]

i don't think it was a trophy in the sense that it was something that he would cherish or visit (if he were free to do so). I think the information about the head was the trophy. The fact that he knew, and le & general public didn't. I think that's his trophy. Just another way for him to troll everyone and be a jackass.

+1000.

 

[Sierra20]

The head didn't technically have to be a trophy in order for LM to use it in a manner that copied the Moor murders. He knew that authorities would want the head in particular as well as the family. So why not continue the cat/mouse game which is his calling card, and do something with the head that left authorities hunting for it, or gave him a secret card to play at a later date. It's just a theory/possibility. If the head meant nothing to him as you assert, then why not just put it in the trash with the torso? Why go all the way to the park to dispose of it? It meant something different to LM because he treated it different.

Well it is a human head, I mean it is a bit different to other parts of the body. It's like the main part of the body! Maybe it would be the part you would want to get rid of somewhere far away, or put more thought in where to dispose of it.

 

[otto]

A TIP:

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/invest...illing-leads-police-to-montreal-park-1.862166

Police are saying very little else about the discovery, but have said they were brought to the park by a tip in connection to the murder of Lin, a 33-year-old computer engineering student and Chinese national, who was gruesomely murdered and dismembered in late May.



Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/invest...olice-to-montreal-park-1.862166#ixzz1zV2ehuCn

Per CBC ... same thing ... a tip received on Sunday afternoon.

 

[Shimmers]

Maybe I'm think a bit too far, but I was studying the metro-map (kindly provided by ~n/t~) and the map of Montreal and something stood out to me.
He lived around may 2011 in the rue charlevoix area, same as around feb 2012. From the metreo station at Charlevoix it is only a few stops to that park, same is for the Decarie blvd, although he has to travel longer and has to switch lines. On the map the distance between both adresses and that park don't differ that much. So my thoughts were this: he lived at a reasonable travelling distance from the park and from what I've read it is also known as a gay cruising area. Him being known for doing tricks with men, does it sound too crazy if i think that he might have been a visitor after dark in the park? Maybe even know the "hidden spots" to preform his devastatingly good looking act?

I don't know how long a metro ride would take from both adresses to the park, but maybe some Montrealers would be so kind to shed a light on this?

If i'm overboard on this one just say so... but this is just a thought after studying the maps. ( which by now i know my way in Montreal if i ever going to visit it hehe )

 

[Sunday]

I haven't seen it where it was specified a "tip was received Sunday afternoon". Do you have a link for that? I'm in and out today because of the holiday and would like to read it later.

Gotta go for now.

I am on way out the door but will dredge up link upon return. I want to say it was CBS article online but can't recall. I'll get back to you!

 

[matou]

Maybe I'm think a bit too far, but I was studying the metro-map (kindly provided by ~n/t~) and the map of Montreal and something stood out to me.
He lived around may 2011 in the rue charlevoix area, same as around feb 2012. From the metreo station at Charlevoix it is only a few stops to that park, same is for the Decarie blvd, although he has to travel longer and has to switch lines. On the map the distance between both adresses and that park don't differ that much. So my thoughts were this: he lived at a reasonable travelling distance from the park and from what I've read it is also known as a gay cruising area. Him being known for doing tricks with men, does it sound too crazy if i think that he might have been a visitor after dark in the park? Maybe even know the "hidden spots" to preform his devastatingly good looking act?

I don't know how long a metro ride would take from both adresses to the park, but maybe some Montrealers would be so kind to shed a light on this?

If i'm overboard on this one just say so... but this is just a thought after studying the maps. ( which by now i know my way in Montreal if i ever going to visit it hehe )

I read in the Toronto Star that the driving distance from his last address to the location of the head is 14 minutes and the public transit would take 34 minutes.

map from the link: Boulevard Décarie & Place Lucy, Montréal, QC H3X 3Z4, Canada to Angrignon Park, Montréal, Québec, Canada - Google Maps

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1220185--luka-rocco-magnotta-head-found-in-montreal-park

 

[Donyale]

i think perhaps he separated the dump sites for identification purposes, to give him time to get out of dodge, so to speak...if the head was found with the torso, it would possibly be identified faster...thus luka would have been possibly captured while still in canada...just my opinion...

I agree... It is not uncommon to spread around across the city the body parts, this is exactly what drug dealers who kill junkies in debt do here where I live, this modus operandis makes a lot harder for the police to identify the victim. I hope it's JL head, at least it gives some closure and his family can bury their son. I will wait for the dna results.

 

[HastingsChi]

If this discovery turns out to be the remains of Jun Lin, it raises more questions than provides answers...

More importantly, would folks agree that the tip likely came from an individual who simply stumbled upon the remains or is it more likely that it came from someone with intimate knowledge of the crime and it's aftermath?




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[HastingsChi]

I agree... It is not uncommon to spread around across the city the body parts, this is exactly what drug dealers who kill junkies in debt do here where I live, this modus operandis makes a lot harder for the police to identify the victim. I hope it's JL head, at least it gives some closure and his family can bury their son. I will wait for the dna results.

I completely agree with your logic, but when related to Magnotta it doesn't fit the pattern of an attention seeking fame ... Then again not much about Magnotta's actions seems to fit a specific model...




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[matou]

If this discovery turns out to be the remains of Jun Lin, it raises more questions than provides answers...

More importantly, would folks agree that the tip likely came from an individual who simply stumbled upon the remains or is it more likely that it came from someone with intimate knowledge of the crime and it's aftermath?




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There was a report that LE stated it was not found as a result of a passerby. From a french article earlier today.

 

[HastingsChi]

There was a report that LE stated it was not found as a result of a passerby. From a french article earlier today.

Thanks matou! But might it come from someone anonymously who stumbled on it and reported it later? I ask because someone mentioned the location being a cruising area and let's say a married, closeted seemingly heterosexual male made the discovery and need to report it in such a manner as to not be connected to a gay cruising area himself?



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[matou]

Thanks matou! But might it come from someone anonymously who stumbled on it and reported it later? I ask because someone mentioned the location being a cruising area and let's say a married, closeted seemingly heterosexual male made the discovery and need to report it in such a manner as to not be connected to a gay cruising area himself?



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True enough but the "tip" came in on a national holiday, yesterday was Canada Day. I'm guessing there would be a lot of people in the park and it would make clandestine meetings a bit risky. It would be believable that someone just stumbled upon it if it left out in in the open with many people walking around and someone might have noticed a raunchy smell. But LE stated that the tip was not from a passerby.

EDIT: oh I see. Maybe someone called in an anonymous tip based on seeing it earlier. OK.

 

[Sigh Sister]

Thanks matou! But might it come from someone anonymously who stumbled on it and reported it later? I ask because someone mentioned the location being a cruising area and let's say a married, closeted seemingly heterosexual male made the discovery and need to report it in such a manner as to not be connected to a gay cruising area himself?



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Makes sense! More so than someone who has intimate knowledge suddenly deciding to have a conscience.

 

[Sigh Sister]

True enough but the "tip" came in on a national holiday, yesterday was Canada Day. I'm guessing there would be a lot of people in the park and it would make clandestine meetings a bit risky. It would be believable that someone just stumbled upon it if it left out in in the open with many people walking around and someone might have noticed a raunchy smell. But LE stated that the tip was not from a passerby.

Maybe the person saw it before yesterday, and it took some time for them to report it? And the person may have been very vague regarding their tip due to being paranoid about being associated with this "cruising"area?

 

[HastingsChi]

Makes sense! More so than someone who has intimate knowledge suddenly deciding to have a conscience.

I tend to agree but with reservations-- in all our sleuthing we've not been able to point to one individual who in the last 18 months could be identified as a potential friend or acquaintance of Magnotta, this would make the idea of an accomplice hard to accept... However, given No_Stone's brilliant analysis earlier about the specific targets of all things Canada, the discovery occurring on Canada Day gives credence to the idea of someone with intimate knowledge providing the tip...

Color me perplexed.

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[Baudi Moovan]

I tend to agree but with reservations-- in all our sleuthing we've not been able to point to one individual who in the last 18 months could be identified as a potential friend or acquaintance of Magnotta, this would make the idea of an accomplice hard to accept... However, given No_Stone's brilliant analysis earlier about the specific targets of all things Canada, the discovery occurring on Canada Day gives credence to the idea of someone with intimate knowledge providing the tip...

Color me perplexed.

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He absolutely had at least two friends during this time period. Im not trying to be super secret in not revealing who they were, as I cant go into details but I can say with certainty that he did. Ill say this upfront too: I respect your right to disagree or not believe me on this, Id question me about it too.

 

[Mbshafeena]

What if, when on the run, he decided to sent an electronic card, a Canada Day Celebration card, that some sites offer free of charge, and where you can choose what day it is to be delivered. He could have sent this to the Montreal police with a clue to where the head is. He could have sent such a card anytime before he was caught and anonymously.

 

[matou]

He absolutely had at least two friends during this time period. Im not trying to be super secret in not revealing who they were, as I cant go into details but I can say with certainty that he did. Ill say this upfront too: I respect your right to disagree or not believe me on this, Id question me about it too.

I believe it. Someone was taking photos of him around town. I don't think he was living in a bubble, he must have had at least one friend in town.