***GRAPHIC*** The Missing Head

[Mbshafeena]

It could also be someone, female, who remembers seeing someone behaving strangely in the park with a box. It could be as simple as that but it was for sure a female who reported information to the police and this case.

 

[matou]

It could also be someone, female, who remembers seeing someone behaving strangely in the park with a box. It could be as simple as that but it was for sure a female who reported information to the police and this case.

Where are getting that the info came from a female?

 

[Mbshafeena]

The only other thing I can think of is that he travelled by subway, prior to leaving for the airport, took the metro that would take him to this park, disposed of the head, and then took the metro or I understand there are buses from this point and headed directly to the airport. Perhaps this was one of the reasons that the person sitting next to him on the flight to Paris said he smelled bad.

 

[Mbshafeena]

Where are getting that the info came from a female?

Read the article and when talk about the person who gave them the information they use "la" which is female and not "le" .

Oops just read again and "la porte parole" I now see is referring to the female Officer.

 

[Mbshafeena]

You know the way the article is written it could also mean that something in the notes they received with the other body parts could very well be the "information received" and not necessarily information received by an informant.

"«C'est une information reçue par les enquêteurs des crimes majeurs dans le dossier Magnotta qui les a menés au parc Angrignon», a spécifié la porte-parole du Service de police de la Ville de Montréal (SPVM), Anie Lemieux, en ajoutant que l'information n'avait pas été transmise par un passant. Mme Lemieux a indiqué que «c'est quelque chose qui ressemblerait à des restes humains» qui a été retrouvé."

Something in one of the notes alluding to a possible location. We all know how LM liked To play cat and mouse.

 

[prima.facie]

Made front of Yahoo News...

Police think they found head from a victim of actor murderer

TORONTO (AP) — Police found what appears to be a human head in a park in Montreal and are investigating whether it is the missing head of a Chinese student who they say was dismembered by a Canadian actor, an official said Sunday.

http://news.yahoo.com/official-police-think-found-human-head-021823975.html

 

[matou]

It's really sounding like it was a tip.

"A tip led police investigating the killing of Chinese student Jun Lin and the arrest of Luka Rocco Magnotta to a Montreal park Sunday, where remains were discovered near a small lake."

and

"They have not given the source of the tip. "

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...montreal-remains-found-link-magnotta-lin.html

 

[italianWSfan]

It wasn't in water according to the spokesperson.

Just because it wasnt found in the water, doesnt necessarily mean it has never been in the water?
The article says "The head was found on the shore of a lake in Angrignon park"...
IMO:
the head was thrown in the water, and sank. So nobody noticed it, because it was under water. Someday on Saturday or Sunday it was washed ashore - someone noticed it lying there and reported the location af a suspicious item to the police, maybe anonymously (hence the "tip received").
Police were not sure if it is indeed a human head because it was probably a skull by then and they were afraid it would be fake - another Halloween product like the foot that was found in Montreal.

Or did I miss something?

 

[matou]

I guess police need to determine if the head is not part of a hoax like with the foot.

 

[~n/t~]

I guess police need to determine if the head is not part of a hoax like with the foot.

I think we would've heard by now if it's a hoax. The foot was plastic and almost immediately was dismissed as being real.

The question is what was found and if whatever was found is connected to this case.

I hope it is the rest of Jun Lin's remains so his family can finally take him home where he can be laid to rest. :cry:

 

[~n/t~]

Police cruisers remained at a Montreal park on Monday after an object believed to be human remains was found on Canada Day.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/montreal-police-continue-probe-of-possible-remains-1.862166

 

[~n/t~]

I suppose it could be animal remains but I doubt it.

 

[~n/t~]

Parc Angrignon: In Brief


An especially family-friendly park in Montreal, Parc Angrignon is 97 hectares (240 acres) of mildly manicured grounds with over 20,000 trees, including a iris and weeping willow-lined pond. Just a short walk from Angrignon Metro station, the park has a playground and is in close proximity to a farm with 25 animal species, open free to the public. The grounds also include Fort Angrignon, a "fortress" filled with physical challenges involving mazes and rock climbing walls. Ample picnicking facilities are available on site, including barbecues, but you'll have to bring your own matches to light them.

http://montreal.about.com/od/montrealparks/a/parc_angrignon_montreal_parks.htm


If he took the subway, he didn't have to walk very far to get to the park. I still can't imagine someone on the metro carrying remains in a box or suitcase or whatever. It's like one of those horror movies.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

I believe it's Lin Jun's remains because LE have contacted his family about today's discovery. (It's in one of the links here).

I find it odd that LE are not "giving the source of the tip"..... that tells me that LE knows exactly from whom the tip came.

This gets more bizarre by the moment.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Quoted from ~n/t~ above:

If he took the subway, he didn't have to walk very far to get to the park. I still can't imagine someone on the metro carrying remains in a box or suitcase or whatever. It's like one of those horror movies.


But really......would anything this freakin' lunatic did amaze us now? I know, I know......the Montreal Metro is so nice (much nicer than the subway in Toronto) it's just impossible for us to imagine that he'd take it on the Metro. But, we're dealing with a socio/psychopath here. He's really horrific!

:maddening:

 

[CuriousRus]

Just because it wasnt found in the water, doesnt necessarily mean it has never been in the water?
The article says "The head was found on the shore of a lake in Angrignon park"...
IMO:
the head was thrown in the water, and sank. So nobody noticed it, because it was under water. Someday on Saturday or Sunday it was washed ashore - someone noticed it lying there and reported the location af a suspicious item to the police, maybe anonymously (hence the "tip received").
Police were not sure if it is indeed a human head because it was probably a skull by then and they were afraid it would be fake - another Halloween product like the foot that was found in Montreal.

Or did I miss something?

The only thing I question is whether the tip was called in based on someone actually finding the head while at the park or someone just having knowledge of the head (LM's legal team? or someone LM confided in prior to the arrest). Do any of the articles make this clear?

 

[Mbshafeena]

It's really sounding like it was a tip.

"A tip led police investigating the killing of Chinese student Jun Lin and the arrest of Luka Rocco Magnotta to a Montreal park Sunday, where remains were discovered near a small lake."

and

"They have not given the source of the tip. "

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...montreal-remains-found-link-magnotta-lin.html

The tip could
Have come from a person, or something they received which led them to perhaps a location. Those notes could have mentioned a lake, pond, park, we won't know till later what they meant and the language used can be interpreted diferenly from the French version of the story versus the English story.

 

[thedissent]

From a different thread, my thoughts on the possibility that the "tip" came from LRM's legal team:

It's hard to say, but it's not impossible. Since the Homolka / Bernardo video debacle-- where their first lawyer failed to disclose a video of the couples' various crimes-- many law societies "clarified" the ethical obligations of criminal defense lawyers: that such evidence ought to be disclosed, but in a way that also protects the lawyer's client.

One of the ways in which a lawyer can meet his or her obligations-- that is, both the duty to his or her client and the need to disclose evidence to the police-- is to do so anonymously. Thus, the police get the relevant evidence, and there is no obvious link back to the client (the way there would be if the lawyer himself disclosed the evidence).

Qualification: this is merely speculation; I'm only saying that the legal team should not be ruled out. I don't think we'll ever know either way, even if it was one of LRM's lawyers.

 

[Mozzmo]

I agree with others who find the location of the head a bit disjointed from the rest of LM's crime (no pun intended). Maybe the LE are being evasive about the "tip" because they got it from the computer and don't want to let LM know just how much and what kind of info they are getting off his computer at this time. No matter how much incriminating info they have, a confession from LM would be best case scenario in presecuting him. I suppose it could be included in an email or text he sent. That would be a confession IMO. No one but LM would know where the head was put. On the other hand, if LE found searches on LM's computer about the park or how to get there through the public transit system, that could have tipped them off to go and look with the most obvious place to start being the pond.

 

[pannekoek]

If he dumbed the head in the lake thinking it would stay there forever, it makes sence. Then he would have hidden the ‘trophie’ and would be the only one to know where it was. That would give him control/power over us, even when caught he could keep playing his cat and mouse games and feel like a genius. Just like the Moors murderer.