GUILTY Greece - Caroline Crouch, 20, British, tortured and murdered, Athens, 11 May 2021 *Appeal filed 2023* #5

[Estelle]

What is really interesting, is the comment of the lawyer - noncommittal.

But maybe it is the way lawyers talk?

IMO B's lawyer could be feeding these ideas to Menios Fourthiotis to publish in the media to try to alter the public's perception of B's culpability and/or be getting a percentage of what Menios is being paid to submit the articles and/or testing B's new defence ideas to see if they are accepted.

 

[Dotta]

IMO B's lawyer could be feeding these ideas to Menios Fourthiotis to publish in the media to try to alter the public's perception of B's culpability and/or be getting a percentage of what Menios is being paid to submit the articles and/or testing B's new defence ideas to see if they are accepted.

Umm...
Im sorry but it sounds so convulted I cant take it seriously.

I only sent this link b/c I promised to keep in touch with this case's news.

The lawyer is a professional!!
These theories are nonsensical in my opinion.
I hope you understand I say this because it is what I think (I would hate to censor my thoughts).
No offence

 

[Dotta]

Again about the lover

Γλυκά Νερά - Νικολούλη σε Αναγνωστόπουλο: «Να σου φρεσκάρω εγώ τη μνήμη αγόρι μου» (Video)

 

[Estelle]

Again about the lover

Γλυκά Νερά - Νικολούλη σε Αναγνωστόπουλο: «Να σου φρεσκάρω εγώ τη μνήμη αγόρι μου» (Video)

From above link:

Aggeliki Nikolouli launched a direct attack on Babis Anagnostopoulos through her show "Light in the Tunnel" regarding a woman who allegedly had an extramarital affair with B.

"He says he does not know who the woman who spoke on the first show is? Let me tell you who she is. Let me remind him. To refresh his memory a little, who she is, if he listens to us, I do not know if he can hear where he is… Let me refresh your memory, my boy, for who she is, if you forgot her. She is the woman you were desperately looking for, a few days before you killed yours. She is the one who told friends that you are very madly in love with her. She is the one I covered so as not to face any danger. And you were looking for her… If you forgot her I will remind you "said Angeliki Nikolouli.

 

[Estelle]

Umm...
Im sorry but it sounds so convulted I cant take it seriously.

I only sent this link b/c I promised to keep in touch with this case's news.

The lawyer is a professional!!
These theories are nonsensical in my opinion.
I hope you understand I say this because it is what I think (I would hate to censor my thoughts).
No offence

I agree with you but you never know someone's motivation.

 

[Dotta]

From above link:

Aggeliki Nikolouli launched a direct attack on Babis Anagnostopoulos through her show "Light in the Tunnel" regarding a woman who allegedly had an extramarital affair with B.

"He says he does not know who the woman who spoke on the first show is? Let me tell you who she is. Let me remind him. To refresh his memory a little, who she is, if he listens to us, I do not know if he can hear where he is… Let me refresh your memory, my boy, for who she is, if you forgot her. She is the woman you were desperately looking for, a few days before you killed yours. She is the one who told friends that you are very madly in love with her. She is the one I covered so as not to face any danger. And you were looking for her… If you forgot her I will remind you "said Angeliki Nikolouli.

Re: A lover
Im confused - is this "lover" a man or a woman??? They say transgender.
It is too much for me haha
I will stick to what prosecutor says.

 

[Estelle]

Re: A lover
Im confused - is this "lover" a man or a woman??? They say transgender.
It is too much for me haha
I will stick to what prosecutor says.

A transgender woman was mentioned a while back but I assumed that was for kinky goings on but this IMO is a real woman. Aggeliki must have some proof, surely? Otherwise, B's lawyer would be going after her for slander.

We don't really know what the Prosecutor knows except that the media has told us that it is a premeditated crime and also animal abuse, etc. I am curious about what information Menios Fourthiotis has found to be able to publish two articles each weekend about B.

Dotta, please keep posting these articles as I find them fascinating.

 

[Dotta]

A transgender woman was mentioned a while back but I assumed that was for kinky goings on but this IMO is a real woman. Aggeliki must have some proof, surely? Otherwise, B's lawyer would be going after her for slander.

We don't really know what the Prosecutor knows except that the media has told us that it is a premeditated crime and also animal abuse, etc. I am curious about what information Menios Fourthiotis has found to be able to publish two articles each weekend about B.

Dotta, please keep posting these articles as I find them fascinating.

Of course I will.
I always keep my promises

A lawyer of B talks

Δολοφονία Γλυκά Νερά: Τι αποκάλυψε ο δικηγόρος του Μπάμπη Αναγνωστόπουλου για το τρίτο πρόσωπο

 

[Estelle]

Of course I will.
I always keep my promises

A lawyer of B talks

Δολοφονία Γλυκά Νερά: Τι αποκάλυψε ο δικηγόρος του Μπάμπη Αναγνωστόπουλου για το τρίτο πρόσωπο

From above link:

What Babis Anagnostopoulos answers about the third person

The lawyer of Babis Anagnostopoulos, who killed his wife Caroline, at their house in Glyka Nera, described the prosecutor 's proposal as expected . Mr. Alexandros Papaioannidis, speaking on the show "Smile again" pointed out that the indictment mentions facts about things that happened in a previous time. In the court that will take place, "a key issue is at stake, how the situation was triggered", Mr. Papaioannidis noted.

"My client is the one who, if he wants, will refute publications. "As long as there is evidence that can give something to the case, even tomorrow it can be submitted to be evaluated", he commented regarding publications that want the tragic events to have happened in a different way from the one that has become known.


"My client tells me that he did not have any relationship with Caroline during his marriage. He does not even know the woman ", concluded Mr. Papaioannidis, referring to the testimony of a woman brought" to light "by Angeliki Nikolouli.

What do you make of that?

 

[Marg from Oz]

Is that a typo? "He did not have any relationship with Caroline during his marriage!"

 

[Dotta]

Is that a typo? "He did not have any relationship with Caroline during his marriage!"

Didn't have any other relationship during his marriage to Caroline.

 

[Dotta]

Ooops!
Now I remember - F is a journalist who is in prison with B.
He was reported to chase B to give him interview

Γλύκα Νερά: Σάλος με το εξώφυλλο του Φουρθιώτη – «Βράζει» το

 

[Estelle]

Is that a typo? "He did not have any relationship with Caroline during his marriage!"

I am open to believing that B did not have sex with Caroline after B got her pregnant the second time. Didn't C tell the therapist that they were not having sexual relations? Many men stray when a woman is pregnant or breastfeeding as they don't find a woman attractive then. C also said that she did not know where B went every Sunday so was he with this woman then?

 

[Dotta]

I am open to believing that B did not have sex with Caroline after B got her pregnant the second time. Didn't C tell the therapist that they were not having sexual relations? Many men stray when a woman is pregnant or breastfeeding as they don't find a woman attractive then. C also said that she did not know where B went every Sunday so was he with this woman then?

You might be right.
I remember that info that they slept in the same bed but no "fun".

 

[Estelle]

Ooops!
Now I remember - F is a journalist who is in prison with B.
He was reported to chase B to give him interview

Γλύκα Νερά: Σάλος με το εξώφυλλο του Φουρθιώτη – «Βράζει» το

From above link:

Salos with the cover of Fourthiotis - Twitter is "boiling"
Systematic attempt to acquit Anagnostopoulos

The Menios Fourthiotis accused of serious crimes, not only shows no trace of remorse after his release on provisional conditions, but continues to cause justice and the common sense of justice by attempting systematically through the tabloid press to acquit kathomologian killer of Caroline .

Fourthiotis's audacity is such that he uses the same fact of his imprisonment as a way to return to the forefront.

He claims that he met Babis Anagnostopoulos in prison and tries to acquit him, canceling the authorities 'investigation, Anagnostopoulos' own confession, and everyone's intelligence, presenting an unthinkable conspiracy theory.

He does not even hesitate to name another person for the murder in Glyka Nera. An act that, if nothing else, could provoke the intervention of a prosecutor.

Systematic attempt to acquit Anagnostopoulos
This is the second cover in a row that attempts such a thing. The question is whether every Fourthiotis can thus distort the truth about a crime that shocked the whole of Greece, at a time when the Prosecutor handling the case of Glyki Nero has charged Babis Anagnostopoulos with intentional murder in a calm mind. condition.

How far will Fourthiotis go if he re-circulates his pamphlet after his release from prison? How long will he be able to spread slander and lies, appearing as the punisher of the truth, and "acquit" a confessed murderer every week?

However, what is certain is that no matter how hard Fourthiotis tries, he will not be able to convince the people to rely on what he says.

Firstly because it had never been so successful and secondly because today's slump is raising a wave of anger. '

Rage on Twitter
There are many users of social media who "adorn" him regularly for his new achievements.

"Eventually the penal system turns out to have changed yesterday ότι the fact that people like Fourthiotis play a role in social development surpasses me .. as it surpasses me that there are people who support the business activities of… #Fourthiotis"

 

[Dotta]

The surname of baby L might be changed

Γλυκά Νερά: Η οικογένεια της Καρολάιν σκέφτεται να αλλάξει το επώνυμο της μικρής Λυδίας

 

[Estelle]

The surname of baby L might be changed

Γλυκά Νερά: Η οικογένεια της Καρολάιν σκέφτεται να αλλάξει το επώνυμο της μικρής Λυδίας

From above link:

According to information from "Proino", Caroline 's family will initiate the procedure, after the trial takes place and a conviction is issued .

An excellent idea! I wonder how long B's parents will stay in touch with baby L after B is sentenced?

 

[Dotta]

Caroline's family gets tough with B's family:
- removed his name from the diary on the grave (Im not sure what it is, maybe the life story of a dead person),
- stuck only to appointed dates and hours of meetings with the baby,
- and now, the change of the surname.
Good!
Maybe that is why B's father was "psychologically unwell"?
Family names/surnames are very important to Greek men.

 

[Dotta]

Prisoners about B

Family doesnt visit him, only his lawyer

Γλυκά Νερά: Το προφίλ που «κτίζει» εν όψει της δίκης ο Μπάμπης Αναγνωστόπουλος – Αποκαλύψεις από συγκρατούμενό του (Βίντεο) - Timeline

 

[Estelle]

Prisoners about B

Family doesnt visit him, only his lawyer

Γλυκά Νερά: Το προφίλ που «κτίζει» εν όψει της δίκης ο Μπάμπης Αναγνωστόπουλος – Αποκαλύψεις από συγκρατούμενό του (Βίντεο) - Timeline

From the above link:

The daily life of Babis Anagnostopoulos in prisons

Regarding the daily life of the murderer, his inmate states that Babis works in the prison canteen and in general "he is calm, he takes care of some animals we have here, Korydallos has several cats and the rest of the day he is in his cell and studying books he has with him, without knowing what they are ".

He also added that he shows "solidarity" with his inmates in prison.

"He is OK. We have a good relationship and we talk every day, what has impressed me is that he looks very sensitive, that is, he is sensitive with children. Because it happens and I have children and my children send me photos, that is, he sees them, he is good. He is friendly with everyone, he does not quarrel, he enters in case some prisoners misunderstand each other to separate them, but with dialogue. "This is his character, this is how I have described him and this is how he is," he says.

As he added, "he helps his colleagues in here, fine. "A prisoner who may not have a phone card, give him food or whatever he can help."

In fact, his lawyer often visits him, while as he says he has not seen any members of his family.