GUILTY Greece - Caroline Crouch, 20, British, tortured and murdered, Athens, 11 May 2021 *Appeal filed 2023* #5

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So it really bothers him that people think that his killing of Caroline was brutal? Well, I am so sorry - you brute.

Agreed but he also is angry that police think it was premeditated.
 
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Agreed but he also is angry that police think it was premeditated.
He's angry? He's indignant? IMO it doesn't make a whole lot of difference whether it was premeditated or not, it was still a shocking and evil deed. He doesn't feel half as angry and indignant as I do.
 
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He's angry? He's indignant? IMO it doesn't make a whole lot of difference whether it was premeditated or not, it was still a shocking and evil deed. He doesn't feel half as angry and indignant as I do.

It does to the length of time he has to spend in prison.
 
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The establishment of scholarships for students who succeed in entering higher education for the year 2022 was decided by the Social Solidarity and Assistance Network following a proposal by the mayor of Alonissos Petros Vafinis and the journalist Ellis Spyropoulou.

According to a relevant announcement, “last year left behind tragic events that made us wonder if the position of women in the society we live in is such that it allows us to dream of a better tomorrow for our children.

The increased rates of violence and killings did not give hope for this, as public opinion was repeatedly found to be shocked and frozen in the face of criminal behavior.

The story of the undefeated Caroline Crouch, who became a symbol for women who suffer all kinds of abuse and its tragic end, highlighted the need to raise public awareness and the obligation not to let any woman as a society relive such dramatic moments.

The production company Update Entertainment headed by journalist Elli Spyropoulou in collaboration with the Mayor of Alonissos Petros Vafinis raised this issue in the Social Solidarity & Relief Network, and with the full support of the President of the Network Mr. Nikolaos Pentzos to the students who succeed in entering higher education for the year 2022 and which will be covered exclusively by the Network. Scholarships which will be given in memory of Caroline Krauts with the consent of her family and the main goal is not to forget her story.

In the local community of Alonissos where the family and her little daughter live, but also in the whole of Greece in the person of Caroline we recognize the daughter, the sister, the wife, the woman that we could all be in her place.

International Women's Day is the right time for us to announce this initiative with the hope that we can all create the right conditions for a society in which no woman will feel alone, insecure to celebrate every day of her life without fear. ”.

Source: ertnews.gr
 
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The accused is already said to study the case several hours a day, in order to prepare for court, while at the same time working in the prison canteen. Information indicates that he supports a significant part of his defense in a witness that he considers "key" and has the capacity of expert. In addition to the specific witness, the accused's side is expected to summon his parents to testify in court.

" Other aspects of the case will be revealed during the hearing. You will see that the events of that night are better enlightened and some aspects of the case will be explained in a more complete way "says Babis Anagnostopoulos's lawyer, Alexandros Papaioannidis, to Newsbomb.gr.

Legal action in England
Key prosecution witnesses are considered to be the mental health counselor who monitored Caroline and has given several testimonies outlining the couple's relationship, as well as their neighbor, who was called three times to testify.

"Sometimes when I was sitting in the living room of my house, which is a partition with the living room of the couple's house, I happened to hear fights between the couple, not very loud, while during some of the fights I heard Caroline shouting to the accused: "I do not care, I do not care".

In late November and early December 2020, while watching a movie in the living room of my house at night, I heard very loud voices from the couple's house. I turned down the volume on the TV and went up to the attic of my house, because there were louder voices. Indeed, from the couple's house I heard that the couple had a very intense quarrel.

The only thing I could tell from the voices was the phrase Caroline once said: "Not your house, my house." "I remember this incident because it was a more intense quarrel than the couple usually had," the witness said in her testimony, adding that the next morning they behaved normally to each other.

However, the couple's neighbor was also the main character in the documentary on the British channel Channel 5 entitled "Caroline: the Murder That Fooled the World", meaning "The killer who fooled the world". Her descriptions of the phone call she received from Babis Anagnostopoulos on the night of the murder were shocking. "He calls me on my cell phone and I hear Babi, who at that time I did not understand what he was saying to me, as if he was asking for help. But I could not understand what he was telling me. I jump out of bed upset, I wake up my husband. In my panic to get dressed, I hang up the phone. "Then I pick up the phone again, he picks it up and I hear him shouting," she describes to the British network.

The creation and screening of this documentary has displeased the 33-year-old defendant, who claims that he had no information. " From the first moment we are in cooperation with a lawyer in England and the necessary legal actions have already been launched in order to ensure the rights of the accused shortly before his trial in the first instance. He had not received any information about the specific documentary, he never gave approval and here some legal issues are created, since his case has not even been tried "notes Alexandros Papaioannidis.

On the website of Channel 5 , the producer of the documentary, the description of the crime begins: "Watching a seemingly idyllic life and a tragic murder of a woman living in Greece". In addition to the neighbor, journalists appear in it, the retired brigadier general Thanasis Katerinopoulos, but also a number of foreign analysts and experts who try to describe the character of Caroline's confessed murderer.
 
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From above link:

According to a Real News article, during a surprise check carried out by the penitentiary officers in the cell of the 34-year-old, in the Z1 wing, a mobile phone was found, something that is prohibited by the prison regulations.

The device was immediately confiscated, while Anagnostopoulos was summoned for explanations by the judicial council of Korydallos prison. Sources reveal in the newspaper that, when the 34-year-old pilot was asked where he found the mobile phone, he replied that it was given to him by another prisoner.

In other words, he admitted that he had it in his possession. He could not pretend, as he did when he told police and reporters that burglars had killed his 19-year-old wife.

This is because the device was found in his bed. When he noticed the prison officials, he allegedly placed the mobile phone under his pillow, as he did not have time to hide it in another, safer place.





The judicial council of the prisons imposed on B. Anagnostopoulos a penalty of 100 points and deprivation of work for six months for possessing a mobile phone.

Until then, the 34-year-old worked part-time in the prison canteen, which is counted in the sentence. Following the decision of the judicial council, he resigned from his duties, no longer having the opportunity to work either in the canteen or anywhere else in prison.
 
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Good. Not that I suppose he's learnt anything, except to hide things better.
 
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From the above link:
Glyka Nera: The five witnesses who will defend Babis Anagnostopoulos

The pilot will portray Caroline as a violent and narcissistic figure

The countdown for the trial of Babis Anagnostopoulos has begun, since on April 8, the first court for the crime in Glyka Nera will take place. Defendant will claim that Caroline's murder took place in the heat of the moment and that it was not premeditated. The pilot will sit on the bench accused of the offences of intentional homicide, animal abuse, perjury and perjury.

From the civil lawsuit the witnesses amount to 14, while from the defence side the witnesses are 5. Among them will be scientists, a medical examiner and a psychiatrist, who will try to convince that the crime was committed due to the quarrels that took place. existed among themselves. According to information, the defence will try to present the undefeated woman as a violent and narcissistic personality.

"The psychologist had said that my wife was suffering from a narcissistic disorder with some evidence of depression. "This characteristic of my wife has resulted in abrupt and happy times of our lives having sudden outbursts of rage and anger over insignificant issues, while these outbursts lasted two to three hours and left as quickly as they appeared," he said, among other things. pilot in his apology.

The 34-year-old's defensive line will be based on the diary kept by Caroline, which records incidents from her married life.

"However, there is a lot of evidence in the case file, even from the notebook, which I think reveals things. "These have been said at the notebook level, but I do not want to be positioned, in 10 days the trial is over", said Alexandros Papaioannidis, lawyer of the 34-year-old pilot. Relatives, friends and acquaintances of Caroline are outraged by what is being said about her allegedly violent nature.

"In no case. A simple, good child. Caroline that was it. A simple girl, a good kid, a golden character, that. "For all of us who knew her, whether from the position of a teacher, or from the position of friends, or from the position of classmates, we all have the same image", said her teacher. A key point in the 34-year-old's defensive line is to be able to prove that Caroline's murder took place in the heat of the moment due to the quarrels that existed between them and were not premeditated. The other three people are from the pilot environment and will talk not about the fateful night, but about the relationship he had with Caroline.

Babis Anagnostopoulos's lawyer, Alexandros Papaioannidis, stressed: "I think it will be a very difficult trial as the case has developed. It is multifaceted and has to highlight things during the evidentiary process. "Whether these will lead the judges to a conclusion, in order to assess the situation of my client differently, we will see".
 
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I wonder if British Press will cover the trial?
I count on you DMail!
 
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IMO the British media will cover the trial perhaps on twitter.
 
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So now he's the poor victim of a narcissist. What will he think of next?
 
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Greek pilot accused of killing British wife also charged with murdering their puppy under Greek law | Daily Mail Online


A Greek pilot who killed his British wife while she slept has also been charged with murdering her dog as part of an elaborate ruse to make it appear that she had been killed in a botched burglary, MailOnline can reveal.

Babis Anagnostopoulos, 33 will appear before an Athens court on Friday where he stands accused of murdering Caroline Crouch, 20 and two counts of perverting the course of justice.

Following legal wranglings, he has also specifically been charged with murdering her beloved five-month-old pup called Roxy, after initially being charged with animal cruelty.

The animal murder charge was made possible following a new law introduced last year that forbids their unlawful killing.

Friday's trial will be the first time that the Greek legal system will hear a case of animal murder.

Evangelia Tsanopoulou, Roxy's lawyer told MailOnline that she would argue for Anagnostopoulos to be given a maximum ten-year sentence for killing the puppy in addition to any sentence he may receive for the murder of his wife.
 
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But I guess the sentence for Animal cruelty will run concurrently.
 
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From the above link:

Glyka Nera: Eleni Mylonopoulou reveals what Caroline secretly confided to her from Babis
"Caroline was very scared at the last hearing," recalls the Mental Health Counselor, who will be found as a prosecution witness in front of the confessed murderer at trial.
At 00:36 - April 6, 2022
A few days before the long-running trial of Babis Anagnostopoulos for the murder of Caroline Krauts's young wife, the Mental Health Counselor, Eleni Mylonopoulou, whom the couple visited in recent months, breaks her silence.

The main prosecution witness in the Freshwater case, who is expected to cross the threshold of the court on Friday, April 8, to testify what he knew about the pilot and his 20-year-old wife, reveals to "protothema.gr" important and unknown aspects of the case. : from the role she was called to play in the Homicide Department, giving secret details of the case that were not recorded in her statements, to the "mystery on Sundays", which essentially led to a crisis between the couple, the pressure exerted by the pilot on the young wife to get pregnant again after the miscarriage, but also the threats she received all the time that Babis Anagnostopoulos was free, pretending to be a crippled husband.

Mrs. Mylonopoulou, without hesitation, mentions what will happen when she is confronted with the confessed murderer of Caroline. "I will look him in the eyes, but will he dare to look at me? "All I want him to answer is why and with what right."


"Sick relationship"
According to her, she met the couple on November 17, 2020. Then they visited her for the first time "and the sessions ended at the end of January. "From the first visit," she stressed, "it seemed that the couple had an unhealthy relationship. Because when they both came, Anagnostopoulos took the floor to explain the purpose of the visit, at the same time that Caroline was not talking at all. She only spoke when we were alone. "

And adds features:

"Anagnostopoulos was trying to convince me how happy he was and that the only problem was a 'little maternity depression'. He showed me photos from the wedding, told me how they met, a fairy tale. He tried to put me in the bubble that Caroline had placed.

When I told him to leave us alone to see what Caroline wanted to tell me, her first conversation was: 'I want to leave the house. I do not want him, I want to take my child and leave. I'm looking for a house. I had searched again in Chalandri, now I want to look for a house in Syntagma '. 'Why in the Constitution?', I asked her. 'Because I want to go to a pastry school'.

'Who will help you financially?'. 'My mom sends me, but now what she sends me, Babis takes. When I leave, I will take them '. "Have you notified anyone of yours about everything you tell me?" 'No, I do not want to warn'. 'Why don't you tell your mother?' 'Because I do not want to tell her, to put her in this situation'. "Can you do it alone?" 'Yes I can. I will try'. And then, she started crying. "She cried for a long time."

"'When does this story start?', I asked her, to tell me: 'After my first miscarriage'. 'Why did you get pregnant so quickly?' 'Not my fault. "But since the child was born, I want to leave." Is it because you experienced a trouble with the child's problems? From the surgeries? '. 'No. "I want to leave, because I can no longer bear this man."

Why the sessions stopped - The pressure to get pregnant
As Mrs. Mylonopoulou explains, "Caroline had started to open up to me a lot and had reached very delicate personal issues. "It was then that I suddenly received a message that we were stopping the sessions."

For Anagnostopoulos, he states that he told her "that it was Caroline's wish. There was something strange about this couple: I could never contact Caroline directly. She never answered the phone. Neither Caroline nor Babi. "They had to see the calls and after an hour Babis would pick me up from his phone."

When the pilot spoke to her, he admitted "that Caroline did not want him. That they were no longer related to each other. And that was a real picture, because I had heard it from Caroline, but nevertheless, Caroline herself confessed to me that they slept together. That he slept in his arms, that he leaned on his chest when he lay down. And to calm things down, I told him: 'Calm down, you are 32 years old, she is 20, you have to take a step back and show understanding'. There I even asked him: 'Why did you push her so much after the miscarriage and she got pregnant?'. I did not get any answer. "

Analyzing the reasons that led Babi to push the 20-year-old to get pregnant again, she underlines: "A man who always wants to manipulate his partner creates commitments. She was isolated, she did not have money on her and that is why Babis took her everywhere. Under the pretext that 'he had the responsibility of the child'.

So when Caroline starts telling me that she no longer wants Babi, that she wants to take her child and leave, that it annoys her and makes her life difficult, she is isolated, if she wants to go with a friend she has to follow and Babis, to go with him, his friend's taxi and all that, there begins to unfold another tangle of their lives and there they say: 'I fell in love with him, but now I hate him. I am in love with the face, with the appearance, but I hate the man, his character. I hate the man I live with '. "Caroline had reached that point."

Sundays
According to Eleni Mylonopoulou, Caroline complained to her about the fact that Babis now started working on Sundays as well.

"He told me that he also started working on Sundays. That one Sunday they were going to spend together and he would help her with the baby and he left, because he had clients who would take them somewhere. In fact, when he told me that, I was surprised. But Caroline was an inexperienced, sensitive, and honest child. So, unfortunately, everything we said in our sessions, a few days or hours later - after a disagreement with Babi - said it all to Babi. And so, her husband knew what Caroline had said to me and what advice I had given her. "Caroline was not jealous of him."

The agreement with the Police
As for her agreement with the Police, the Mental Health Counselor notes:

"I was called from Homicide, because my card was found, as I was told, in Caroline's belongings. I told them that if I said what I knew, I was in danger because I was putting her husband in the frame. I was afraid. He was free and I did not know what could happen. And my lawyer, Mrs. Stamatia Markou, advised me to ask for the protection of the police, that I would tell them what I know, but not to register my testimony as I will testify.

I went and gave a very detailed account of what I experienced with the couple, I mentioned that Caroline from the first moment wanted to leave, that he was manipulating her, that she had a problem in her marriage, that she did not want him ".
 
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