Greece - Caroline Crouch, 20, Murdered, Athens, 11 May 2021 #2 *ARREST*

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  • #141
I think that too much importance is being assigned to the therapist. IMO
 
  • #142
I think that too much importance is being assigned to the therapist. IMO
You’re probably right. Nothing she’s said is relevant to solving the murder case.
I think it’s just from shock seeing a therapist reveal intimate details of a client’s sessions in TV interviews, and during a murder investigation, I can’t remember ever seeing this happen before.
Then there’s the added sensationalism of hypnotism.
 
  • #143
I think that too much importance is being assigned to the therapist. IMO
This importance was given by police saying "this person's revelations will be the real twist'. So I think that according to police: C said sth about the money to sb, then the robbery happened, she was murdered because she saw or knew the perpetrators. That's what I understood the police's view is.
 
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I would be horrified to know that someone I was seeing in a professional presumably confidential counseling environment was blabbing about me to the media,no matter the circumstances. I find it equally disturbing that the police are apparently okay about it.

Unless this is all some sort of master plan to solve the case, but I am not getting the sense that is the case.

All MOO
 
  • #145
I would be even more horrified if I knew that foreign violent gangs were overtaking my country and police had no clue how to solve this matter.
 
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You’re probably right. Nothing she’s said is relevant to solving the murder case.
I think it’s just from shock seeing a therapist reveal intimate details of a client’s sessions in TV interviews, and during a murder investigation, I can’t remember ever seeing this happen before.
Then there’s the added sensationalism of hypnotism.
she shouldn't be allowed to work again..another example of making use of someone tragic death yikes
 
  • #149
Welcome to Ws Spyros, thanks for chiming in!
Looking forward to reading your article when one of our sharp and helpful posters translates it!
My phone translates it when I open the link:)
 
  • #150
Hello! My name is Spyros Avgerinopoulos and i just wrote in greek an article about the supposed "psychologist" of Caroline Crouch. Προβληματισμοί για το πτυχίο της ΄΄ψυχολόγου΄΄ της Καρολάιν - Αποδόμησε τώρα

Thanks for the hard work and attention to detail, Spyros. Although I used a terrible online translation, I got the gist of the article, which validates many of us here who suspected EM wasn't a professional. Now the question is, did her clients know, and how did this play into C's case? ETA: Oh, she is not a credible witness after all! ...Will the Greek authorities be investigating her for fraud? Guess that'll be for another thread!
 
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  • #151
Thanks for the hard work and attention to detail, Spyros. Although I used a terrible online translation, I got the gist of the article, which validates many of us here who suspected EM wasn't a professional. Now the question is, did her clients know, and how did this play into C's case? Will the Greek authorities be investigating her for fraud? Guess that'll be for another thread!
Dont complain about online translator :) It's our helpline!
 
  • #152
Dont complain about online translator :) It's our helpline!

You are right, Dotta, (I'd lose my mind if those auto translations didn't exist) but it misses those subtle nuances that only native/fluent speakers can provide.
 
  • #153
You are right, Dotta, (I'd lose my mind if those auto translations didn't exist) but it misses those subtle nuances that only native/fluent speakers can provide.
I understand you but I salute those smart smart people whose efforts made the world open for us all. It is like a miracle to me:)
 
  • #154
Thanks for the hard work and attention to detail, Spyros. Although I used a terrible online translation, I got the gist of the article, which validates many of us here who suspected EM wasn't a professional. Now the question is, did her clients know, and how did this play into C's case? ETA: Oh, she is not a credible witness after all! ...Will the Greek authorities be investigating her for fraud? Guess that'll be for another thread!

Thank you tayaway! I wish i could translate it to you, but I don't have enough time (I'm preparing my Thesis for my Master in Byzantine Archeology).
 
  • #155
The Toc: After the governing body of Greek psychologists made a complaint against EM for allegedly presenting herself as a psychologist/psychiatrist/obstetrician/gynecologist/whatever, the LE working on Caroline's case started investigating EM!
 
  • #156
I hope phone records of C and B were checked, the same with all Google searches and all money trails. A pity police dogs weren't used.
 
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The Toc: After the governing body of Greek psychologists made a complaint against EM for allegedly presenting herself as a psychologist/psychiatrist/obstetrician/gynecologist/whatever, the LE working on Caroline's case started investigating EM!
My weirdness meter has just broken down!
 
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  • #158
Would anyone have expected details of the jewellery stolen to be released by the police? It sounds as if it could have been some exclusive perhaps antique pieces at that value, and quite unusual for a young couple, unless they were inherited items. (£21,500)
 
  • #159
From Ta Nea Greek newspaper today "The only thing the police found was the pilot's fingerprints on the insulating tape, since - as he allegedly claimed in his testimony - he gave it to the perpetrators to tie him up, under the threat of a gun, as they did not have him with him".
 
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From Ta Nea Greek newspaper today "The only thing the police found was the pilot's fingerprints on the insulating tape, since - as he allegedly claimed in his testimony - he gave it to the perpetrators to tie him up, under the threat of a gun, as they did not have him with him".
Apologies for the poor online translation!
 
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